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		<title>By: Buddy Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am gratified to find so many soul-mates on 365Gay.com forums, such as: Simon Jones, Trace, Rodney Moore, Mr. Smith, and so many more of you who are coming out everyday to denounce this farce that was being epitomized as “our last hope“. Too many of us have been deluded into thinking that Obama will usher in a  Golden Age of Freedom for our kind. We should not hold our breath on that presumption -- unless we are tired of breathing, that is. 

As I said before, I have no doubt that our priority to him, and to a Democratic-controlled Congress, would rate somewhere far below that of protecting the Black-footed Ferret and passing a resolution to honor National Cabbage Day. If we don’t get a pro-labor, pro-civil rights third party firmly entrenched, in at least 10% of the seats in Congress, then the two party power structure will continue to cooperate in at least two things: (1) favor the current status quo, job-destroying, financial Darwinism of Wall Street, while (2) concurrently doing their best bit of “across the aisle cooperation” by resolutely ignoring the GLBT Community into complete irrelevancy.

So, I thank all of  you who understand that by our not demanding our rights from those we have put into office -- we gain nothing. By eagerly settling for insulting proposals of social apartheid and segregationist  legislative “final solutions” to our disenfranchisement  -- we deserve the contempt we receive . I wish more people would understand that we are not traitors to our own kind, committing political “homo“-cide against the “Gay race“, just because we point out the dangerous hypocrisy of those who claim to be our “friends”. The “go along to get along” Uncle Tomishness, of what embarrassingly passes as leadership in our community, has just made enablers of us all.  Don’t we get the kind of leadership we deserve, if we do not demand better? 

I implore people not to send more money to HRC if they continue to just wine and dine greedy, power-hungry politicians who could care less about our rights. Just ask yourself this:  when the day comes that we finally achieve our full civil rights in this hateful country, who will need the Democrats to advocate for GLBT causes? Don’t you think the DNC realizes that fear every time they hit us up for the tens of millions of dollars we splurge on their campaigns in return for half-hearted promises they have no intention of keeping? 

For all the many years of our financial support and with our loyal vote, can you name one major piece of legislation, or even a small one; any pro-GLBT civil rights bill that has ever been passed when the Democrats were in power for the majority of the last fifty years? We got DADT and DOMA instead (under a Democratic President, I might add) which could not have passed without the consent of the Democrats and the full collaboration of the leadership of the Democratic party with the Republicans.

Too many Democratic politicians fear that if we get what we want, then we wont need them anymore. Our complete egalitarian assimilation into this society would spell doom for many who have exploited the GLBT community for so very long. It is not in their best interest to end our dependency on the Democratic Party. They fear that; I smell it on them. We are useful (and reliable) fools with the cash and the votes they need -- especially in a close election.

I agree with you “Simon Jones”, and with so many of you in the GLBT community at large who have seen through the Democrats’ cynical ploy. If only we truly had stronger leadership in our community we just might have a stronger, more united community. Where are our role models for the next generation of GLBT youth to emulate?

We really need committed people who could organize peaceful protests, and insist on our uncompromising demand for equality, while convincing the Circus Clowns and the Refugees from Marti Gras to leave their sequined jockstraps and pink fright wigs at home. This rebuke has nothing to do with the legitimate transgender community, which also desires to be taken seriously. It is about self-destructive exhibitionism which degrades us all as a legitimate minority group that is struggling for its freedom. Since when did we become the GLBT and E(xhibitionist) Community?

Perhaps if we would act more determined, and with true pride, about not settling for anything less than being treated with unequivocal respect for our human dignity and for our human rights; then perhaps, just perhaps, more people would believe we deserve our fair share of both.

