Frank not on board with DOMA bill
(Washington) A bill seeking to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was introduced today but this “top priority” for the community is already relegated to a legislative obscurity and inaction for this session and, perhaps, beyond, says U.S. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.).
The bill, introduced by U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), a long-time supporter of equal rights for gays, has essentially no chance for a hearing or vote during this session of Congress, according to Frank. It is the last of eight bills of specific interest to the LGBT community to be introduced to this session of Congress, which is nearing the end of the first of its two years. And Frank, the de facto leader on LGBT-related measures in Congress, says four other bills come first.“We have pending four major pieces of [LGBT] legislation which have a serious chance to pass,” said Frank Monday in a phone interview. Those, he noted, are the Matthew Shepard hate crimes bill, attached to a bill authorizing defense spending; the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA); a bill to give equal benefits to the partners of gay federal employees as provided to straight spouses; and a bill to repeal the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.
The Nadler bill, said Frank, “has zero chance of passage, even out of committee. It’s a mistake.”
Frank’s problem with the bill isn’t just its timing on a crowded and unusually urgent Congressional calendar monopolized by health care reform, financial regulation reform, appropriations bills, and the other LGBT legislation.
“It’s a very controversial form” of the bill, he said.
Nadler’s bill, the “Respect for Marriage Act,” (ROMA) is a simple two-page measure, seeking to do two things:
· repeal both sections of DOMA –Section 2, which says no state can be “required” to recognize the marriage of a same-sex couple licensed in another state, and Section 3, which limits the interpretation of “marriage” for any federal purpose to only heterosexual couples; and,
· add language that says “for the purposes of any Federal law in which marital status is a factor, an individual shall be considered married if that individual’s marriage is valid in the State where the marriage was entered into or, in the case of a marriage entered into outside any State, if the marriage is valid in the place where entered into and the marriage could have been entered into in a State.”
Frank says the latter clause abandons the strategy of “dealing with marriage state by state.” If a same-sex couple obtains a marriage license in Massachusetts and moves to California, the federal government would recognize their marriage in California.
Evan Wolfson, executive director of the national Freedom to Marry organization, helped write that latter provision, which has been dubbed the “certainty clause.”
“It’s called the ‘certainty clause,’” said Wolfson, in a phone interview after the press conference, “because it establishes certainty that your federal protections and responsibilities will remain with you no matter where you travel” as a same-sex married couple. “The federal government will have a consistent approach. And it’s not telling states what to do,” says Wolfson.
Frank concedes that it’s “a desirable goal,” but says, “we’re not remotely close to achieving it and it’s unwise politically.” For that reason, said Frank, he’s not one of the bill’s current 90 co-sponsors.
But doesn’t Frank’s refusal to co-sponsor the bill, even as a starting point for discussion, essentially kill the bill before it’s out of the chute?
“It does send a message that it’s a bad idea,” says Frank. “But I want to send a message.”
Top priority for community
While the Nadler bill doesn’t have Frank’s support, it does have the co-sponsorship of two of Congress’ other openly gay members – Reps. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.) and Jared Polis (D-Colo.).
Joining Nadler and others at Tuesday’s press conference were some of the movement’s biggest leaders –Wolfson; Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign; Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force; Kevin Cathcart, executive director of Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund; and Shannon Minter, legal director for the National Center for Lesbian Rights.
HRC’s website says its communications with the LGBT community around the country indicates repealing DOMA is “a top priority.” Some 50,000 people responded to the organization’s request for examples of how DOMA affects them negatively.
“We’re in this for the long haul,” said Solmonese, in a phone interview following Tuesday’s press conference. “This is a long term strategy.” He seems untroubled by Frank’s withholding of support.
“We have a difference of opinion about tactics,” said Solmonese.
Perhaps, but Frank likens Nadler’s bill to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome’s decision, in February 2004, to direct city officials to start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples even though a state law prohibited it.
“It’s an effort to make people in the community happy,” said Frank. “That’s not our job. We owe people our judgment.”
