November 22nd, 2009
 

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Frank not on board with DOMA bill

, Keen News Service

(Washington) A bill seeking to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was introduced today but this “top priority” for the community is already relegated to a legislative obscurity and inaction for this session and, perhaps, beyond, says U.S. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.).

The bill, introduced by U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), a long-time supporter of equal rights for gays, has essentially no chance for a hearing or vote during this session of Congress, according to Frank. It is the last of eight bills of specific interest to the LGBT community to be introduced to this session of Congress, which is nearing the end of the first of its two years. And Frank, the de facto leader on LGBT-related measures in Congress, says four other bills come first.

“We have pending four major pieces of [LGBT] legislation which have a serious chance to pass,” said Frank Monday in a phone interview. Those, he noted, are the Matthew Shepard hate crimes bill, attached to a bill authorizing defense spending; the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA); a bill to give equal benefits to the partners of gay federal employees as provided to straight spouses; and a bill to repeal the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

The Nadler bill, said Frank, “has zero chance of passage, even out of committee. It’s a mistake.”

Frank’s problem with the bill isn’t just its timing on a crowded and unusually urgent Congressional calendar monopolized by health care reform, financial regulation reform, appropriations bills, and the other LGBT legislation.

“It’s a very controversial form” of the bill, he said.

 Nadler’s bill, the “Respect for Marriage Act,” (ROMA) is a simple two-page measure, seeking to do two things:

·     repeal both sections of DOMA –Section 2, which says no state can be “required” to recognize the marriage of a same-sex couple licensed in another state, and Section 3, which limits the interpretation of “marriage” for any federal purpose to only heterosexual couples; and,

·    add language that says “for the purposes of any Federal law in which marital status is a factor, an individual shall be considered married if that individual’s marriage is valid in the State where the marriage was entered into or, in the case of a marriage entered into outside any State, if the marriage is valid in the place where entered into and the marriage could have been entered into in a State.”

Frank says the latter clause abandons the strategy of “dealing with marriage state by state.” If a same-sex couple obtains a marriage license in Massachusetts and moves to California, the federal government would recognize their marriage in California.

Evan Wolfson, executive director of the national Freedom to Marry organization, helped write that latter provision, which has been dubbed the “certainty clause.”

“It’s called the ‘certainty clause,’” said Wolfson, in a phone interview after the press conference, “because it establishes certainty that your federal protections and responsibilities will remain with you no matter where you travel” as a same-sex married couple. “The federal government will have a consistent approach. And it’s not telling states what to do,” says Wolfson.

Frank concedes that it’s “a desirable goal,” but says, “we’re not remotely close to achieving it and it’s unwise politically.” For that reason, said Frank, he’s not one of the bill’s current 90 co-sponsors.

But doesn’t Frank’s refusal to co-sponsor the bill, even as a starting point for discussion, essentially kill the bill before it’s out of the chute?

“It does send a message that it’s a bad idea,” says Frank. “But I want to send a message.”

 Top priority for community

While the Nadler bill doesn’t have Frank’s support, it does have the co-sponsorship of two of Congress’ other openly gay members – Reps. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc.) and Jared Polis (D-Colo.).

Joining Nadler and others at Tuesday’s press conference were some of the movement’s biggest leaders –Wolfson; Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign; Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force; Kevin Cathcart, executive director of Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund; and Shannon Minter, legal director for the National Center for Lesbian Rights.

HRC’s website says its communications with the LGBT community around the country indicates repealing DOMA is “a top priority.” Some 50,000 people responded to the organization’s request for examples of how DOMA affects them negatively.

“We’re in this for the long haul,” said Solmonese, in a phone interview following Tuesday’s press conference. “This is a long term strategy.” He seems untroubled by Frank’s withholding of support.

“We have a difference of opinion about tactics,” said Solmonese.    

Perhaps, but Frank likens Nadler’s bill to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome’s decision, in February 2004, to direct city officials to start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples even though a state law prohibited it.

“It’s an effort to make people in the community happy,” said Frank. “That’s not our job. We owe people our judgment.”

Some political observers have blamed Newsome’s tactic as off-putting and responsible for at least some of the vote to approve Proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage, in California last November.

Frank says he thinks “the way we’ll win” repeal of DOMA is through the lawsuit filed by GLAD against Section 3 of the law.

Noticeably absent was the Massachusetts-based legal organization that has been leading the charge for same-sex marriage rights and against DOMA –the Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders. But Carisa Cunningham, a spokesperson for GLAD, said the organization supports the bill.

“We just didn’t have anyone who could make it to Washington today,” said Cunningham.

And Nadler defends ROMA: “Mr. Frank knows better than anyone that our opponents will falsely claim that any DOMA repeal bill ‘exports marriage’ in an effort to generate fear and misunderstanding.  But the dishonest tactics of our opponents should not stop us from aggressively pushing to end this horrific discrimination now, as is the consensus of the nation’s top LGBT groups who all support this approach.”

