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		<title>By: DaBoyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaBoyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HE DESERVES THE DEATH PENALTY. I am in Columbus now, however, I am from Cleveland and I was there when this all happened and I am gay and a minority, the fear that went through all of us was huge, and the Cleveland police was not as helpful in the community at the time. If you lived there you would have known how it felt, and whenever you couldn&#039;t reach a gay friend the day after the night before, horrible thoughts went through your head and you called everyone to see if they had heard from them. It was such a frightening time, you wouldn&#039;t want to have been there. SO fry him, just for the fear that he sent so many people to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HE DESERVES THE DEATH PENALTY. I am in Columbus now, however, I am from Cleveland and I was there when this all happened and I am gay and a minority, the fear that went through all of us was huge, and the Cleveland police was not as helpful in the community at the time. If you lived there you would have known how it felt, and whenever you couldn&#8217;t reach a gay friend the day after the night before, horrible thoughts went through your head and you called everyone to see if they had heard from them. It was such a frightening time, you wouldn&#8217;t want to have been there. SO fry him, just for the fear that he sent so many people to.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/court-considers-death-sentence-for-ohio-neo-nazi/comment-page-1/#comment-74528</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr fisher more humane? so you think locking some one up for life is humane.  he killed THREE people  that is not humane  i dont want him running around in three or  four yrs when his parole is up so he can do it again  thats kinda hard to take. sorry think we are on very difrent sides on this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr fisher more humane? so you think locking some one up for life is humane.  he killed THREE people  that is not humane  i dont want him running around in three or  four yrs when his parole is up so he can do it again  thats kinda hard to take. sorry think we are on very difrent sides on this one</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;some of you say oh its sad to kill him

No. Many of us are saying that us doing the killing lowers and dehumanizes ourselves. We become a slave to baser impulses of blood lust and vengeance. 

We debase ourselves when we impose the death penalty. We should be better, more humane than that. Life without parole--and I know that it will take some hard work to make it so that life without parole becomes more of a reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;some of you say oh its sad to kill him</p>
<p>No. Many of us are saying that us doing the killing lowers and dehumanizes ourselves. We become a slave to baser impulses of blood lust and vengeance. </p>
<p>We debase ourselves when we impose the death penalty. We should be better, more humane than that. Life without parole&#8211;and I know that it will take some hard work to make it so that life without parole becomes more of a reality.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/court-considers-death-sentence-for-ohio-neo-nazi/comment-page-1/#comment-74433</link>
		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they should hang him in the court yard as fast as he killed those people!  some of you say oh its sad to kill  him well i dont want ot feed him  let hell take care of him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should hang him in the court yard as fast as he killed those people!  some of you say oh its sad to kill  him well i dont want ot feed him  let hell take care of him</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so very glad to have left Ohio. More mass murderers come from Ohio than any other state. They thump the bible, do not LGBT people, and have a backwoods mentality. Big cities like Cleveland are not as bad but the state is full of small towns and villages with a mind set that is scary. One would think that the state that was the gate way for the underground railroad, Quakers,and Amish would be more liberal but it is far from that. I am so glad my partner and I got out. I love my new home in Baltimore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so very glad to have left Ohio. More mass murderers come from Ohio than any other state. They thump the bible, do not LGBT people, and have a backwoods mentality. Big cities like Cleveland are not as bad but the state is full of small towns and villages with a mind set that is scary. One would think that the state that was the gate way for the underground railroad, Quakers,and Amish would be more liberal but it is far from that. I am so glad my partner and I got out. I love my new home in Baltimore.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@blessed--you&#039;re wrong.  Note the case I mentioned from suburban Akron.  He coulda been executed.  Then what?  Again, recall that it took the then-AG, Jim Petro (former Republican Cuyahoga County Commissioner from Rocky River, and known for very little other defense of constitutional law), coming up from Columbus to Akron to TELL Summit County Prosecutor Sherri Bevan-Walsh that she WOULD release that man without delay.  Another tidbit:  at the time, the Summit County GOP chair, Alex Arshinkoff, was also known for picking up young trade from Akron bars...to the point that one night, a kid got outta Arshinkoff&#039;s car on the OH 8 freeway (Near Blossom Music Center, @ Steeles Corners), troopers pulled up, and troopers told the kid he wouldn&#039;t have a case &#039;cause Arshinkoff was...well, who he was.  Blessedguy, what state do you live in?  What do you know about Ohio and its laws, and its prosecution thereof?  What do you know about the cost of a (possibly-inconclusive) million-dollar appeal versus the current cost of housing Spisak for the rest of his life?  

