Court rejects challenge to ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’
06.08.2009 10:19am EDT
(Washington) The Supreme Court on Monday agreed with the Obama administration and refused to review Pentagon policy barring gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.
The court said it will not hear an appeal from former Army Capt. James Pietrangelo II, who was dismissed under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.The federal appeals court in Boston earlier threw out a lawsuit filed by Pietrangelo and 11 other veterans. He was the only member of that group who asked the high court to rule that the Clinton-era policy is unconstitutional.
“I think this decision is an absolute travesty of justice and I think every judge on this court should be ashamed of themselves,” said Pietrangelo, who served six years in the Army, seven years in the Vermont National Guard and fought in Iraq in 1991. “It’s nothing short of rubber stamping legalized discrimination, the same way Nazi Germany legalized discrimination against Jews.
“The Supreme Court is not infallible, they get things wrong, and they got it wrong this time,” he said.
During last year’s campaign, President Barack Obama indicated he supported the eventual repeal of the policy, but he has made no specific move to do so since taking office in January. Meanwhile, the White House has said it won’t stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military.
In court papers, the administration said the appeals court ruled correctly in this case when it found that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is “rationally related to the government’s legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion.”
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman referred requests for comment to the Justice Department, but said the military policy “implements the law.”
“The law requires the (Defense) Department to separate from the armed services members who engage in or attempt to engage in homosexual acts; state they are homosexual or bisexual; or marry or attempt to marry a person of the same biological sex,” Whitman said in a statement.
A legal advocacy group vowed to press ahead with efforts to reverse the policy despite the legal setback.
“We don’t see that at all as bad news for repeal,” said Kevin Nix, spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. “What happened today puts the ball back into the court of Congress and the White House to repeal the law, and that’s where we think it should be right now.”
Nix said there are no objective studies showing unit cohesion, morale and order are harmed by openly gay people.
“There are people out there and still serving, and the unit is not crumbling beneath their feet,” he said, adding that attitudes among troops and society are far different than they were in the 1990s when the policy was instituted.
“Times have changed … fast forward 16 years,” Nix said. “The service members in Iraq and Afghanistan – their attitudes toward gay people are very different than some retired generals in their 50s and 60s who served in the 20th Century. It’s a different world.”
Opposition to gay marriages, for example, has eased nationwide and six states have legalized same-sex unions. New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont and Iowa allow gay marriage, though opponents hope to overturn Maine’s law with a public vote.
Polls show younger Americans are far are more tolerant of gay marriage than are older generations.
Pietrangelo, who was in the Vermont National Guard at the time of his discharge in 2004, said politicization of the issue is the only option left.
“We need political agitation, we need to make it a civil rights issue,” he said. “Gay America needs to wake up and realize we have no options other than to march on Washington D.C. until America feels enough shame to change something.
“What it’s going to take is 30 million gay Americans getting off their butts and standing in front of the White House demanding gay quality,” said Pietrangelo, who has since moved back to his native Ohio.
The “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was established in 1993. President Bill Clinton had to abandon efforts to allow gays to serve openly in the armed forces after facing strong resistance from the military and members of Congress.
Last year, the federal appeals court in San Francisco allowed a decorated flight nurse to continue her lawsuit over her dismissal. The court stopped short of declaring the policy unconstitutional, but said that the Air Force must prove that ousting former Maj. Margaret Witt furthered the military’s goals of troop readiness and unit cohesion.
The decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was the first that evaluated “don’t ask, don’t tell” through the lens of a 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down a Texas ban on sodomy as an unconstitutional intrusion on privacy.
The administration did not appeal that ruling to the Supreme Court and Witt’s lawsuit is ongoing.
The appeals court in Pietrangelo’s case also took the high court decision into account, but concluded that it should defer to Congress’ determination that the policy fosters cohesion in military units.
The case is Pietrangelo v. Gates, 08-824.




Todd – which goes to show you what a ridulous policy it really is. Besides, the military doesn’t need you to have engaged in homosexual activity in order to bring charges against you. God, what an grotsque embarassment this policy is on our country and what a tragic insult to all the gay people currently serving.
Maybe someone “out there” knows someone in government who can answer a very simple question: why are other countries able to allow homosexuals to openly serve in their military successfully and our military cannot?
