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	<title>Comments on: Dutch fuming at retired US general&#8217;s gays comment</title>
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		<title>By: lp</title>
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		<dc:creator>lp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dutch are wrong here!!! The Dutch goverment should take a stand against American policy and &quot;Human Rights&quot;.  The Dutch goverment, Parliment and the Royal family have the opportunity now to let the world know of the discrimmination issues in the &quot;Land of the Free&quot;. This statement from a RETIRED TAX RECEIVING (g)eneral not only points the finger at the Dutch military but at all gay service men and women in our own military. The General of the UN forces needs to speak up on behalf of this issue and make the US formally appolige to the hard working troops around the world. The Dutch are American ALLIES and do not deserve any such remarks from the GRAVE OF A (g)eneral!

&quot;God bless all the gay man and women in the United States Armed forces&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dutch are wrong here!!! The Dutch goverment should take a stand against American policy and &#8220;Human Rights&#8221;.  The Dutch goverment, Parliment and the Royal family have the opportunity now to let the world know of the discrimmination issues in the &#8220;Land of the Free&#8221;. This statement from a RETIRED TAX RECEIVING (g)eneral not only points the finger at the Dutch military but at all gay service men and women in our own military. The General of the UN forces needs to speak up on behalf of this issue and make the US formally appolige to the hard working troops around the world. The Dutch are American ALLIES and do not deserve any such remarks from the GRAVE OF A (g)eneral!</p>
<p>&#8220;God bless all the gay man and women in the United States Armed forces&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina9223</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina9223</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m retired military. Believe me, it’s not a retirement that you would think of. Your subject to recall at the discretion of the government. I have a coworker who’s ‘retired’ but back in uniform and full time Army. If while in uniform or acting in an official capacity while retired you breech the rules, regulations or laws (read UCMJ) pertaining to military service you are subject to those military rules, regulations and laws. 

Being ‘retired’ from the US Military means you still have to play by a set of rules.  Sitting in front of Congress and outright lying? That’s a big one. 

For a retired General to make a false official statement to Congress is egregious and subject to the UCMJ. “Retired”? Doesn’t matter. He’s made disparaging comments of one of our allies that is damaging to our relationship with them. The Netherlands do not nor should not do anything. Our Congress should look in to the matter and decide whether or not to censure or punish General Sheehan. 