~ Bud Evans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am gratified to find so many soul-mates on 365Gay.com forums, such as: Simon Jones, Trace, Rodney Moore, Mr. Smith, and so many more of you who are coming out everyday to denounce this farce that was being epitomized as “our last hope“. Too many of us have been deluded into thinking that Obama will usher in a  Golden Age of Freedom for our kind. We should not hold our breath on that presumption &#8212; unless we are tired of breathing, that is. </p>
<p>As I said before, I have no doubt that our priority to him, and to a Democratic-controlled Congress, would rate somewhere far below that of protecting the Black-footed Ferret and passing a resolution to honor National Cabbage Day. If we don’t get a pro-labor, pro-civil rights third party firmly entrenched, in at least 10% of the seats in Congress, then the two party power structure will continue to cooperate in at least two things: (1) favor the current status quo, job-destroying, financial Darwinism of Wall Street, while (2) concurrently doing their best bit of “across the aisle cooperation” by resolutely ignoring the GLBT Community into complete irrelevancy.</p>
<p>So, I thank all of  you who understand that by our not demanding our rights from those we have put into office &#8212; we gain nothing. By eagerly settling for insulting proposals of social apartheid and segregationist  legislative “final solutions” to our disenfranchisement  &#8212; we deserve the contempt we receive . I wish more people would understand that we are not traitors to our own kind, committing political “homo“-cide against the “Gay race“, just because we point out the dangerous hypocrisy of those who claim to be our “friends”. The “go along to get along” Uncle Tomishness, of what embarrassingly passes as leadership in our community, has just made enablers of us all.  Don’t we get the kind of leadership we deserve, if we do not demand better? </p>
<p>I implore people not to send more money to HRC if they continue to just wine and dine greedy, power-hungry politicians who could care less about our rights. Just ask yourself this:  when the day comes that we finally achieve our full civil rights in this hateful country, who will need the Democrats to advocate for GLBT causes? Don’t you think the DNC realizes that fear every time they hit us up for the tens of millions of dollars we splurge on their campaigns in return for half-hearted promises they have no intention of keeping? </p>
<p>For all the many years of our financial support and with our loyal vote, can you name one major piece of legislation, or even a small one; any pro-GLBT civil rights bill that has ever been passed when the Democrats were in power for the majority of the last fifty years? We got DADT and DOMA instead (under a Democratic President, I might add) which could not have passed without the consent of the Democrats and the full collaboration of the leadership of the Democratic party with the Republicans.</p>
<p>Too many Democratic politicians fear that if we get what we want, then we wont need them anymore. Our complete egalitarian assimilation into this society would spell doom for many who have exploited the GLBT community for so very long. It is not in their best interest to end our dependency on the Democratic Party. They fear that; I smell it on them. We are useful (and reliable) fools with the cash and the votes they need &#8212; especially in a close election.</p>
<p>I agree with you “Simon Jones”, and with so many of you in the GLBT community at large who have seen through the Democrats’ cynical ploy. If only we truly had stronger leadership in our community we just might have a stronger, more united community. Where are our role models for the next generation of GLBT youth to emulate?</p>
<p>We really need committed people who could organize peaceful protests, and insist on our uncompromising demand for equality, while convincing the Circus Clowns and the Refugees from Marti Gras to leave their sequined jockstraps and pink fright wigs at home. This rebuke has nothing to do with the legitimate transgender community, which also desires to be taken seriously. It is about self-destructive exhibitionism which degrades us all as a legitimate minority group that is struggling for its freedom. Since when did we become the GLBT and E(xhibitionist) Community?</p>
<p>Perhaps if we would act more determined, and with true pride, about not settling for anything less than being treated with unequivocal respect for our human dignity and for our human rights; then perhaps, just perhaps, more people would believe we deserve our fair share of both.</p>
<p>~ Bud Evans</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God(Goddess of the God or deity of your choice). 

Finally, more and more gay and lesbian Americans are making their voices heard that Obama is a sell out. I am very left wing and to be honest I would like to vote for Obama. However for that to happen, Obama has to make a principled and clear stand in support marriage equality along gay and lesbian equality in its entirety. Sound bites and pleasant words wont cut it. And when I mean principled and clear stand, it means I want him to enforce the Constitution, even if by force. In the 1950s and 1960s, when schools didn&#039;t desegregate, Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sent the National Guard to enforce the Constitution. By the same token, when state supreme courts make decisions in favor of our rights, we need people in office who will use all available means of enforcing the Constitution and not timidly hide from the Lynch mob. Why should gay and lesbian human rights be treated as any less important than the rights of African Americans or any other group?!?! 

I cannot vote for Obama nor any candidate as long as they oppose marriage equality. And any candidate who does support marriage equality will get my vote. 

