Comments on: Gay foes rally in Madrid

By: SteveMD2

SteveMD2 — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:50:37 +0000

Lets get this out of the religious arena. The church is just a master psychologist, who trap people with guilt, threats of hell, and promises of their scam insurance policy of life after death. They are almost totally corrupt in the hierarchy, even though there are good priests at the local levels, whose choice is do as we say or out you go.

And the church rivals hitler in the number of deaths it has caused. From the tens of thousands tortured / murdered for challenging the pope during the inquisition, the million women burned as witches in an orgy of church male domination over females, to creating the hatred of the Jews that gave hitler the lever to gain total control and give the world 50 million deaths in wwii.

And lets remember that over 600 years, the church combined with corrupt kings to murder tens of millions of Muslims during the crusades. All in the name of God (Infidel is actually a word from the church that got adopted by Muslims), but really to steal the wealth of the advanced Muslim civilization of its time.

And I hope you realize that societies have long memories. The church’s devastation of that society gets remembered in the culture and language. And really, it was the the church, that laid the groundwork a thousand years ago for what gave us 9/11.

And yes, if you see how hard it is to get eg blindly following religious people to change their mind on gay marriage, you understand the mental state of the Pope, who grew up in Nazi Germany.

And to the good catholics, I can only say that I don’t hate you at all. I have compassion for you that many of you are trapped in the brainwashing of the church. And as many of my gay friends who were Catholic say, it took 10 years to finally break free of the hooks in the mind implanted by the fascists of Rome.

By: roger ramjet

roger ramjet — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:50:50 +0000

Drewski; you are 100% correct in your comments. The church hasn’t given up it’s dream of world wide power – restored. They have just waited for about 200 years as secular society, in their hope, ran it’s course.

The secret of California’s victory of Prop 8 is that the Vatican AND the Mormons poured money into the battle, but the Mormons agreed to ‘take the hit’ press-wise.

Benedict is a Nazi. As was IG FARBEN gas-salesman Johnn-Paul II. The Vatican has been overrun with religious facists ever since the Vatican’s concession to the Nazis in WWII.

Fortunately for us, more people – straight and gay – show up for Pride in Madrid than the vatican was able to muster for their hate-fest.

By: drewski

drewski — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:19:08 +0000

This wasn’t a homegrown protest. It was orchestrated by the Vatican. There are people who are scared by recession and uncertainty and they want to be reassured–but given the last 500 years of Iberian history, neither security nor reassurance are things that the Vatican really cares about. This rally is another manifestation of Benedict’s desire to reassert Church power in secular affairs across the planet. Since the Vatican has taken recent steps to nullify parts of the Lateran Treaties, this is less about a single “faith-based” protest in Madrid, and more about the Catholic Church edging closer to being considered an agent of destabilization in sovereign states. Notice that you don’t see such protests in France, which is just as culturally Catholic as Spain, because France has 220 years’ experience at limiting Church authority. This is a very dangerous game for Benedict to be playing.

By: Bud Burgoon-Clark

Bud Burgoon-Clark — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:09:45 +0000

When shall we see a Mass for the victims of paedophilia?

Or when shall we see a Requiem Mass for the hundreds of thousands of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual and non-Catholic persons MURDERED at the behest of the pope and the “teaching magisterium” of the Roman Catholic “church” over the centuries?

“Morally bankrupt” is the KINDEST thing one can say about the homophobic THUGS in the Vatican.

Bud Burgoon-Clark
San Diego CA USA

By: ABQkevin

ABQkevin — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:33:25 +0000

Despite this large crowd of hateful Catholics rallying in Madrid, opinion polls continue to show that a majority of Spaniards support marriage equality laws in their country. The Vatican is becoming increasingly marginalized and rejected as a morally-bankrupt institution.