And this only makes me more disappointed with President Obama. He keeps quoting Harry Truman’s phrase “the buck stops here” but hasn’t grasped why Truman pushed desegregation with an executive order. If Truman hadn’t we would still be having Congressional hearings on whether or not desegregation was right for the US Armed Forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m retired military. Believe me, it’s not a retirement that you would think of. Your subject to recall at the discretion of the government. I have a coworker who’s ‘retired’ but back in uniform and full time Army. If while in uniform or acting in an official capacity while retired you breech the rules, regulations or laws (read UCMJ) pertaining to military service you are subject to those military rules, regulations and laws. </p>
<p>Being ‘retired’ from the US Military means you still have to play by a set of rules.  Sitting in front of Congress and outright lying? That’s a big one. </p>
<p>For a retired General to make a false official statement to Congress is egregious and subject to the UCMJ. “Retired”? Doesn’t matter. He’s made disparaging comments of one of our allies that is damaging to our relationship with them. The Netherlands do not nor should not do anything. Our Congress should look in to the matter and decide whether or not to censure or punish General Sheehan. </p>
<p>And this only makes me more disappointed with President Obama. He keeps quoting Harry Truman’s phrase “the buck stops here” but hasn’t grasped why Truman pushed desegregation with an executive order. If Truman hadn’t we would still be having Congressional hearings on whether or not desegregation was right for the US Armed Forces.</p>
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		<title>By: rogerma</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/dutch-fuming-at-retired-us-generals-gays-comment/comment-page-2/#comment-85565</link>
		<dc:creator>rogerma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing to consider the overall concrete strength of the gays. Gays destroy marriage, just looking at a gay makes you gay. And let&#039;s not even guess what happens if you talk to a gay! Gays destroy the military serices, by making strong straight guys week like jelly. It&#039;s amazing to think what will happen when all these restrictions, for the sake of some myths, are removed from modern society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing to consider the overall concrete strength of the gays. Gays destroy marriage, just looking at a gay makes you gay. And let&#8217;s not even guess what happens if you talk to a gay! Gays destroy the military serices, by making strong straight guys week like jelly. It&#8217;s amazing to think what will happen when all these restrictions, for the sake of some myths, are removed from modern society.</p>
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		<title>By: Terryinindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryinindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Dutch Prime Minister had any actual RESPECT for the service members that served, he would openly call for an APOLOGY.
Tolerance of this kind of intolerance is unacceptable, even from those we consider to be allies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Dutch Prime Minister had any actual RESPECT for the service members that served, he would openly call for an APOLOGY.<br />
Tolerance of this kind of intolerance is unacceptable, even from those we consider to be allies.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Thomas Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father Thomas Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are any of us truly surprised that something like this can be said. Should we not be more inured to the ignorance and even maliciousness of people that will stop at nothing to have their way.  I begin to wonder where the fine line between evil and just plain old stupitidy. This man actually made it to the rank of General and led troops?  Now that&#039;s the scary part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are any of us truly surprised that something like this can be said. Should we not be more inured to the ignorance and even maliciousness of people that will stop at nothing to have their way.  I begin to wonder where the fine line between evil and just plain old stupitidy. This man actually made it to the rank of General and led troops?  Now that&#8217;s the scary part.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did General Sheehan make his statements under oath?  If so, then it is clear he has perjured himself and he should be charged with that crime.

Furthermore, as the General should know, both Canada and the United Kingdom have allowed open and honest Lesbians and Gay Men to serve in their armed forces for some time-- without any negative effects.

During World War II, General Dwight Eisenhower gave an order for Lesbians and Gay Men to be named with the idea of discharging them.  When he discovered two of his key aides were Lesbians, he immediately gave a new order to disregard his previous order.  The fact is that LGBT people have been members of the armed forces of the United States since there were United States Armed Forces.  Unfortunately, laws have compelled them to lie in order to serve their country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did General Sheehan make his statements under oath?  If so, then it is clear he has perjured himself and he should be charged with that crime.</p>
<p>Furthermore, as the General should know, both Canada and the United Kingdom have allowed open and honest Lesbians and Gay Men to serve in their armed forces for some time&#8211; without any negative effects.</p>
<p>During World War II, General Dwight Eisenhower gave an order for Lesbians and Gay Men to be named with the idea of discharging them.  When he discovered two of his key aides were Lesbians, he immediately gave a new order to disregard his previous order.  The fact is that LGBT people have been members of the armed forces of the United States since there were United States Armed Forces.  Unfortunately, laws have compelled them to lie in order to serve their country.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drewski,

Agreed. Now some of our allies may become reluctant to support us when we need it in far away lands. And that puts our men in danger. Sheehan needs to be barred from ever again testifying at armed services hearings as a disgrace and a disservice to our country. The  world is watching us on TV and knows what is said about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drewski,</p>
<p>Agreed. Now some of our allies may become reluctant to support us when we need it in far away lands. And that puts our men in danger. Sheehan needs to be barred from ever again testifying at armed services hearings as a disgrace and a disservice to our country. The  world is watching us on TV and knows what is said about it.</p>
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		<title>By: JonnyBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonnyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed that you all don&#039;t seem to realize that gays and lesbians have contributed to all major tragedies in the past.  There were gay people in the concentration camps in Germany - obviously Jews were only killed because of the gay presence.  Rome collapsed which led to the dark ages only AFTER homosexual practices were rampant in the society!  The Twin Towers had gay people in them - they were only bombed because of the homosexuals!!!