If Obama loses the election, then he has noone but himself to blame. Democrats have been losing elections in droves, because they spend too many time trying to act like Republicans only to alienate their moderate, liberal, progressive and gay bases. We already have a right wing party in America, we don&#039;t need two. And Obama&#039;s black(or caramel) skin should not buy him a White House, people should be smart enough to vote on issues or not at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God(Goddess of the God or deity of your choice). </p>
<p>Finally, more and more gay and lesbian Americans are making their voices heard that Obama is a sell out. I am very left wing and to be honest I would like to vote for Obama. However for that to happen, Obama has to make a principled and clear stand in support marriage equality along gay and lesbian equality in its entirety. Sound bites and pleasant words wont cut it. And when I mean principled and clear stand, it means I want him to enforce the Constitution, even if by force. In the 1950s and 1960s, when schools didn&#8217;t desegregate, Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson sent the National Guard to enforce the Constitution. By the same token, when state supreme courts make decisions in favor of our rights, we need people in office who will use all available means of enforcing the Constitution and not timidly hide from the Lynch mob. Why should gay and lesbian human rights be treated as any less important than the rights of African Americans or any other group?!?! </p>
<p>I cannot vote for Obama nor any candidate as long as they oppose marriage equality. And any candidate who does support marriage equality will get my vote. </p>
<p>If Obama loses the election, then he has noone but himself to blame. Democrats have been losing elections in droves, because they spend too many time trying to act like Republicans only to alienate their moderate, liberal, progressive and gay bases. We already have a right wing party in America, we don&#8217;t need two. And Obama&#8217;s black(or caramel) skin should not buy him a White House, people should be smart enough to vote on issues or not at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Tracy.  It&#039;s sad that these are the only two to chose from.  But we the people are responsible for letting our government become as bad as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tracy.  It&#8217;s sad that these are the only two to chose from.  But we the people are responsible for letting our government become as bad as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you expect Obama to mention Senator Kennedy? The man could not even remember the name of the soldier, who&#039;s bracelet he supposedly has?

Face it, Obama is out for himself and himself alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you expect Obama to mention Senator Kennedy? The man could not even remember the name of the soldier, who&#8217;s bracelet he supposedly has?</p>
<p>Face it, Obama is out for himself and himself alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain mentioned San Kennedy in the hospital why didn&#039;t Obama have the grace to mention Sen Kenedy whom NcCain called a friend, lion of the senate, etc. 
I am no fan of McCain and his vision of the country, but at least he has the demeanor of a gentleman, why Obama sometimes comes off as arrogant,cocky and self-assured. 

I hope that McCain doeesn&#039;t start wowing the voting public more than Obame and I am afraid a lot of people are going to think that McCain won this debate and is the more presidential looking of the two.Because I don&#039;t another 4 Bush-like years of downhill for economy and uphill battle for GLBT rights plus pandering to corporation. And with a grossly underqualified Palin in need of muzzling until she &quot;learns her way around and gets training in what McCAin needs her to say and do. The idea that we have a Palin and her meddling husband Todd who just can&#039;t duck out of the picture and has insert himself as someone noone elected to interact with leaderts and to make commentary as though he were running things. Just imagine Palin with little practical foreign policy except maybe her state&#039;s lol level interactions with neighboring Russia of a very likely minor nature not noticeable to those outside Alaska. Alaska was once owned by Russia until it was bought from Russia by the US government in the 19th century.

Back to Palin. The idea of an inexperienced &quot;little girl type&quot; Palin potentially within a heartbeat on a nuclear trigger assisted in her position by her &quot;unelected to the job&quot; husband Todd just makes me very nervous. Palin is a horrible choice for VP.