As I see it, on Ohio DRC&#039;s site, Mr Spisak was born on 06 Jun 1951.  He entered an Ohio prison on 13 Sep 1983; anybody who wants further details can look them up.  It&#039;s now 2009, making him 58, and he&#039;s been in prison for 26 years.  Hell no, I don&#039;t want him paroled, and he shouldn&#039;t be.  If you knew anything about Ohio&#039;s correctional system and its policies re: inmate mental illness, then you&#039;d know exactly where he&#039;d go if he was considered as much crazy as criminal.

Blessed, there&#039;s another case.  In Cleveland, near the Shaker line, along Doan Brook and across from Baldwin Hills reservoir.  Kaiser used to be there.  Dude who&#039;s spent 20 years on death row because of an &quot;informant&quot;--an &quot;informant&quot; who just happened to have tons of incriminating evidence about himself, except the Cuyahoga Prosecutor had already offered him a deal.  You wanna talk about that one too--again, another time when a man is on death row for a crime easily proved to be not his doing?  I&#039;m not about thug love.  I&#039;m about a legal system prosecuting the right person, as opposed to the easiest target.  I want my Ohio taxes to prosecute wrongdoers.  If you, Blessedguy, are so eager to see anybody die for a crime just to get &quot;closure,&quot; then it makes me wonder about your motives.  Like a sociopath who wants to divert attention.  Like you, just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blessed&#8211;you&#8217;re wrong.  Note the case I mentioned from suburban Akron.  He coulda been executed.  Then what?  Again, recall that it took the then-AG, Jim Petro (former Republican Cuyahoga County Commissioner from Rocky River, and known for very little other defense of constitutional law), coming up from Columbus to Akron to TELL Summit County Prosecutor Sherri Bevan-Walsh that she WOULD release that man without delay.  Another tidbit:  at the time, the Summit County GOP chair, Alex Arshinkoff, was also known for picking up young trade from Akron bars&#8230;to the point that one night, a kid got outta Arshinkoff&#8217;s car on the OH 8 freeway (Near Blossom Music Center, @ Steeles Corners), troopers pulled up, and troopers told the kid he wouldn&#8217;t have a case &#8217;cause Arshinkoff was&#8230;well, who he was.  Blessedguy, what state do you live in?  What do you know about Ohio and its laws, and its prosecution thereof?  What do you know about the cost of a (possibly-inconclusive) million-dollar appeal versus the current cost of housing Spisak for the rest of his life?  </p>
<p>As I see it, on Ohio DRC&#8217;s site, Mr Spisak was born on 06 Jun 1951.  He entered an Ohio prison on 13 Sep 1983; anybody who wants further details can look them up.  It&#8217;s now 2009, making him 58, and he&#8217;s been in prison for 26 years.  Hell no, I don&#8217;t want him paroled, and he shouldn&#8217;t be.  If you knew anything about Ohio&#8217;s correctional system and its policies re: inmate mental illness, then you&#8217;d know exactly where he&#8217;d go if he was considered as much crazy as criminal.</p>
<p>Blessed, there&#8217;s another case.  In Cleveland, near the Shaker line, along Doan Brook and across from Baldwin Hills reservoir.  Kaiser used to be there.  Dude who&#8217;s spent 20 years on death row because of an &#8220;informant&#8221;&#8211;an &#8220;informant&#8221; who just happened to have tons of incriminating evidence about himself, except the Cuyahoga Prosecutor had already offered him a deal.  You wanna talk about that one too&#8211;again, another time when a man is on death row for a crime easily proved to be not his doing?  I&#8217;m not about thug love.  I&#8217;m about a legal system prosecuting the right person, as opposed to the easiest target.  I want my Ohio taxes to prosecute wrongdoers.  If you, Blessedguy, are so eager to see anybody die for a crime just to get &#8220;closure,&#8221; then it makes me wonder about your motives.  Like a sociopath who wants to divert attention.  Like you, just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: blessedguy2002</title>