Nadler says his bill “does not tell any state who it must marry or what marriage it must recognize under state law.”

“Our bill,” says Nadler, “allows states to continue deciding those questions, while ensuring uniform access to critically important federal responsibilities and rights that hinge on marriage and upon which all married couples should be able to rely.”

 

© 2009 Keen News Service


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  • Drewski Said: September 16th, 2009 at 4:28 am
    • @MavsFan–and ratings translate to legitimacy? Sweden’s #1 newspaper tried that earlier this month. Did it make their claims (Israel and state-sanctioned organ brokers ripping off the Palestinian lumpenproletariat) come anywhere close to true? Did the paper have to answer for the consequences of its irresponsible actions? If that argument were true, then Juan and Evita Peron wrecked Argentina becasue the people wanted it wrecked. If true, then Rwanda was cored by genocide because the radio broadcasts were right and true, and there was no other truth to hear. Really? That’s how any of these things went?

      We’ve had eight years of superconflation. If you’re American, you support your President, and if you support your President, you believe each and every word from Faux News. Obama has managed to sustain the beast by refusing to get bile on his hands and shove the blade of truth as deep as the hilt (because he has a bipartisan complex). Obama can maybe be forgiven his delusion. Dude, do you REALLY believe that audience equals veracity?

  • MavsFan Said: September 15th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
    • @Thomas: Do you really believe that boycotting products associated with Fox News will make a difference? Their viewership far surpasses all of the other cable news channels. If in fact Fox News has a conservative bias, it’s only because every other “news” station has an innate bias in favor of the Dems.
      So sad that you think childish boycotting will make a difference….how many people do you think you could get behind your boycott anyway? And I would be willing to wager that those who would choose to follow you are not counted among Fox’s huge audience.Fox News would not be touched. Rethink your strategy.

  • Kari Said: September 15th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
    • DaveW: “I have to question who appointed Frank our spokesperson anyway?”

      Clout, influence and power in Congress comes with seniority. Frank was first elected to the House in 1980 and since then has been re-elected to his seat thirteen times. Baldwin was first elected in 1998 is is currently serving her serving her sixth term. Polis was just elected last year. Frank is a committee chair. Baldwin and Polis are not.

      Frank isn’t our ’spokesperson’. But it is an undeniable fact that he is the most powerful and influential gay member of Congress because he is by far the most senior.

      “ENDA? yes important but most big companies have gotten with the picture long, long before the government.”

      Big companies are not the reason we need ENDA. The majority of Americans work in smaller businesses, not Fortune 500s. Yes, Corporate America has been wise to the gay issue for a while. They’re not employing the majority of our community or the majority of America.

      ROMA is not the highest gay legislative priority because there just aren’t enough votes to pass it. Polls don’t indicate the majority of the American people are on board with the idea either. Lack of public support combined with lack of political will generally results in a bill being dead on introduction.

      Johannes: “If Frank is so reliably astute in regards to knowing how to get LGBT legislation passed, then why did he strip transgender protections from ENDA last year, thereby losing the support of many progressives and dooming the bill’s passage?”

      Uh, the non-inclusive version of ENDA *PASSED* the House last year. It died when the Senate failed to take any action on the bill. The inclusive ENDA has been introduced in both houses this year, but doesn’t seem to be moving at all.

  • Veronica Onassis Said: September 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    • I have lost hope. We have been led to believe that the end of DOMA and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” are near. The truth is anything but. Congress, controlled by Democrats, will not, in my opinion, favor same-sex marriage anytime soon. I think that we should never give up but my hopes are on the floor at this point.

  • Thomas Said: September 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
  • TimAndEarl Said: September 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
    • Divide and conquer!

  • Thomas Said: September 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
    • More bad news…since returning to the U.S. I’ve noticed a mentality similar to Stockholm’s Syndrome. That’s the behavior when a hostage identifies with his/her kidnapper, and attempts to please.

      I’m so totally over this it isn’t funny, and I’m over the Dems as well. I’m not falling for their world, their politics, their bullshit. It’s time for form cells, people; you should seriously consider who you support when you buy your groceries, your drugs, etc. These are ways we can build a genuine community throughout society, no matter how red and despicable it is. Research who supports Fox News and boycott their products; after the big sellout a.k.a. “health care reform” form consumer alliances with local doctors who have hospital privileges, and eliminate the health insurance industry; learn to grow your own medicine and become healthier, and become responsible by drinking less and exercising more; together we can do this and we must.

      There is no possibility of political reform with such a government; we are on our own so let’s make the most of it and really seize power within our respective communities.

      And Barney Frank? He might be right about this but considering how the Democrats sold us all out on health care reform, I don’t trust him either.

  • GayIthacan Said: September 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
    • Johannes:

      Perhaps because WITH THOSE in the bill, it would have lost even more widely?

