Gay Chinese stand up to police sweep of hangout
09.14.2009 3:40pm EDT
(Guangzhou, China) When the police descend on People’s Park and shoo away the gay men gathered there, the men usually scatter to avoid trouble. But recently, about 50 or so confronted five officers who began a sweep and finally forced a police retreat after a heated but nonviolent standoff.
“I told them they might not like us, but they can’t stop us from coming here,” said AIDS activist Xiao Mu, who was handing out condoms and pamphlets about safe sex when the police arrived on Aug. 25. “We have a right to be in the park.”Though mostly ignored by state-run media, news of the incident in the southern city of Guangzhou – also known as Canton – spread quickly on the Internet and became a hot topic in gay chat forums nationwide. Some in China’s gay community see it as a sign of a new sense of empowerment and a burgeoning awareness of their rights.
Members of the community have had minor confrontations with the authorities before in other cities. But usually the disputes play out in a low-key way, without much resistance to sweeps, said Lu Jun, founder of a Beijing-based group that fights discrimination against people with hepatitis B.
“I’ve never heard of something like this happening anywhere else,” Lu said about the Guangzhou incident. “I think what happened marks great progress for homosexuals.”
Gay activist Dao Dao in Shanghai also applauded those in Guangzhou for standing up for their rights. But he said he doubted it was the right long-term strategy. He favors striving for wider acceptance by being model citizens, rather than being outspoken and confrontational.
“We don’t do any harm to the society. I think that’s the best way to show all the people that we are good people and nothing different,” said Dao Dao, who works in finance and also helps organize gay parties, sporting events and other activities.
Gay rights have come a long way since the years just after the 1949 communist revolution when homosexuality was considered a disease from the decadent West and feudal societies, and gay people were persecuted. China waited until 1997 to decriminalize sodomy. Homosexuality was finally removed from the official list of mental disorders in 2001. But still, there are no widely accepted estimates of the number of gay people in China.
This year has already been an eventful one for gay rights. In June, the first gay pride festival was held in Shanghai, the nation’s commercial capital. Later in the month, the five-day Beijing Queer Film Festival was held – an event that police blocked in 2001 and 2005.
But as those cities showed signs of being more tolerant, Guangzhou authorities were starting to crack down in People’s Park – a shady oasis of trees and gazebos in the middle of the muggy, traffic-congested city. The park is popular with youngsters who play badminton or retirees practicing their ballroom-dancing moves to stereos blasting out tunes like “Sukiyaki,” the Japanese ballad that became a hit in the U.S. in the 1960s.
For years, the park has also been a favorite hangout for gay men, especially among the young or working-class who can’t afford the bars and restaurants around town that cater to the community. The men – many dressed in tank tops and tight jeans – stroll around the park or sit together on a long line of stone benches. Nearby is a public restroom, where some men have sex – a source of much of the friction with the police.
On Aug, 25, the police moved in. “They told us, ‘You just leave and don’t come back. This is People’s Park, not Homosexual Park,’” said Xiao, the AIDS activist, who is a short and thin and wears large black-framed glasses. “That made me extremely mad. He was saying gays aren’t human.”
Xiao said several men quietly walked away, but he stood his ground and people gathered around as he argued with police. Some who left wandered back after a few minutes, and Xiao estimated the crowd swelled to about 100 people, including several heterosexual passers-by who supported him.
The police declined to be interviewed. An officer at the front desk of the neighborhood’s main police station grew agitated when asked about the incident, and with a loud voice he ordered an Associated Press reporter to leave the station.
A park policeman, who declined to give his name because he’s not authorized to speak to the media, denied the police were unfair or discriminating against gays.
“The problem is that they do things in the public bathroom. Some of them will grope each other on the park benches,” the policeman said. “People see them doing these things and it makes them feel uncomfortable. Then they call the police.”
The officer added that those who have been asked to leave the park or have been taken to the station for questioning are repeat offenders who constantly cause trouble.
But gay activist Ah Qiang disagrees with the police. He said in March police started rounding up random groups of men in the park. They were marched to the police station where they would be forced to write a statement about their activities before being released without being charged, he said.
Police often called the men “gay lao” or “ji lao” – a pejorative term in the local Cantonese dialect, he said.
However, the activist acknowledged that some people do misbehave in public. But he added, “The police should deal with individual cases. They shouldn’t punish a whole group of people.”
There’s a deep division within the gay community about who is to blame.
Shi Heng, a gay hotel worker who hangs out at the park, found himself in the middle of a fierce debate with younger men during a recent afternoon when he insisted that the cause of the trouble is the men who have sex in the restrooms.
“People are being too crude. We simply can’t behave like this in a public place,” said the 47-year-old man.
But another man in his 20s disagreed with Shi and said young men like him had few options.
“We can’t afford to rent a room, and many of us live with our parents,” said the man, who declined to be named because he feared it would cause trouble at home and work. “Where are we supposed to have sex?”




Public sex isn’t socially acceptable unless society accepts it. In Cleveland, we had a period where the Metroparks rangers would give one or more warnings to boy-girl couples–but they’d straight-up roust two guys gettin’ together. Matter of record.
China’s come a very long way in a very short time. I like to think that China’s going to be a lot more “Western” on civil rights in the long term than any Western country is willing to acknowledge. (Maybe we’re afraid to admit Chinese people have same lust we do?) These men in the park in Guangzhou–they’re the same as young guys like the ones in mills in 1890’s Pittsburgh, or stockyards in 1920’s Omaha, or even on fishing boats today in Alaskan waters. Yeah, it is mostly male. It’s primal and human and it makes humans vulnerable. In these crappy economic times, it’s easy to forget that the person making toys or spatulas we used to make might not be a damn bit different than a lot of us(and if you happen to be more intellectual, don’t be so self-absorbed to think you aren’t included in this).