Wake up, people!  Gays are causing the decline of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed that you all don&#8217;t seem to realize that gays and lesbians have contributed to all major tragedies in the past.  There were gay people in the concentration camps in Germany &#8211; obviously Jews were only killed because of the gay presence.  Rome collapsed which led to the dark ages only AFTER homosexual practices were rampant in the society!  The Twin Towers had gay people in them &#8211; they were only bombed because of the homosexuals!!!</p>
<p>Wake up, people!  Gays are causing the decline of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: KaninZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaninZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The homophobes wanted a spokesman with military cred. They got crud.

  My thanks and hats off to our allies in the Netherlands for standing up to this dimwit and not allowing him to use you for undocumented hearsay.

  Unless Sheehan or his handlers can produce documented proof that supports his claims, he&#039;s just a barracks politition bumping his gums and lying to the American people to advance his own un-American agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The homophobes wanted a spokesman with military cred. They got crud.</p>
<p>  My thanks and hats off to our allies in the Netherlands for standing up to this dimwit and not allowing him to use you for undocumented hearsay.</p>
<p>  Unless Sheehan or his handlers can produce documented proof that supports his claims, he&#8217;s just a barracks politition bumping his gums and lying to the American people to advance his own un-American agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan--absolutely right, sir!

The Dutch were already likely to pull out of Afghanistan.  Now this bonehead opens his mouth and slams a longtime ally, which also makes it that much more likely that US exposure in Afghanistan will become worse.  More casualties.  Sheehan--retired for thirteen years--has pretty much just told one of our allies to pound salt (or paint their toenails, as he would have it).

Somebody needs to make a formal apology to the Dutch government and people.  NOW.  Whether it&#039;s the President somebody else, they need to apologize for allowing Sheehan to wander away from the assisted living facility.

There is one good thing to this.  Bama-stu mentioned that there are a good number of high-ranking military staff who think gays will hurt the military.  Most of them seem to have enough functioning brain cells that they don&#039;t mouth off about it.  Sheehan made such an ass of himself that anybody else following him who opposes gays in the military is going to come off as being another wackadoo.  It isn&#039;t easy to find somebody who can not only advance your point by making the opposition look bigoted and insane, but also manages to create an ill-timed and exceedingly embarrassing international incident in the process.  And he did all this as a retiree!  Oh--almost forgot--he did all this AND pretty much put American military personnel in Afghanistan in even greater danger.  Isn&#039;t that verging on treason (giving aid to the enemy)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan&#8211;absolutely right, sir!</p>
<p>The Dutch were already likely to pull out of Afghanistan.  Now this bonehead opens his mouth and slams a longtime ally, which also makes it that much more likely that US exposure in Afghanistan will become worse.  More casualties.  Sheehan&#8211;retired for thirteen years&#8211;has pretty much just told one of our allies to pound salt (or paint their toenails, as he would have it).</p>
<p>Somebody needs to make a formal apology to the Dutch government and people.  NOW.  Whether it&#8217;s the President somebody else, they need to apologize for allowing Sheehan to wander away from the assisted living facility.</p>
<p>There is one good thing to this.  Bama-stu mentioned that there are a good number of high-ranking military staff who think gays will hurt the military.  Most of them seem to have enough functioning brain cells that they don&#8217;t mouth off about it.  Sheehan made such an ass of himself that anybody else following him who opposes gays in the military is going to come off as being another wackadoo.  It isn&#8217;t easy to find somebody who can not only advance your point by making the opposition look bigoted and insane, but also manages to create an ill-timed and exceedingly embarrassing international incident in the process.  And he did all this as a retiree!  Oh&#8211;almost forgot&#8211;he did all this AND pretty much put American military personnel in Afghanistan in even greater danger.  Isn&#8217;t that verging on treason (giving aid to the enemy)?</p>
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