Court rejects challenge to ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’
06.08.2009 10:19am EDT
(Washington) The Supreme Court on Monday agreed with the Obama administration and refused to review Pentagon policy barring gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.
The court said it will not hear an appeal from former Army Capt. James Pietrangelo II, who was dismissed under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.The federal appeals court in Boston earlier threw out a lawsuit filed by Pietrangelo and 11 other veterans. He was the only member of that group who asked the high court to rule that the Clinton-era policy is unconstitutional.
“I think this decision is an absolute travesty of justice and I think every judge on this court should be ashamed of themselves,” said Pietrangelo, who served six years in the Army, seven years in the Vermont National Guard and fought in Iraq in 1991. “It’s nothing short of rubber stamping legalized discrimination, the same way Nazi Germany legalized discrimination against Jews.
“The Supreme Court is not infallible, they get things wrong, and they got it wrong this time,” he said.
During last year’s campaign, President Barack Obama indicated he supported the eventual repeal of the policy, but he has made no specific move to do so since taking office in January. Meanwhile, the White House has said it won’t stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military.
In court papers, the administration said the appeals court ruled correctly in this case when it found that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is “rationally related to the government’s legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion.”
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman referred requests for comment to the Justice Department, but said the military policy “implements the law.”
“The law requires the (Defense) Department to separate from the armed services members who engage in or attempt to engage in homosexual acts; state they are homosexual or bisexual; or marry or attempt to marry a person of the same biological sex,” Whitman said in a statement.
A legal advocacy group vowed to press ahead with efforts to reverse the policy despite the legal setback.
“We don’t see that at all as bad news for repeal,” said Kevin Nix, spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. “What happened today puts the ball back into the court of Congress and the White House to repeal the law, and that’s where we think it should be right now.”
Nix said there are no objective studies showing unit cohesion, morale and order are harmed by openly gay people.
“There are people out there and still serving, and the unit is not crumbling beneath their feet,” he said, adding that attitudes among troops and society are far different than they were in the 1990s when the policy was instituted.
“Times have changed … fast forward 16 years,” Nix said. “The service members in Iraq and Afghanistan – their attitudes toward gay people are very different than some retired generals in their 50s and 60s who served in the 20th Century. It’s a different world.”
Opposition to gay marriages, for example, has eased nationwide and six states have legalized same-sex unions. New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont and Iowa allow gay marriage, though opponents hope to overturn Maine’s law with a public vote.
Polls show younger Americans are far are more tolerant of gay marriage than are older generations.
Pietrangelo, who was in the Vermont National Guard at the time of his discharge in 2004, said politicization of the issue is the only option left.
“We need political agitation, we need to make it a civil rights issue,” he said. “Gay America needs to wake up and realize we have no options other than to march on Washington D.C. until America feels enough shame to change something.
“What it’s going to take is 30 million gay Americans getting off their butts and standing in front of the White House demanding gay quality,” said Pietrangelo, who has since moved back to his native Ohio.
The “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was established in 1993. President Bill Clinton had to abandon efforts to allow gays to serve openly in the armed forces after facing strong resistance from the military and members of Congress.
Last year, the federal appeals court in San Francisco allowed a decorated flight nurse to continue her lawsuit over her dismissal. The court stopped short of declaring the policy unconstitutional, but said that the Air Force must prove that ousting former Maj. Margaret Witt furthered the military’s goals of troop readiness and unit cohesion.
The decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was the first that evaluated “don’t ask, don’t tell” through the lens of a 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down a Texas ban on sodomy as an unconstitutional intrusion on privacy.
The administration did not appeal that ruling to the Supreme Court and Witt’s lawsuit is ongoing.
The appeals court in Pietrangelo’s case also took the high court decision into account, but concluded that it should defer to Congress’ determination that the policy fosters cohesion in military units.
The case is Pietrangelo v. Gates, 08-824.





Well there are some strongholds to torn down, before the fear which has prevailed for so long holding folk in the dark can be removed and allow so many who have been waiting to be able to “walk in the light”. “For we wrestle not….”.
Wow, that OBAMA is really doing LOTS OF GREAT THINGS FOR US, ISN’T HE?
Bravo justices, bravo. But I guess thanks to CA the 14th and 5th amendments mean absolutely nothing now so I guess you were just going by what the minority of bigots think, since over 70% of the country finds this policy an absolute joke.