Morgan, I’m not advocating public sex. In the US and other rich countries, I think it’s a repulsive gay conceit. When you have social acceptance, even partial, spend your damn money and don’t give the people what they don’t want. In other circumstances, sex in a park may be the only option available. That’s how it was in the US, for many people, in 1950 or 1960. There’s very little excuse now. But Morgan, I would ask you to consider that some people are more sexually driven than others; some men go more than once a night, let alone per week. Some men are more sexually potent at 40–maybe 50–than 20 (and yes, I’m talking about 2,3 or more times per day, full mast with no rings or chemicals). Not an average, but a reality. And it’s a more telling reality among gay men because we’re men seeking men. No, not many excuses at all I can see for putting that on view in US, but I gotta say that a Chinese man who can keep it up while under police scrutiny is a man I might oughta respect. Doesn’t “gay” as an identity still come down to sexual attraction over choice in wallpaper patterns?
While sex in public may be distasteful to some, the reality is that because we gays lack social acceptability, sometimes we have no private options available. Like the person in the article said, most of them are too poor to rent a room and have living situations where if they are found out there could be serious consequences. What are we supposed to tell these people? Don’t have sex at all? I think that’s unconscionably cruel. That’s almost the same as asking these people to simply deny who they are, stay in the closet for good, and have no contact with other gay people whatsoever. Don’t blame these people for doing all they can do in the circumstances that they are constrained by just because you feel that it’s distasteful. Gays get persecuted enough by the cruel tyrannical heteronormative homophobic government, especially in places like this, we should be supporting them and demanding equality, not admonishing our own people (yes, even foreign gays are, or should be, included in our fight) for doing one of the only things available for them to do. Culturally enforced celibacy is a cruel and hateful punishment that we should not allow. If there was a space for gays in China to be themselves, there wouldn’t be a need for anyone to have sex in public restrooms. Attack the root of the problem if you want to see change, don’t just judge them because you don’t like it.
When I use a restroom, I expect to peacefully use it without being hit upon.
Anyone bothering for me for sex in a public restroom, I will tell him to go away and to let me pee in peace.
Young boys also use the bathrooms and and their parents don’t need to worry about their children seeing stuff that belongs in a private bedroom behind closed shades and not in a public toilet area.
I am quiet able to wait until a committed relationship to have sex. The longer I go without it, the less interested I am in it. I find life more peaceful and serene without being anxious for sex and for lots of it. It is refreshing to break free of this addiction, and this idea that you can’t live without it.
I am willing for sex with someone I can love and treasure, rather than be a fleeting playtoy for someone to find, feel and to forget.
I think DaveW, you are trying to persuade gay men into staying on a sexual addiction merry-go-round by feeling that they can’t live and be happy unless they are constantly feeding a sexual appetite. That is a type of brainwashing in itself, that as men they are supposed to be perpetually hunting for sex and can’t be happy unless they constantly have it. I am glad that I was able leave the merry-go-round of sexual addiction. I feel more in control of my life and I am willing to date a nice man on a nice evening in a nice restaurant over desperate for sex Larry Craig-like moves in a public toilet. I may have found such a nice man on a ocean beach recently taking time to talk and to get to know someone.
I would rather take the time to talk to someone and to get to know him while at the beach and then at dinner. To get to be a part of another man’s life and part of his.
Sorry, DaveW but sexual addiction and having nothing more that find him, feel him, use him and then throw him away isn’t working for a lot of men.
It is very impressive to read of Chinese gays standing up to police.The government seems a bit more conscious of the opinions of democratic societies lately , also.But the thing that really struck me was the fact that China has such an enormous population. Imagine how many LGBT citizens they must have. I can’t wait to hear future rumors about Mao , Deng , and , ….the Gang of Four would make a great (sort of) name for a Beijing nightclub.
I’ve been away for a week, and in reviewing the news I missed there is a disturbing trend. Here we have gays advocating to act normal and not cause trouble while in the Southern Decadence piece we witness discussion of growing up, acting more adult, and having less sex.
When is sex juvenile? I know people are uncomfortable and this just reminds me that we have a big issue to confront: sex is taboo and our sex is just to much for the simple minded religiously brainwashed that represent the opinion makers of society.
think about it: straights are afraid of sex! masturbation gives you pimples, your priest must be celibate, in some religions women must be covered else they invite sexual attack. Sex is original sin in our society!
How can we expect to win acceptance (a goal I detest…I shouldn’t have to care what people think, but since in this crazy country we vote on rights, I have to)….if the people we need acceptance from don’t accept their own sexuality.
I am not religious and I see our sexuality as a natural, evolution provided characteristic that we ignore at our peril. Look at what happens to children when we repress sexuality. Look at what happens to families when we deny youthful sex and wait…only to be dissapointed…for marriage.
We are made to have sex and lots of it. I wish we didn’t live in a society that is ashamed of that.
For if we were not the solution to this park and cruising issues nationwide is to set up fee based cruising parks. Pay a buck to the city parks commission and go inside and play ’til your heart’s content.
What is the big deal? It is how we are wired.
But no, in Maine the answer is to close all highway rest areas…all of them….to the detriment of travelers that actually want to use the bathroom to pee.