Comments on: Drag Mary angers Dutch Christians http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:48:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jonny http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37562 Jonny Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:16:32 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37562 Do I detect a hint of the Pots and kettles syndrome coming from these Christians? Not a week ago their leader attacked gays just out of the blue and denied it, the minute we do anything they are quick to judge and condemn us all to hell?? And here's me thinking Christians were the ones preaching forgiveness Hypocritical to the point of nausea Do I detect a hint of the Pots and kettles syndrome coming from these Christians? Not a week ago their leader attacked gays just out of the blue and denied it, the minute we do anything they are quick to judge and condemn us all to hell?? And here’s me thinking Christians were the ones preaching forgiveness Hypocritical to the point of nausea

]]> By: drewski http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37218 drewski Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:08:22 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37218 Trace, there are those who'd say it's similarly apocalyptic to depict Mary as a drag queen. The Danish cartoons were just that--cartoons. When religious imagery is sacrosanct, it leads to the death of the spirit. Another example: remember all the people picketing theaters when "Last Temptation of Christ" came out, 20 years ago? I finally saw it years later--and if there was ever a movie that could induce me to cultivate a spiritual interest in Christianity, that was it. But it was "blasphemous" --not if you paid attention to the movie. Nobody is going to evaporate or be Raptured by a humorous or even rude depiction of a religious image. Back on the Mohammed cartoons, have you ever noticed that Islam is the culture that preserved ancient knowledge and later transferred it to lice-ridden European monks, but today it's Islam in a wretched state? It's not because Islam is wretched, because that's not true; it's because a few people who are fearful and controlling have got hold of Islam, and so far it's had nothing like the Reformation, nothing like the full scope of freely-held views that you find in other religions. People who are aggressively "Christian"-identified are no different, and they scare me more than any mullah or ayatollah ever will. Trace, there are those who’d say it’s similarly apocalyptic to depict Mary as a drag queen. The Danish cartoons were just that–cartoons. When religious imagery is sacrosanct, it leads to the death of the spirit. Another example: remember all the people picketing theaters when “Last Temptation of Christ” came out, 20 years ago? I finally saw it years later–and if there was ever a movie that could induce me to cultivate a spiritual interest in Christianity, that was it. But it was “blasphemous” –not if you paid attention to the movie. Nobody is going to evaporate or be Raptured by a humorous or even rude depiction of a religious image. Back on the Mohammed cartoons, have you ever noticed that Islam is the culture that preserved ancient knowledge and later transferred it to lice-ridden European monks, but today it’s Islam in a wretched state? It’s not because Islam is wretched, because that’s not true; it’s because a few people who are fearful and controlling have got hold of Islam, and so far it’s had nothing like the Reformation, nothing like the full scope of freely-held views that you find in other religions. People who are aggressively “Christian”-identified are no different, and they scare me more than any mullah or ayatollah ever will.

]]> By: Gerry Fisher http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37115 Gerry Fisher Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:24:30 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37115 >“By portraying Joseph and Mary as homosexuals, a twisted human fantasy is being added to the history of the Bible".... Yeah, the Bible--with its contradictory accounts, accounts that go against science, support of brutal punishment, support of slavery, and support of oppressing women--is not a twisted human fantasy itself? What's wrong with replacing one fantasy with another? What's wrong with creatively working off of an original story, changing parts of it, to create a new story? (These are rhetorical questions. ;-) ) >“By portraying Joseph and Mary as homosexuals, a twisted human fantasy is being added to the history of the Bible”….

Yeah, the Bible–with its contradictory accounts, accounts that go against science, support of brutal punishment, support of slavery, and support of oppressing women–is not a twisted human fantasy itself? What’s wrong with replacing one fantasy with another? What’s wrong with creatively working off of an original story, changing parts of it, to create a new story?

(These are rhetorical questions. ;-) )

]]> By: Dan http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37109 Dan Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:08:37 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37109 Christians for Truth, if they are for truth, should first of all acknowledge the multitude of "sinners" and "heretics" that the traditional churches have killed over the centuries, and all the lies they have told the people. Christians for Truth, if they are for truth, should first of all acknowledge the multitude of “sinners” and “heretics” that the traditional churches have killed over the centuries, and all the lies they have told the people.

]]> By: Trace http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37088 Trace Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:39:32 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37088 drewski, I believe that the issue with the Mohamed cartoons was the bombings, beatings and murders associated with the Muslim "outrage." drewski, I believe that the issue with the Mohamed cartoons was the bombings, beatings and murders associated with the Muslim “outrage.”

]]> By: drewski http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37084 drewski Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:19:28 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37084 Now wait...I seem to recall that when a Danish paper had pix of Muhammed, there were many Westerners who said it was so much nonsense. Here come people in a Western country and they wanna be offended by a depiction of Mary (and Joseph). If Muslims are expected to suck it up, why aren't the good christians? Now wait…I seem to recall that when a Danish paper had pix of Muhammed, there were many Westerners who said it was so much nonsense. Here come people in a Western country and they wanna be offended by a depiction of Mary (and Joseph). If Muslims are expected to suck it up, why aren’t the good christians?

]]> By: Jason21TX http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-37079 Jason21TX Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:41:08 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-37079 Who is going to go into business making or selling crosses of which the 4 pieces actually look like dildos. Given the monstrosity the Catholic church has been throughout history - they would do hitler proud, and he was born a catholic by the way, it would be a proper symbol. And a proper symbol for the right wing christians who forgot about the so called reformation, and took the old baggage with them. The proper name of Christmas should be Xmas, with the emphasis on the X. Who is going to go into business making or selling crosses of which the 4 pieces actually look like dildos.

Given the monstrosity the Catholic church has been throughout history – they would do hitler proud, and he was born a catholic by the way, it would be a proper symbol. And a proper symbol for the right wing christians who forgot about the so called reformation, and took the old baggage with them.

The proper name of Christmas should be
Xmas, with the emphasis on the X.

]]> By: Isaac http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-36990 Isaac Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:44:22 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-36990 Of course it's an affront to "traditional Christian values". Absolutely no question of it. That was kind of the point, wasn't it? The objective may not have been to cause offense, but only an idiot would not consider the possibility that devout Christians would be offended. Then again, those same Christians are offended by our very existence, so I don't give a flying fuck. Of course it’s an affront to “traditional Christian values”. Absolutely no question of it. That was kind of the point, wasn’t it? The objective may not have been to cause offense, but only an idiot would not consider the possibility that devout Christians would be offended.

Then again, those same Christians are offended by our very existence, so I don’t give a flying fuck.

]]> By: Leo http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-36978 Leo Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:00:15 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-36978 The Christmas Fairy-tale is a Myth. The Christmas Fairy-tale is a Myth.

]]> By: Rachel http://www.365gay.com/news/drag-mary-angers-dutch-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-36884 Rachel Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:00:47 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4658#comment-36884 Christians are offended? And why was it that I should care? Christians are offended? And why was it that I should care?

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