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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Ex-gays&#8217; sue DC human rights office</title>
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		<title>By: TGB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ex-gays&quot; deserve ridicule. It&#039;s like being ex-hispanic or ex-human.

They&#039;re still gay, regardless of how adamantly they deny it or delude themselves. And thus the ridicule is appropriately placed. Them, and Scientologists. Uh-huh, those two right there, they get the ridicule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ex-gays&#8221; deserve ridicule. It&#8217;s like being ex-hispanic or ex-human.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re still gay, regardless of how adamantly they deny it or delude themselves. And thus the ridicule is appropriately placed. Them, and Scientologists. Uh-huh, those two right there, they get the ridicule.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr. bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are an x-gay, you are straight, and therefore already protected, but I agree with other posts that say this is a veiled attempt to discredit the gay community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are an x-gay, you are straight, and therefore already protected, but I agree with other posts that say this is a veiled attempt to discredit the gay community.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I confused or doesn&#039;t it mean that when you are an &quot;ex-gay&quot; that means your straight?  Don&#039;t straight people already enjoy their full freedoms?  These people need to get over themselves.  They have no standing on the issue of discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I confused or doesn&#8217;t it mean that when you are an &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; that means your straight?  Don&#8217;t straight people already enjoy their full freedoms?  These people need to get over themselves.  They have no standing on the issue of discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: The Menstruator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Menstruator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t take the heat? Get out of the gay kitchen? 
I&#039;m an ex-straight. Nice to meet you. 
The &quot;ex gays&quot; are sexual terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t take the heat? Get out of the gay kitchen?<br />
I&#8217;m an ex-straight. Nice to meet you.<br />
The &#8220;ex gays&#8221; are sexual terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Fergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only &#039;legitimate&#039; beef i can imagine them having is the assertions that they don&#039;t exist and orientation is immutable. So if the topic of GLBT persons came up and it wasn&#039;t chimed in that they can change to straight, then they feel marginalized.  Though it&#039;s all very odd, you would think that people who were so conflicted that they tried to change would want any queer past to stay forever buried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8216;legitimate&#8217; beef i can imagine them having is the assertions that they don&#8217;t exist and orientation is immutable. So if the topic of GLBT persons came up and it wasn&#8217;t chimed in that they can change to straight, then they feel marginalized.  Though it&#8217;s all very odd, you would think that people who were so conflicted that they tried to change would want any queer past to stay forever buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My e-mail to PFOX:

I read with interest your lawsuit seeking to include &quot;ex-gays&quot; in laws such as ENDA.

It will be interesting to see if this moves forward.

I do find your logic somewhat circular. You claim that you want to be covered under laws that protect GLBT people from discrimination because they ARE gay - but to be protected under these laws because you are NOT gay (but &quot;used to be&quot;). 

If you are an &quot;Ex-gay&quot; - doesn&#039;t that now make you heterosexual? And why would you then identify as as an &quot;Ex-gay&quot; and not heterosexual?

It appears that this is a very thinly veiled attempt to use laws to protect GLBT people from discrimination in order that you might use those protections to promote your own anti-gay agenda - which I have to say, and I am supported by many true professionals in this regard - is a very destructive one.

However, if your case is allowed to move foward, and as an &quot;Ex-catholic&quot; (for lack of a better term) myself, I will then be more than happy to sue in order to be covered under freedom of religion laws. Since religion is unquestionably a choice. 

With you own logic, I should then be allowed to assert anti-catholic views and be protected in doing so. 

While I imagine that there are some GLBT people, for whatever life reasons - actually &quot;choose&quot; to pursue a homosexual life, I would venture to say that only those with masochistic tendencies would fall under that category. 

I do feel sorry for what I imagine are the vast majority of people belonging to your group who have been taught and are so filled with self-loathing (someting that your organization no doubt reinforces) - that they feel the need to supress their own identity to such a self-destructive degree. 

Having said that though, for the precious few, if any, that might exist who genuinely do fall under your category... I would suggest they identify themselves as heterosexual (that&#039;s what they now claim to be, right?) and not &quot;ex-gay&quot; if they are so concerned about &quot;discrimination&quot;. 

As stated, attempting to identify as an &quot;Ex-gay&quot; is obvious to any itelligent, thinking and rational person - little more than attempting to use GLBT protection laws to forward an anti-gay agenda. 

My prayers for the unfortunate souls who have found their way to your organization.