But I don&#039;t like Obama either, but I voting for him because Biden has long experience in the US Senate and can maybe guide Obama where needed on foreigh policy and defense, arrogant Obama of the thin US senatorial experience and thin foreign policy experience himself needs watching and help but backed up by Biden, I consider Obama less of a liability for our nation than Palin under McCain. I am relieved than Obama&#039;s wife stays in the background unlike Palin&#039;s meddling husband Todd who is always in the same room with his wife whether that be appropriae or not for the situation at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain mentioned San Kennedy in the hospital why didn&#8217;t Obama have the grace to mention Sen Kenedy whom NcCain called a friend, lion of the senate, etc.<br />
I am no fan of McCain and his vision of the country, but at least he has the demeanor of a gentleman, why Obama sometimes comes off as arrogant,cocky and self-assured. </p>
<p>I hope that McCain doeesn&#8217;t start wowing the voting public more than Obame and I am afraid a lot of people are going to think that McCain won this debate and is the more presidential looking of the two.Because I don&#8217;t another 4 Bush-like years of downhill for economy and uphill battle for GLBT rights plus pandering to corporation. And with a grossly underqualified Palin in need of muzzling until she &#8220;learns her way around and gets training in what McCAin needs her to say and do. The idea that we have a Palin and her meddling husband Todd who just can&#8217;t duck out of the picture and has insert himself as someone noone elected to interact with leaderts and to make commentary as though he were running things. Just imagine Palin with little practical foreign policy except maybe her state&#8217;s lol level interactions with neighboring Russia of a very likely minor nature not noticeable to those outside Alaska. Alaska was once owned by Russia until it was bought from Russia by the US government in the 19th century.</p>
<p>Back to Palin. The idea of an inexperienced &#8220;little girl type&#8221; Palin potentially within a heartbeat on a nuclear trigger assisted in her position by her &#8220;unelected to the job&#8221; husband Todd just makes me very nervous. Palin is a horrible choice for VP.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t like Obama either, but I voting for him because Biden has long experience in the US Senate and can maybe guide Obama where needed on foreigh policy and defense, arrogant Obama of the thin US senatorial experience and thin foreign policy experience himself needs watching and help but backed up by Biden, I consider Obama less of a liability for our nation than Palin under McCain. I am relieved than Obama&#8217;s wife stays in the background unlike Palin&#8217;s meddling husband Todd who is always in the same room with his wife whether that be appropriae or not for the situation at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Bud Evans. Thank you for confirming what I have thought all along. Where are our outspoken leaders? Where is the gay Dr. King? Who will replace Harvey Milk? Where is the visual presence we began to have in the 60&#039;s and again in the 90&#039;s? Of course Obama won. He has a fresher more global view of the subject matter in the debate. Post- Clinton it appears we are allowing ourselves to &quot; sit at the back of the bus&quot; when it comes to what is important to our community. The marriage law debate is only a part of what we, as a community need. We need a strong leader. I don’t think Cher’s daughter is up to the task. I haven’t seen much of any other politician sticking their face out there to make a difference. Please someone mention one name that has some clout. Who is our Mr. Smith we can send to Washington? Barney Frank? We need our Rosa parks today. I want to sit up front and drink from the political water fountain every hetro can drink from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bud Evans. Thank you for confirming what I have thought all along. Where are our outspoken leaders? Where is the gay Dr. King? Who will replace Harvey Milk? Where is the visual presence we began to have in the 60&#8217;s and again in the 90&#8217;s? Of course Obama won. He has a fresher more global view of the subject matter in the debate. Post- Clinton it appears we are allowing ourselves to &#8221; sit at the back of the bus&#8221; when it comes to what is important to our community. The marriage law debate is only a part of what we, as a community need. We need a strong leader. I don’t think Cher’s daughter is up to the task. I haven’t seen much of any other politician sticking their face out there to make a difference. Please someone mention one name that has some clout. Who is our Mr. Smith we can send to Washington? Barney Frank? We need our Rosa parks today. I want to sit up front and drink from the political water fountain every hetro can drink from.</p>