      As I said – I think we can trust Mr. Frank on how to get bills passed. And on knowing when a situation is hopeless.

  • Dr. Peter Said: September 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
    • I fear that, as always, Mr. Frank is correct in his assessment of the currant DOMA repeal effort. Sad, and I’m ashamed, but…
      Respectfully

  • Johannes Said: September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    • It’s time to “rebrand” DOMA. Conservatives effectively undermined support for the estate tax by rebranding it as the death tax. Let’s stop referring to DOMA by its euphemistic and offensive title and call it the MARRIAGE DISCRIMINATION ACT, which is sounds much less appealing and is entirely more accurate.

  • Johannes Said: September 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
    • GayIthacan said, “I think Mr, Frank – one of our strongest allies – knows what he is doing politically – as opposed to those here who know little or nothing about how politics is ‘done’ and who seem to reside in some Lifetime movie.”

      If Frank is so reliably astute in regards to knowing how to get LGBT legislation passed, then why did he strip transgender protections from ENDA last year, thereby losing the support of many progressives and dooming the bill’s passage? He now put transgender protections back into this year’s ENDA, effectively admitting that it was a huge mistake and one that needlessly divided the community. Much like his current action on DOMA repeal might.

  • GayIthacan Said: September 15th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
    • “Does Frank want us to wait until an election year to try to pass this legislation, or just keep waiting until everything else is solved, and the majority decides we can have equal rights?”

      Um – Yes, he does.

      As opposed to ramming ones head into a stone wall. jeopardizing the OTHER FOUR MAJOR BILLS – and getting absolutely nothing next year.

      But then, at least YOU will have the satisfaction of having engaged in yet another Quixotic political act that never had a chance of success – and will set the cause back another decade or more.

      I think Mr, Frank – one of our strongest allies – knows what he is doing politically – as opposed to those here who know little or nothing about how politics is ‘done’ and who seem to reside in some Lifetime movie.

  • commentor Said: September 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
    • I appreciate the fact that Congress places a higher priority on benefits for federal workers, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for Frank, but ROMA would solve the federal workers’ problem AND the problems of millions of people across the country.

      I agree that there is not a great chance chance of it passing, but there is no chance of it passing if it doesn’t make it to the floor. Frank should champion it, not shoot it down. With control of the government in the hands of the Democratic party, and elections two years away, this might actually be the best point in time to push it through.

  • DaveW Said: September 15th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    • I have to question who appointed Frank our spokesperson anyway? Is every straight person the automatic leader, go to person, on abortion or het marriage?

      I’m delighted we have someone in power that is part of our community but I think we sometimes forget gay is just one characteristic of a person, not the whole person, and that means they won’t always get it right on our issues. He represents more straight people than us.

      For me, DOMA is the most important concern. I put it ahead of the other 4 bills simply because DOMA RAISES my tax bill vs. my married neighbors. It is most insidious in its effect on healthcare: I pay a montly fee to the IRS based on the value of my partner’s healthcare and of course it is in the top tax bracket so just patently unfair when you consider couples that pay very little in taxes get this exemption all the time.

      ENDA? yes important but most big companies have gotten with the picture long, long before the government. I work for a Saudi company that provides my husband’s healthcare (and to the non married spouses of my colleagues who don’t happen to work in Massachusetts…yes, un-official domestic partnerships covered by the Saudis!)

      DADT: important symbolically but only directly helpful to someone who is in or wants to be in the military…a huge minority of our community.

      Federal Benefits? same as DADT..small group affected (and not me)

      Hate Crimes: probably second after DOMA, very important but there are other avenues to go after these attackers. I for one would start by simply banckrupting them, for example. Plus here in Mass I would have more support than a victim in Wyoming or Louisianna.

      My point is DOMA affects EVERYONE and should be our top priority. It is also a no-brainer. No sane person, not inculcated with fear of god, would agree to restricting marriage. Fixing DOMA goes straight at our opponents: religion (and those brainwashed by it).

      I can’t see how it isn’t the top priority, the most moral fight to take, and the fight that targets the groups that average Americans can agree with are slimy: preachers.

      Don’t forget in Maine the RCC is holding its “second appeal” on Sunday. And the bigot/sheep in the pews don’t have a chance to think for themselves, haveing already sold their brains to the devil.

  • churroboy Said: September 15th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    • “Some political observers have blamed Newsome’s tactic as off-putting and responsible for at least some of the vote to approve Proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage, in California last November.” Did they forget that it was this action that started the legal fight for marriage equality in California that eventually led to the legalization of same sex marriage in California. We need bold action and bold leadership to make progress in a short amount of time. We can’t continue to wait it out as so many suggest. Does Frank want us to wait until an election year to try to pass this legislation, or just keep waiting until everything else is solved, and the majority decides we can have equal rights?

 
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