Some political observers have blamed Newsome’s tactic as off-putting and responsible for at least some of the vote to approve Proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage, in California last November.
Frank says he thinks “the way we’ll win” repeal of DOMA is through the lawsuit filed by GLAD against Section 3 of the law.
Noticeably absent was the Massachusetts-based legal organization that has been leading the charge for same-sex marriage rights and against DOMA –the Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders. But Carisa Cunningham, a spokesperson for GLAD, said the organization supports the bill.
“We just didn’t have anyone who could make it to Washington today,” said Cunningham.
And Nadler defends ROMA: “Mr. Frank knows better than anyone that our opponents will falsely claim that any DOMA repeal bill ‘exports marriage’ in an effort to generate fear and misunderstanding. But the dishonest tactics of our opponents should not stop us from aggressively pushing to end this horrific discrimination now, as is the consensus of the nation’s top LGBT groups who all support this approach.”
Nadler says his bill “does not tell any state who it must marry or what marriage it must recognize under state law.”
“Our bill,” says Nadler, “allows states to continue deciding those questions, while ensuring uniform access to critically important federal responsibilities and rights that hinge on marriage and upon which all married couples should be able to rely.”
© 2009 Keen News Service





I commend Jerry Nadler’s courage and those who support this move, but my gut feeling is, it won’t pass, in fact it could back fire amid the health care and economic crises and lose support among straight moderates, unless of course a miracle occurs.
Barney Frank is the Chairman of the Committee on Financial Services, which puts him in a rather unique position to fight for/against any sort of legislation which is based on non-financial grounds. I, for one, do not see his reticence in this matter as opposition, but as reasonable criticism.
It’s scary to me to see how many commentors here keep poo-pooing hate-crime and non-discrimination legislation in comparison to DOMA and DADT. I have some very serious questions for all GLBT people: do you think there will NOT be a backlash from that portion of the population that actively wants to restrict GLBT rights if marriage and military service are suddenly opened up for everyone? What protections will be in place for GLBT citizens once measures like DOMA and DADT are repealed? There’s a form of order to this legislation, and Barney Frank seems to be in a minority of people who understand this concept.
And I’m sorry, but that poster who puts tax credits higher on the list of necessities than legal protections from hate and discrimination really needs to step back and take a few moments to prioritize. What good is money if you’re in no shape to use it? Or if you’re effing dead…
Every year it is the same thing. Regsrdless of the issue, if there are votes out here the promise to change the laws or pass new ones. But look at the state of things. They say they are on our side but its one step forward and two steps back. I don’t think this fat old fag will live to see our family equal in the eyes of the general public.
In Barney I trust. He knows what he’s doing, and he cares. The disagreements come in because he’s a pragmatist.
If we can get the four major bills passed this year, I’d consider it a good year. In particular, I want ENDA (check out the article on this site about Ohio dragging its feet on their ENDA as a reason why we need a national law).
We can fight DOMA next year.
Also, how often do we *say* we want politicians who will be leaders, in that they will say and do the right thing even when it’s difficult? Barney’s very, VERY bright. He knows what would have played well both within the gay community and within his district: clearly that would have been taking on DOMA. (Locally, Martha Coakley took on DOMA, in large part, I think, to throw a bone to the gay community so that we’d support her upcoming run for the Senate, even though her case has 0 chance for success.)
But Barney didn’t do the easy thing, here. He did the *right* thing–win what you can today, and come back tomorrow to fight again–even though he *knew* he’d get tomatoes thrown at him from the gay community. Agree with him or disagree with him, but you have to admit he’s principled and gutsy. He’s what we say we want in a politician, but what makes us gripe when he tells us hard truths.
>Every year it is the same thing.
Oh, REALLY? Every year we have four other major bills to pass?! We pass ENDA and repeal DADT every year?!
If you calm down and rethink your position, I’ll think you’ll change your mind. And this daddy bear lover didn’t appreciate your fat/old remark. Classless, man!