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		<title>By: `Doug loves you</title>
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		<dc:creator>`Doug loves you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil and I sat and watched the debate and came away disappointed as we thought we would. Neither said much of any substance or offered really good answers to the questions put to them. I thought both looked nervous, especially mcc, who after all had hurried back to dc to solve the usa economy. The one good point for me was mentioning health care reforms. My main concern is this, without being healthy you can not do your best at most everything. To me, the whole $$$ issue is not a surprise. When you are told to invest and become rich, most did so without the smallest knowledge of how the stock markets are ran or the rules. You just see $$$signs. Our greed and selfishness have gotten us into this mess. Now we have the result of all this madness. I don&#039;t have the answers to how to save our woes. I do believe that neithetr candidate alone can do it. We&#039;ll all have to make difficult decisions soon. I hope we will be successful. Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil and I sat and watched the debate and came away disappointed as we thought we would. Neither said much of any substance or offered really good answers to the questions put to them. I thought both looked nervous, especially mcc, who after all had hurried back to dc to solve the usa economy. The one good point for me was mentioning health care reforms. My main concern is this, without being healthy you can not do your best at most everything. To me, the whole $$$ issue is not a surprise. When you are told to invest and become rich, most did so without the smallest knowledge of how the stock markets are ran or the rules. You just see $$$signs. Our greed and selfishness have gotten us into this mess. Now we have the result of all this madness. I don&#8217;t have the answers to how to save our woes. I do believe that neithetr candidate alone can do it. We&#8217;ll all have to make difficult decisions soon. I hope we will be successful. Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew tired of McCain saying &quot;Obama just doesn&#039;t understand.&quot; I thought it was very insulting because he&#039;s dumming a Harvard man down...talking down to him. The man is very intelligent. And &quot;I did not win a congeniality contest.&quot; I still don&#039;t know why he&#039;s saying that. I wonder if it&#039;s because abroad in Europe Middle East and Asia people love Obama and favour him and he&#039;s just jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew tired of McCain saying &#8220;Obama just doesn&#8217;t understand.&#8221; I thought it was very insulting because he&#8217;s dumming a Harvard man down&#8230;talking down to him. The man is very intelligent. And &#8220;I did not win a congeniality contest.&#8221; I still don&#8217;t know why he&#8217;s saying that. I wonder if it&#8217;s because abroad in Europe Middle East and Asia people love Obama and favour him and he&#8217;s just jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, I thought Obama turned in the stronger debate performance. His answers were intelligent, well-informed, and logical. He replied immediately to each question, often a moment or two before Lehrer finished. Obama was honest. Each of his answers seemed accurate and free of exaggeration. He rarely became flustered. He repeatedly found points of agreement with McCain. He was confident and forceful without being belligerent. On the other hand, he tended to stammer a bit, and he didn&#039;t really answer Lehrer&#039;s question about how the bailout might affect his plans for the nation. I felt he missed an opportunity to describe his achievements as a Senator, which have exceeded McCain&#039;s despite the latter&#039;s longer tenure. He may do that in a future debate, however. Overall, Obama conveyed the temperament, capability, and judgment to be president.