It’s funny really, when they uphold the constitution and give us out long delayed and denied rights they are called activist. When they continue to discriminate or uphold a slim majority vote to strip us of our rights, they are called good judges.
Anyone here ever wonder of such a thing called a parallel universe. One side is order the other is chaos, good or evil. Even though this is nothing more than mythology, sometimes you get that feeling that we live in the chaotic evil world of utter insanity. but… then again when you add religion into anything you always get insane chaos.
Our current Supreme Court has no backbone.
Overturning DADT should be a priority as it mandates discrimination and teaches prejudice, using our tax dollars to marginalize and stigmatize us. The only way to overturn it is through congress. I hope everyone has contacted their representatives and urged them to support repeal and move repeal to Obama’s desk. Also contact him and urge him to lead on this issue, as he promised. We should be teaching acceptance instead of discrimination.
I supported Obama (after Hillary lost) and had high hopes for him. Unfortunately, I am increasingly viewing him as a hypocritical opportunist.
My concern about doing away with “don’t ask, don’t tell”, would be that there might be more violence within the ranks. I do want everyone to be out of the closet.
Any unit leader worth his salt knows full well how to keep his ranks in line. Other countries have had no problem with not having this policy anymore (Canada, UK, Isreal etc.) but the greatest military in the world falls to bits because another guy is gay? Sounds more like a bunch of the old timers who still indulge their personal homophobia are responsible and since they by and large are the ones in charge right now, this stance is unsurprising. Sadly, like other areas of gay rites, we may just need to wait for the old folks to die off and their views to die with them.
What I found most unbelievable is that the Obama administration asked the Supreme Court to dismiss the appeal, essentially defending the ban. How can anyone believe that Obama is our friend now? He is a self-serving liar.
When you’re gay and you join the military, no need to complain when getting discharge, because you already know in advance before joining what to expect under DADT. File the lawsuit challenging DADT first or wait until the law gets struck down by the government and then join the military second. If you can’t wait, but want to join the military now, don’t be like the others complaining afterwards due to discharge under DADT. When the law comes down, then we all can come out of the military closet, but until then let’s remain our sexual orientation underground.
Well, this is very disappointing. I’m disappointed more in the Obama Administration than in the Court, though. The “rational basis” test is the easiest for the government to pass. There is no need to question the motives or even whether the policy is desireable. Rather, all the government has to do is show that the policy rationally relates to a legitimate governmental interest. The legitimate governmental interest here is good order and discipline in the military services. While I don’t think DADT rationally relates to that interest, apparently, the Court and the Administration believe it does relate, and that’s all they have to show.
I think the Witt case may be a bit stronger, though, because there is an effort to force the government to show, through current objective criteria, that being a lesbian or gay servicemember undermines order and discipline. The Pietrangelo case, it seems, relied on the substantial body of information gathered in the early 1990s showing that homosexual servicemembers undermine order and discipline. A lot has changed since then.
And although it is the duty of the Justice Department to defend the current laws, I still find it disgraceful that the Administration talks the talk, but fails miserably to walk the walk, at least in this instance.
Screw Obama. It’s one thing to be inactive. It’s completely another fricken game when you block it. This is probably one of the only times in this country’s history that people don’t care if you give more rights to gays, because there’s so much other stuff going on! Until that a-hole does SOMETHING to address inequalities, he and every other spineless democrat isn’t getting my vote.
So Mark, how about the gay and lesbians who are outed without their knowledge or much less their consent? They don’t tell, but their ass is grass nonetheless.
The law, as stated is “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” – many of the people who have been discharged did “not tell”, the policy is such that they are not supposed to initiate a review unless you give them good reason to. That hasn’t happened in most cases. Many of the gay and lesbian people who have been discharged, very much played by these ignorant and absurd “rules”, the military being the ones who did not play fair by those same rules. This policy is an embarassment to the entire country. What ideals are we defending? Lying? Deception? Ignorance?
JRjr<—It’s a military soldier’s responsibility when getting outed to either deny it or tell the truth. As long as there is no evidence, it’s your words against theirs. If there are evidence, then your fault for breaking the law. You get what you deserve because you already knew in advance before joining the military. Let’s fight the law first before joining. I’m against DADT but believe in keeping my gay sexual orientation underground until the law gets struck down.