November 22nd, 2009
 

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DC gay marriage debate moves issue to black community


(Washington) In the District of Columbia, where African-Americans are the majority and black congregations dominate, the recent vote to recognize same-sex marriages may signal the gay rights movement is making inroads among groups traditionally opposed to it.

With this month’s vote, Washington became the first place in the U.S. with a majority of black residents to take up the issue. Congress still has the final say over the district’s laws, but gay rights activists now have reason to believe that strong opposition is gradually giving way to more acceptance, despite a forceful outcry by some black churches.

The issue is particularly complex in D.C., where nearly 60 percent of the residents are African-American. Of the five states that allow gay marriage – Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts and Vermont – none has such a large makeup of blacks.

Activist Donna Payne knows just how complex the issue is for the black community.

A black preacher once told her she would be accepted into his church under one condition – that she didn’t tell anyone she was a lesbian. Payne said keeping quiet wasn’t possible.

“That’s the conundrum in the African-American community,” Payne said. “They don’t want to talk about it, but they know you’re there.”

The influence of black churches was evident as the D.C. Council debated whether to recognize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. As more than 100 mostly black protesters gathered outside city hall, council member Marion Barry, a longtime supporter of gay rights, rejected the measure and sided with ministers who he said “stand on the moral compass of God.”

But Yvette Alexander, who also represents a majority-black ward, gave her support and accused some ministers of doubting her faith.

“They have questioned my Christianity. They have questioned my morality,” she said. Then, addressing the pastors, Alexander said: “Everyone is equal under God, and there are a lot in the gay community that are at your very churches, in your congregations.”

Although black churches tend to be socially progressive and have a history of fighting for equal rights, most are theologically conservative, believing that scripture condemns homosexuality, said Anthony B. Pinn, a professor of religious studies at Rice University.

They also view gay marriage as a threat to the traditional black family, which is struggling with high divorce and low marriage rates, he said.

“From their perspective, anything that runs contradictory to that understanding of the nuclear family poses a threat,” Pinn said.

It was amid this backdrop that Barry, who served four terms as mayor, declared “we may have a civil war” after the vote. He was the only council member out of 13 to oppose the measure.

Barry wasn’t the only one using such strong rhetoric.

“I am convinced that this is going to be the Armageddon of the marriage debate,” said Harry Jackson, a black bishop who has organized rallies opposing gay marriage and has been a national voice for conservative Christians on the issue.

Jackson, who lives in Washington and leads a church in Beltsville, Md., said he plans to lead a multiracial group of pastors from around the country to Capitol Hill this week to urge lawmakers to intervene in D.C.’s decision.

Congress has until July to review the measure. If it takes no action, the legislation becomes law automatically and could be a step toward allowing gay marriages to be performed in Washington – an effort the D.C. Council intends to take on later this year.

Despite Barry and Jackson’s claims, there’s evidence the city isn’t as split on gay marriage as some suggest. Of the 12 council members who voted in favor of the gay-marriage bill, six are black.

A group of Democrats in the primarily black ward that Barry represents voted 21 to 11 to support same-sex marriage legislation over the weekend. And Washington has a history of supporting gay rights; the city passed a law in 1992 recognizing domestic partnerships.

Local gay advocates have accused critics of framing the debate as one led by rich, white gay men forcing the issue on working class black residents.

“They’re trying to whip up hysteria and use race and class issues to divide the city,” said Michael Crawford, who is black and chairs the advocacy group D.C. for Marriage.

Meanwhile, a multiracial group of gay and straight D.C. pastors are drafting a letter in support of gay marriage and urging respectful dialogue. Other gay advocates are distributing pamphlets and holding discussions to educate people on why they think it’s important that gays have the same protections as straight, married couples.

It’s difficult to know how the issue would fare today in Washington if put to a popular vote – as opponents would like. A 2006 poll of likely D.C. voters found most would oppose an initiative defining marriage as between a man and woman. White residents were most strongly against such an initiative, but 49 percent of blacks were for it.

For Shaun Allende, 27, a D.C. resident who will be at the city’s annual Black Pride event this weekend, marriage has little do with the wedding ceremony.

“It’s about the rights and privileges that people who fall in love and make that commitment are garnered when they are married,” said Allende, who is black and Hispanic.


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  • Dan Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
    • @ Michellle: for whatever reason, you continue to disregard what I’m actually saying and “respond” to comments I never made. I didn’t say you were nitpicking. I said you responded to what I clearly labeled “an aside” and ignored the substantive comments that I made.

      Now, you act as if I’ve criticized the quality of Rice University when in fact I said that its academics are strong. And you posted a link that doesn’t address any of my comments, except perhaps to support my positive view of Rice’s academics.

      If you had really posted to paint a fuller picture of Rice, there would be no reason to direct your comment to me, since I focused on a different topic. I also didn’t say that the article takes a narrow view, that same-sex marriage in DC is insignificant – I think the opposite – or that it is somehow insulting to suggest that DC is important.