I have asked my congressman, Brad Sherman, this question twice, unsuccesfully. I have sent emails to Obama and have received no answer. No one in government seems to be able to address this question. Is this rocket science? Maybe our so-called leaders in the various gay organization could put this question to government and demand an answer. You think?
“..but until then let’s remain our sexual orientation underground.”
That is in violation of military policy. You aren’t suppose to engage in any same-sex sexual activity while in the armed forces, regardless if you are on or off base, in private or not. It specifically states that in the armed forces policy in regard to homosexuality.
Obama is showing his true colors and can I say “Told You So” @Sue I didn’t vote for Obama. I hope in the next elections that the GLBT will vote for a person thats on our side and means it. Not all talk and no action.
Nader 2012′
Nikki<—I agree DADT should be unconstitutional. I’m a gay soldier who keeps to myself. Nobody has ever assumed or ask that I possibly could be gay. Since I’m a single 21yo male and haven’t dated or have sex with anyone while in the military, DADT law doesn’t bother me at all. I’m not looking to date while in the military until my time is up. When you’re a gay soldier, you have to respect DADT law and if necessary hide any evidence and or deny of your sexual orientation if you want to continue. If you have a significant lover before joining the military, my opinion is best to advise not to join the military or end your relationship first before joining so you can fulfill your dreams to be a successful soldier. Everybody is different, that’s what I believe and I respect all current laws, until laws get challenge to be ruled unconstitutional.
Chris Sullivan,
The Supreme Court has a lot of backbone. If by ‘backbone’ you mean ’strings tied to the Popes fingers…’
I have a very long memory; I’ll show my displeasure at the voting booth in 2012.
58% of conservatives now want DADT repealed. How much of a majority do you need?
> Well, all you glbt fools who voted for Obama! Thanks for nothing…
Sue, if you think you would be doing any better under McCain, think again. We may have a long way to go for equality issues, yes, but we are far, far better today on everything else than we would be with McCain/Palin in power.
Quick bickering about the past and focus on the future. Think about how we can change his mind and his attitude by working TOGETHER.
It’s a ridiculous policy and an embarassment to the entire country.
“the administration said the appeals court ruled correctly in this case when it found that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is “rationally related to the government’s legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion.””
Then explain countries like Canada, the UK, Australia, Israel, Uruguay and others that allow gays to serve openly and have ABSOLUTELY NO DISCIPLINE AND COHESION PROBLEMS!!!!
Clearly President Obama has sold out to the Conservatives on this issue in order to further his goals on issues like the economy. We are an unpopular minority, with no voice of power in the government (yet!) therefore it is easy for people like Obama to ignore us and break their promises without worrying about reprisals.
It is time for us to join together, despite our many differences, and show him/them just how wrong that thinking is. It is time for TRUE equality in this country, true enforcement of the Constitution not just the popular interpretation of it.
to mark b. some people join the military because it has been their dream to serve their country, but their dream did not include being scrutinized for who they love and what they do in the privacy of their homes. being a fiance to someone in the military is hard enough, but then add in the fact that people like my fiance and myself have to hide who we are because a small group of people don’t like it (hmm sounds like the civil rights act doesn’t it?)its complete crap. DADT doesn’t only force military personnel to hide who they are and lie to their superioor officers, but it also forces their partners to hide and lie as well. not to mention when military personnel have to serve oveseas they are allowed to bring their wives/husbands/children, but if that person just so happens to be gay their life partner can’t move with them… yet another load of crap. so, if you really think military personnel who are gay should hide who they are and how they feel, try living not only in their shoes but in the shoes of their partners. and think of how it must feel to have to constantly hide who you are (especially when you’re as out and proud as i am) and how much you truely love someone just because some people are ignorant, hardheaded, and full of hate for people who are different than themselves (even though we’re not all that different)
DON’T ASK DON’T TELL MUST BE REPEALED!!!
I forget…is he playing chess now or is he working toward something that unites us all? I get lost so easily on this stuff.
The only way this policy could possible “foster cohesion” is if the troops all band together in their hate for members of the GLBT community.
Well, all you glbt fools who voted for Obama! Thanks for nothing…