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		<dc:creator>blessedguy2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest to shorten the wait period for death penalty because it&#039;s just a waste of tax payers money. Let&#039;s use the tax money to save people&#039;s lives, such as the poors, the hungry and the sicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest to shorten the wait period for death penalty because it&#8217;s just a waste of tax payers money. Let&#8217;s use the tax money to save people&#8217;s lives, such as the poors, the hungry and the sicks.</p>
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		<title>By: bearhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bearhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not believe that 365, would endorse death penalty, as we cried out that other countries use it against gays.  Are you proud that we are in the top 5 countries in world that still use the death penalty.  This is guy seems like he has a mental illness.  He needs medical attention, yet he should remain in jail for life.  I know Ohio like the death penalty, but it dose not solve anything.  People will kill either from illness, drugs or hatred. United States should limit the death penalty, and become a civilize country. Yes, I am against the death penalty.  Governmet makes mistakes and someday are government can use it against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not believe that 365, would endorse death penalty, as we cried out that other countries use it against gays.  Are you proud that we are in the top 5 countries in world that still use the death penalty.  This is guy seems like he has a mental illness.  He needs medical attention, yet he should remain in jail for life.  I know Ohio like the death penalty, but it dose not solve anything.  People will kill either from illness, drugs or hatred. United States should limit the death penalty, and become a civilize country. Yes, I am against the death penalty.  Governmet makes mistakes and someday are government can use it against us.</p>
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		<title>By: bearhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bearhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not believe that 365, would endorse death penalty, as we cried out that other countries use it against gays.  Are you proud that we are in the top 5 countries in world that still use the death penalty.  This is guy seems like he has a mental illness.  He needs medical attention, yet he should remain in jail for life.  I know Ohio like the death penalty, but it dose not solve anything.  People will kill either from illness, drugs or hatred. United States should limit the death penalty, and become a civilize country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not believe that 365, would endorse death penalty, as we cried out that other countries use it against gays.  Are you proud that we are in the top 5 countries in world that still use the death penalty.  This is guy seems like he has a mental illness.  He needs medical attention, yet he should remain in jail for life.  I know Ohio like the death penalty, but it dose not solve anything.  People will kill either from illness, drugs or hatred. United States should limit the death penalty, and become a civilize country.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not getting a raise for three years, yet Attorney General Cordray is pushing for another go-round on Spisak--which is going to cost tax money for both sides to fight.  The state is fuckin&#039; broke, yet they&#039;re obsessed with executions.  It&#039;s not about justice, it&#039;s about revenge.  Blood vengeance.  Jesus H, I&#039;m so glad that my streets are barely paved, and we have crumbling schools, $10k/year IN-STATE tuition at state universities, and these fucktards are wasting my money tryin&#039; to kill some freak who&#039;s stayed behind bars for decades?  Keep him in prison, stop bleeding the state budget any futher.  

Keep in mind why this is such an issue in Ohio right now.  A couple of weeks ago, down at Lucasville, they had some dude strapped down for his lethal injection.  It stopped after two hours.  They gave him a bathroom break.  DRC staff couldn&#039;t find a vein.  Prison is punishment.  I don&#039;t give half a turd if I&#039;m payin&#039; for his weekend brunch.  I pay for kids I don&#039;t have to go to school, don&#039;t I?  This bastard&#039;s being punished and he&#039;s removed from society.  Same for Spisak.  This is a pissing contest and a waste of my taxes.  