      I suggest that you get clear about your real reasons for posting so oddly. If you have difficulty replying logically to other people’s comments, you can simply disregard them and post your own separate opinions about the article. The other posters have a right to read relevant remarks, not your sniping at me and my having to point out that I didn’t make the comments that you seem to think I made.

  • LOrion Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    • NOTE: If you didn’t know. Terrance is a black gay man, married to a white gay man. and they have two sons raising from birth! One is now 6 or 7 other just a year or so.

      Read his blog, if you are interested in this topic..and it is only part 1.
      THE MASTERS Tools
      tinyurl.com/pneapn

  • LOrion Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    • Here is link to a commentary… fairly lengthy, as usual, from ‘TerranceDC’.. He discusses how NOV 4 felt and why he was silent until now.

      re.WASH DC. .BLACK Homophbia…with discussions of history, books, new items from DC Churches etc…. and it is only Part 1.

      ” THE MASTERS TOOLS:
      tinyurl.com/pneapn

  • April Morris Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    • Quincy Shameless(and shame you should feel)
      okay did you not get my point about how religion does play into this point. and i was not there so do i get thrown under the bus b/c i am black. gay or not you people do throw minorities under the bus to get laws passed and it is just not fair or right.

  • John Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 am
    • Can you speak for closeted White men? They exist ya know

      —–

      They not only exist. They’re quite dangerous. And I mean that in the quite literal “bodily harm” sort of way.

      If we were to accept the reporting of hate crimes and incidents of intolerance on this website as an accurate reflection of America, then we can only come to two conclusions. Black homophobia tends to result in lots of hurt feelings. White homophobia tends to result in lots of body bags.

  • drewski Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 am
    • So it looks like some of us gays have allowed a few black demagogues to blind us to the truth of black DC. It would be bigoted of non-black gays to allow a few bitter voices to lead us to demonize others. Sounds like maybe we need to listen less to polls and preachers, and do more to listen to our neighbors wherever we are. What’s directed at us has been or can be directed at any other minority, and vice versa.

  • Michellle N Said: May 22nd, 2009 at 12:06 am
    • @ Dan, I don’t think suggesting that your comments about Rice were misleading is nit picking.

      Rice is like many other campuses across America and is an Island of diversity and liberalism despite the zip code. I wanted to paint a more realistic view of Rice, it is a very good school that just happens to be in Houston. And while it has a healthy endowment a significant amount of funds are offered as merit and need based scholarships to the student body. It is considered one of the best values among private schools.
      http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1318/is_9_53/ai_55468002/?tag=content;col1

      But more to my point of re-posting, while this article is focused on gay marriage in DC it takes on a much larger picture. Hence the quotes from Dr Finn. And in that context, gay marriage in DC is extremely significant. As big or bigger than Iowa. And I don’t feel that is insulting to anybody.

  • Jonathan Said: May 21st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    • george Said:
      I would like to hear from some gay black men. I would also like the issue of being ‘on the down low’ and what that means about homophobia in the black community.
      ======================
      Black Gay OUT man here.

      I could answer by saying “I would also like the issue of being ‘on the down low’ and what that means about homophobia in the white community.” I’m not interested in making racially charged comments that have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

      I will answer by saying, I can’t speak for closeted Black Men. Can you speak for closeted White men? They exist ya know

  • Dan Said: May 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
    • @ “Michellle”: I was clear that my comment about Rice University was “an aside.” The fact that you didn’t mention my points about the issues themselves suggests that, for some reason, you were more interested in criticizing me than actually discussing the subjects at hand.

      I also didn’t suggest that Dr. Pinn was unqualified to discuss the subject. As far as Rice having a diverse student body, only one ethnic minority has substantial representation: Asians, who were 19.2% of undergraduates and 8.4% of graduate students in 2007-2008, the most recent year presented on their website. It’s true that there are many international students, but their race isn’t shown. African Americans are sharply underrepresented at only 6.8% of undergraduates and just 3.7% of graduate students.

      I don’t mean to suggest that Rice is academically weak. It’s actually one of the academically stronger universities in the country in several fields. And your point about Dr. Pinn is well taken. I just think we do better to constructively address our common goals than to snipe at each other or at other demographic groups.

  • Michellle N Said: May 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
    • @ Dan said, it seems odd that they quoted a professor at Rice University, a conservative, largely white, expensive private university in Texas

      Your generalization of Rice is misleading. It has a very diverse and International student body and faculty. It’s rated second by Princeton Review in “Lots of Race/Class Interaction”

      And while I don’t know Dr Finn, a web search indicates he obtained his PhD from Harvard and his work focuses on liberation theology, Black religion, and Black humanism. He seems fairly qualified to speak on such subjects.

  • April Morris Said: May 21st, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    • stop w/ the misleading stats and tell the truth. not everyone will agree w/ you so cast out an entire group of people that is completely ignorant and naive of you all to say such things. Dan here has clearly made a valid point but everyone seems to not want to hear the truth but listen to the beat of the own ignorance. people we are seriously not going to get anywhere if we ostracize people and express racist view points in order to create laws that is simply not going to happen.

  • April Morris Said: May 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
    • I believe Brian is right 100% thanks for the comment : )

 
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