By comparison, McCain seemed less informed than Obama, causing his frequent claims that Obama &quot;doesn&#039;t understand&quot; to fall flat. He seemed rigid, defensive, and sometimes impulsive. Asked how the bailout might affect his plans, he blurted an answer to the effect that he was willing to freeze all spending except for the military, homeland security, and the Department of Defense. This seems downright irrational, given the need to respond to several domestic crises. Moreover, he often attacked Obama without providing evidence to back up his allegations. Finally, McCain did little to distinguish himself from Bush. On the other hand, McCain rarely became noticeably disoriented or fell into a long, confused silence as he has in several interviews and speeches.

Ultimately, I felt Obama bested McCain in this debate on foreign policy, an area that is supposed to be McCain&#039;s main strength. For me, the debate itself makes little difference: I support Obama because of his sweeping support for LGBT rights and his plans to rescue the country from years of sharp decline on virtually every front. Obama&#039;s effectiveness in the debate, however, bodes well for his presidential prospects, and I find that very encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, I thought Obama turned in the stronger debate performance. His answers were intelligent, well-informed, and logical. He replied immediately to each question, often a moment or two before Lehrer finished. Obama was honest. Each of his answers seemed accurate and free of exaggeration. He rarely became flustered. He repeatedly found points of agreement with McCain. He was confident and forceful without being belligerent. On the other hand, he tended to stammer a bit, and he didn&#8217;t really answer Lehrer&#8217;s question about how the bailout might affect his plans for the nation. I felt he missed an opportunity to describe his achievements as a Senator, which have exceeded McCain&#8217;s despite the latter&#8217;s longer tenure. He may do that in a future debate, however. Overall, Obama conveyed the temperament, capability, and judgment to be president.</p>
<p>By comparison, McCain seemed less informed than Obama, causing his frequent claims that Obama &#8220;doesn&#8217;t understand&#8221; to fall flat. He seemed rigid, defensive, and sometimes impulsive. Asked how the bailout might affect his plans, he blurted an answer to the effect that he was willing to freeze all spending except for the military, homeland security, and the Department of Defense. This seems downright irrational, given the need to respond to several domestic crises. Moreover, he often attacked Obama without providing evidence to back up his allegations. Finally, McCain did little to distinguish himself from Bush. On the other hand, McCain rarely became noticeably disoriented or fell into a long, confused silence as he has in several interviews and speeches.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I felt Obama bested McCain in this debate on foreign policy, an area that is supposed to be McCain&#8217;s main strength. For me, the debate itself makes little difference: I support Obama because of his sweeping support for LGBT rights and his plans to rescue the country from years of sharp decline on virtually every front. Obama&#8217;s effectiveness in the debate, however, bodes well for his presidential prospects, and I find that very encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: bud clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>bud clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Campaign in poetry, govern in prose&quot; or not, we need HARD, SPECIFIC answers to HARD, SPECIFIC questions, and we didn&#039;t get them: on the Wall Street bailout, ending the war, healthcare, education, infrastructure, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (hello!)... this electoral cycle is costing over a BILLION dollars ... one shouldn&#039;t have to be a millionaire to run for public office. That is the case now, and look where it got us: the BuschReich in all its Berlin-between-the-wars odious excess. At least SOME of those things are on Obama&#039;s shopping list. If I had $5000 to spend on healthcare, I wouldn&#039;t NEED McCain&#039;s tax credit, but I DON&#039;T. They really should have talked about the Rethugnantclones&#039; proposal to turn Social Security over to &quot;the free market&quot; (i.e. Wall Street) ... wouldn&#039;t THAT have been a lovely mess?! Yes, I&#039;m concerned about the Democrats&#039; lack of vocal commitment to GLBT rights, but they&#039;re in the same position politicians were c. 1950 ... anybody for integration couldn&#039;t get elected; it was the kiss of death, yes, with the &quot;religulous&quot; voters (to borrow Bill Mahr&#039;s excellent term)to support equal rights for African-Americans and other minorities. Do you REALLY think it&#039;s PRUDENT for someone running for President in the present repressive, hostile, and downright VIOLENT climate regarding GLBT people and (Hispanic) immigrants to stand up and say, &quot;I&#039;m for GLBT marriage and adoption and repeal of DOMA and DADT and general amnesty for working illegal immigrants?&quot; McCain is a warmonger, the golden boy of the military-industrial complex. I don&#039;t want his finger on the button. Nuclear war with Iran COULD trigger a disastrous global ecological apocalypse.I&#039;m more concerned about THAT, never mind the one that&#039;s already rolling down the tracks at full speed and is threatening to overwhelm us if we don&#039;t act IMMEDIATELY to cut dependence on fossil fuels and reduce toxic emissions of ALL kinds. McCain could care less about all THOSE things.

Cheers,

Bud Clark
San Diego CA USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Campaign in poetry, govern in prose&#8221; or not, we need HARD, SPECIFIC answers to HARD, SPECIFIC questions, and we didn&#8217;t get them: on the Wall Street bailout, ending the war, healthcare, education, infrastructure, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (hello!)&#8230; this electoral cycle is costing over a BILLION dollars &#8230; one shouldn&#8217;t have to be a millionaire to run for public office. That is the case now, and look where it got us: the BuschReich in all its Berlin-between-the-wars odious excess. At least SOME of those things are on Obama&#8217;s shopping list. If I had $5000 to spend on healthcare, I wouldn&#8217;t NEED McCain&#8217;s tax credit, but I DON&#8217;T. They really should have talked about the Rethugnantclones&#8217; proposal to turn Social Security over to &#8220;the free market&#8221; (i.e. Wall Street) &#8230; wouldn&#8217;t THAT have been a lovely mess?! Yes, I&#8217;m concerned about the Democrats&#8217; lack of vocal commitment to GLBT rights, but they&#8217;re in the same position politicians were c. 1950 &#8230; anybody for integration couldn&#8217;t get elected; it was the kiss of death, yes, with the &#8220;religulous&#8221; voters (to borrow Bill Mahr&#8217;s excellent term)to support equal rights for African-Americans and other minorities. Do you REALLY think it&#8217;s PRUDENT for someone running for President in the present repressive, hostile, and downright VIOLENT climate regarding GLBT people and (Hispanic) immigrants to stand up and say, &#8220;I&#8217;m for GLBT marriage and adoption and repeal of DOMA and DADT and general amnesty for working illegal immigrants?&#8221; McCain is a warmonger, the golden boy of the military-industrial complex. I don&#8217;t want his finger on the button. Nuclear war with Iran COULD trigger a disastrous global ecological apocalypse.I&#8217;m more concerned about THAT, never mind the one that&#8217;s already rolling down the tracks at full speed and is threatening to overwhelm us if we don&#8217;t act IMMEDIATELY to cut dependence on fossil fuels and reduce toxic emissions of ALL kinds. McCain could care less about all THOSE things.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bud Clark<br />
San Diego CA USA</p>
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