One more thought.  In Ohio--in Cleveland, specifically--there have been at least 1,000 people a year convicted of a felony--trace possession of a controlled substance.  That&#039;s for at least the last 20 years.  A crack pipe with trace on it--hell, there&#039;s trace on something like 70% of US currency.  In Cleveland, it meant a damn-near-automatic felony, which will include prison time.  The suburbs don&#039;t do this, but Cleveland does.  Poorly-educated, now you have a felony...which equals snowball&#039;s chance of getting a job past the brushless car wash.  This is a system concerned with anal-retentive Victorian Protestant propriety.  Who else would be so short-sighted that they&#039;d reintroduce 6,000 unemployable felons to a shrinking city every year?  And they&#039;re gonna do what to eat?  That&#039;s right.  

Of course, we could also discuss the guy in an Akron suburb whose family paid for a DNA test proving he DID NOT rape his niece, nor rape and murder his mother-in-law, but it took the then-AG (a worthless GOP hack) to come up from Columbus and tell her that even Ohio&#039;s casual approach to the Constitution couldn&#039;t brook keeping an innocent man in prison (especially when the real rapist/killer was already doing time for another rape).  Yeah, I&#039;m fuckin&#039; angry, because all this law and order bullshit does exactly nothing to deal with real problems, and it&#039;s nothing but bread and circuses to distract the ignorant and the bigoted from ongoing problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not getting a raise for three years, yet Attorney General Cordray is pushing for another go-round on Spisak&#8211;which is going to cost tax money for both sides to fight.  The state is fuckin&#8217; broke, yet they&#8217;re obsessed with executions.  It&#8217;s not about justice, it&#8217;s about revenge.  Blood vengeance.  Jesus H, I&#8217;m so glad that my streets are barely paved, and we have crumbling schools, $10k/year IN-STATE tuition at state universities, and these fucktards are wasting my money tryin&#8217; to kill some freak who&#8217;s stayed behind bars for decades?  Keep him in prison, stop bleeding the state budget any futher.  </p>
<p>Keep in mind why this is such an issue in Ohio right now.  A couple of weeks ago, down at Lucasville, they had some dude strapped down for his lethal injection.  It stopped after two hours.  They gave him a bathroom break.  DRC staff couldn&#8217;t find a vein.  Prison is punishment.  I don&#8217;t give half a turd if I&#8217;m payin&#8217; for his weekend brunch.  I pay for kids I don&#8217;t have to go to school, don&#8217;t I?  This bastard&#8217;s being punished and he&#8217;s removed from society.  Same for Spisak.  This is a pissing contest and a waste of my taxes.  </p>
<p>One more thought.  In Ohio&#8211;in Cleveland, specifically&#8211;there have been at least 1,000 people a year convicted of a felony&#8211;trace possession of a controlled substance.  That&#8217;s for at least the last 20 years.  A crack pipe with trace on it&#8211;hell, there&#8217;s trace on something like 70% of US currency.  In Cleveland, it meant a damn-near-automatic felony, which will include prison time.  The suburbs don&#8217;t do this, but Cleveland does.  Poorly-educated, now you have a felony&#8230;which equals snowball&#8217;s chance of getting a job past the brushless car wash.  This is a system concerned with anal-retentive Victorian Protestant propriety.  Who else would be so short-sighted that they&#8217;d reintroduce 6,000 unemployable felons to a shrinking city every year?  And they&#8217;re gonna do what to eat?  That&#8217;s right.  </p>
<p>Of course, we could also discuss the guy in an Akron suburb whose family paid for a DNA test proving he DID NOT rape his niece, nor rape and murder his mother-in-law, but it took the then-AG (a worthless GOP hack) to come up from Columbus and tell her that even Ohio&#8217;s casual approach to the Constitution couldn&#8217;t brook keeping an innocent man in prison (especially when the real rapist/killer was already doing time for another rape).  Yeah, I&#8217;m fuckin&#8217; angry, because all this law and order bullshit does exactly nothing to deal with real problems, and it&#8217;s nothing but bread and circuses to distract the ignorant and the bigoted from ongoing problems.</p>
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