I have a few comments on rebuttals to me. this string is too long to cite names:
-for the person saying Barney’s tenure makes him the most powerful, duh. that is obvious. Not what I questioned. I question why we can’t get behind the other people, including a straight member, who are putting our priorities in better order. He may know how to make sausage better than them but I’m not going to let that get in the way of doing what is right.
-Someone said we don’t have the votes nor the political will, so why bother. You both missed my whole point. We’ll never have the votes if we don’t have the will. They are not one and the same, one precedes the other. I’d prefer to see someone like Mr. Frank stand up for what is right…he can work to pass what is passable without killing what is clearly the top priority.
-For the person saying tax credits are less important than being beaten you miss the whole point about the American people being sheep that follow whatever authority figure they like at the moment. Only 5 to 10%of the population think and bring forth new ideas, the rest follow. This is clear if you study religion, business hierarchy or even student bodies. Leaders and followers. Telling the entire group of dumb followers that it is ok to discriminate against us then allows them to see violence against us as not as bad as violence against women or minorities. DOMA enshrines the acceptance of bigotry in our laws and in the hearts of our extremely gullable citizenry. For me, yes, it is about unfair tax credits..unfair to the point we should be rioting! And Barney wants me to shut up and be polite….
-For the ENDA comment about most gays being employed by small businesses, I’m not disagreeing but I’d like to see some numbers to back that up. I also do not know the state of small companies and equal benefits. All I’d say is that the marketplace of jobs is one of choice and you can choose to work for a fair company or not. You may not have a choice, I know, but in looking at this from my vantage point, nearly all the gays I know do have a choice. We are highly sought after! My company recently laid off 10% of the workforce. I let 5 people go in one day, people I consider friends. Very tough. However EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM got a job in a few months…even in this horrible economy. Why? most of my colleagues are extremely employable and the huge competition out there did not affect them. Maybe I’m not seeing the whole slice of our population but I don’t see gay people here in Mass in jobs where they are discriminated against and who do not possess marketable skills that would allow them to move. ENDA for me is important but the goal can be achieved in the marketplace much faster, and it has as proof of my point.
We’ll never all agree..we are more diverse than any other group by definition of what holds us together..something that is a tiny part of who we are (at least for me…I’m creative, problem solving and forceful…just happen to like men).
so no disrespect meant, but I still do not agree that DOMA repeal is not the top priority. I think it is a no brainer but these comments have made me realize we have progress to be made, and won’t ever totally agree which is ok.
For the person mentioning the death tax I agree. I call abortion foes anti-choice and have for 20 years. Language matters. WE want to defend marriage, THEY want to limit it and thus make it insignificant.
But I have to say the death tax is alive and well, not as you implied it has been killed.
The death tax is one of the main reasons I’m very, very conservative (not Republican, please don’t insult me with the knuckledraggers).
Taxing what my family earned and paid taxes on already upon their death is disgusting. It is un-American..just like the regressive tax rate is. It is original sin to tax money twice just as it is to tax earnings at a higher rate based on earnings…it shows people do not understand the definition of “per cent”.
Heh. DaveW, I never said tax credits were less important than not being beaten, although the more I think about that statement, the more it seems like a great big DUH to me. My point is this: if there are no legal protections in place BEFORE DOMA and DADT are repealed, what recourse will there be for people who are violated after the fact? I’m not saying that you’re wrong about your opinion (that would be almost amusing if it didn’t happen with such alarming frequency on so many levels, these days), but I am saying that you maybe might want to expand the perspective from which you are viewing these issues. Marriage happens to be the issue that most affects you, and I get a better idea of that after having read your comments. However, I will ask again: do you think there will NOT be a backlash from that portion of the population that actively wants to restrict GLBT rights if marriage and military service are suddenly opened up for everyone? What protections will be in place for GLBT citizens once measures like DOMA and DADT are repealed? If you were to get your way and the other pieces of legislation are shelved, there will be NONE, at least none that aren’t already NOT being enforced.
Form of order, man. It’s all about a form of order.