Sincerely,
Chris Sullivan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My e-mail to PFOX:</p>
<p>I read with interest your lawsuit seeking to include &#8220;ex-gays&#8221; in laws such as ENDA.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see if this moves forward.</p>
<p>I do find your logic somewhat circular. You claim that you want to be covered under laws that protect GLBT people from discrimination because they ARE gay &#8211; but to be protected under these laws because you are NOT gay (but &#8220;used to be&#8221;). </p>
<p>If you are an &#8220;Ex-gay&#8221; &#8211; doesn&#8217;t that now make you heterosexual? And why would you then identify as as an &#8220;Ex-gay&#8221; and not heterosexual?</p>
<p>It appears that this is a very thinly veiled attempt to use laws to protect GLBT people from discrimination in order that you might use those protections to promote your own anti-gay agenda &#8211; which I have to say, and I am supported by many true professionals in this regard &#8211; is a very destructive one.</p>
<p>However, if your case is allowed to move foward, and as an &#8220;Ex-catholic&#8221; (for lack of a better term) myself, I will then be more than happy to sue in order to be covered under freedom of religion laws. Since religion is unquestionably a choice. </p>
<p>With you own logic, I should then be allowed to assert anti-catholic views and be protected in doing so. </p>
<p>While I imagine that there are some GLBT people, for whatever life reasons &#8211; actually &#8220;choose&#8221; to pursue a homosexual life, I would venture to say that only those with masochistic tendencies would fall under that category. </p>
<p>I do feel sorry for what I imagine are the vast majority of people belonging to your group who have been taught and are so filled with self-loathing (someting that your organization no doubt reinforces) &#8211; that they feel the need to supress their own identity to such a self-destructive degree. </p>
<p>Having said that though, for the precious few, if any, that might exist who genuinely do fall under your category&#8230; I would suggest they identify themselves as heterosexual (that&#8217;s what they now claim to be, right?) and not &#8220;ex-gay&#8221; if they are so concerned about &#8220;discrimination&#8221;. </p>
<p>As stated, attempting to identify as an &#8220;Ex-gay&#8221; is obvious to any itelligent, thinking and rational person &#8211; little more than attempting to use GLBT protection laws to forward an anti-gay agenda. </p>
<p>My prayers for the unfortunate souls who have found their way to your organization.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Chris Sullivan</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is allowed to move forward - can I then sue as an &quot;ex-catholic&quot; under  religious protection laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is allowed to move forward &#8211; can I then sue as an &#8220;ex-catholic&#8221; under  religious protection laws?</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Draigh Lunara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Draigh Lunara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.  If you are ex-gay that means you are heterosexual and thus part of the majority.  You have no need to divulge your ex-gay status unless you want to create a situation or promote the ex-gay movement. Either way, you have no need for special rights, and what they are asking for are special rights!  
Whereas, if you are gay, you are quickly discriminated against becuase of it.  The backlash against these ex-gays is because it is not a choice yet they claim it to be such.  Not to mention they impose that belief onto others (much like their home religion does to others!)
Doesn&#039;t that make sense?
Blessings,
Rev. Draigh Lunara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.  If you are ex-gay that means you are heterosexual and thus part of the majority.  You have no need to divulge your ex-gay status unless you want to create a situation or promote the ex-gay movement. Either way, you have no need for special rights, and what they are asking for are special rights!<br />
Whereas, if you are gay, you are quickly discriminated against becuase of it.  The backlash against these ex-gays is because it is not a choice yet they claim it to be such.  Not to mention they impose that belief onto others (much like their home religion does to others!)<br />
Doesn&#8217;t that make sense?<br />
Blessings,<br />
Rev. Draigh Lunara</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is today 1 April? I do remember choosing to be gay: it was on a game show I was on. &quot;Do you want the $1 million or the homophobia?&quot; I would have been crazy to have taken the million dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is today 1 April? I do remember choosing to be gay: it was on a game show I was on. &#8220;Do you want the $1 million or the homophobia?&#8221; I would have been crazy to have taken the million dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought &quot;exgays&quot; were heterosexual?  Heterosexuals are covered in California&#039;s anti-discrimination laws.  I couldn&#039;t go into work tomorrow and fire every straight person because they are straight - I&#039;d be sued.  The way the law is here - it just reads &quot;sexual orientation.&quot;  Doesn&#039;t that include heterosexuals, bisexuals, gays and asexuals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;exgays&#8221; were heterosexual?  Heterosexuals are covered in California&#8217;s anti-discrimination laws.  I couldn&#8217;t go into work tomorrow and fire every straight person because they are straight &#8211; I&#8217;d be sued.  The way the law is here &#8211; it just reads &#8220;sexual orientation.&#8221;  Doesn&#8217;t that include heterosexuals, bisexuals, gays and asexuals?</p>
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