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		<title>By: noyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>noyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of whiny comments here. Lets just be glad that LGBT support is becoming more chic in the political/social arena as more time passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of whiny comments here. Lets just be glad that LGBT support is becoming more chic in the political/social arena as more time passes.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Go f*ck yourself c*nt!!&quot; says political scientist degree holder Rodney Moore.

Rodney, any other &quot;choice&quot; phrases you&#039;d like to share with the rest of us?

If and when Corzine signs NJ marriage equality into law, I guess you&#039;ll just have to &quot;eat your own hat&quot; so to speak, Rodney. Meanwhile, Corzine has to win the general NJ election in November.
It doesn&#039;t take a political scientist to know that if Christie wins the NJ governorship this November, he would waste little time in trying to do what he could to reverse any NJ marriage equality. 

When you say things like the above,
&quot;Go f*ck yourself, c*nt!&quot; all your degrees are suddenly meaningless. All we can see are your ugly and sexist words. She didn&#039;t demean your male gender after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Go f*ck yourself c*nt!!&#8221; says political scientist degree holder Rodney Moore.</p>
<p>Rodney, any other &#8220;choice&#8221; phrases you&#8217;d like to share with the rest of us?</p>
<p>If and when Corzine signs NJ marriage equality into law, I guess you&#8217;ll just have to &#8220;eat your own hat&#8221; so to speak, Rodney. Meanwhile, Corzine has to win the general NJ election in November.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t take a political scientist to know that if Christie wins the NJ governorship this November, he would waste little time in trying to do what he could to reverse any NJ marriage equality. </p>
<p>When you say things like the above,<br />
&#8220;Go f*ck yourself, c*nt!&#8221; all your degrees are suddenly meaningless. All we can see are your ugly and sexist words. She didn&#8217;t demean your male gender after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than two years ago (seems like a lifetime) I wrote about Gov. Corzine&#039;s pussy-footing around to avoid having to sign New Jersey&#039;s apartheid-like, so-called &quot;Civil Union&quot; bill on St. Valentine&#039;s Day. 

This segregationist concept, of course, became a travesty in the state for many same-sex couples seeking joint insurance and other benefits that are traditionally reserved for &quot;married only&quot; couples.

READ MY ARTICLE at the link below for details. It first appeared, February 16, 2007, on that great Canadian website &quot;Equal Marriage for Same-sex Couples&quot;. 


http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/advocacy/sna160207.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than two years ago (seems like a lifetime) I wrote about Gov. Corzine&#8217;s pussy-footing around to avoid having to sign New Jersey&#8217;s apartheid-like, so-called &#8220;Civil Union&#8221; bill on St. Valentine&#8217;s Day. </p>
<p>This segregationist concept, of course, became a travesty in the state for many same-sex couples seeking joint insurance and other benefits that are traditionally reserved for &#8220;married only&#8221; couples.</p>
<p>READ MY ARTICLE at the link below for details. It first appeared, February 16, 2007, on that great Canadian website &#8220;Equal Marriage for Same-sex Couples&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/advocacy/sna160207.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.samesexmarriage.ca/advocacy/sna160207.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean from NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean from NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at NJ Pride in Asbury Park a couple of weeks ago when Corzine spoke.  The crowd was very apathetic towards him.  There were even some boos.  I agree with others that this man is using us to further his career.  However, the Republican candidate is the second coming of Hades and he must not win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at NJ Pride in Asbury Park a couple of weeks ago when Corzine spoke.  The crowd was very apathetic towards him.  There were even some boos.  I agree with others that this man is using us to further his career.  However, the Republican candidate is the second coming of Hades and he must not win!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle,NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle,NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow okay, im from new jersey and only thing i got to say is, if this fat italian republican wins for governor im moving out, corzine has done steps to marriage equality and the state cant do anything until elections are over, and once they are they will do a vote, which will pass, they are just scared they wont have enough votes to pass like in new york..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow okay, im from new jersey and only thing i got to say is, if this fat italian republican wins for governor im moving out, corzine has done steps to marriage equality and the state cant do anything until elections are over, and once they are they will do a vote, which will pass, they are just scared they wont have enough votes to pass like in new york..</p>
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		<title>By: GK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corzine has been in office for almost a fullt erm and suddenly with his campaign in deep trouble, he decidesd he is for marriage equality.  Where was he for his entire term?  Why does this reek of desperation?  While he inherited a mess from prior governors, his own record stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corzine has been in office for almost a fullt erm and suddenly with his campaign in deep trouble, he decidesd he is for marriage equality.  Where was he for his entire term?  Why does this reek of desperation?  While he inherited a mess from prior governors, his own record stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney K Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney K Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, I have never heard that arguement before, I disagree with you, however you so eloquently stated your position that you give me pause. Milk also didn&#039;t want us to HIDE the words &quot;gay&quot; or &quot;homosexual&quot;, cos we are what we are. HOWEVER, you did fail to address the fact that the term &quot;gay marriage&quot; is often used to describe those separate institutions such as civil unions, domestic partnerships and whatver term they come up with. Marriage equality is a politically correct term,, but it makes a point. Pro-choice activists don&#039;t call themselves pro-abortion, pro-lifers don&#039;t call themselves anti-choice. Global warming deniers often use the term coined by Frank Lutz &quot;Climate Change&quot; because weather itself is climate change and if we just call the 100 degree weather and ice caps melting &quot;climate change&quot; then people will not care. 

The point being my esteemed friend, is that language has nuances that can be munipulated which can make people respond. Abortionists realize that abortion is not something most people think of as a positive, so they shroud their cause in key words like CHOICE. Likewise pro-lifers don&#039;t like to advertise that they&#039;re anti-sex, often anti-condom as well as anti-abortion so they talk about a &quot;culture of life&quot;. When Bush ran for office in 2000, he coined the term &quot;compassionate conservatism&quot; which reached out to that mushy middle of the road voter. I am a Political Science and Linguistics guru, most people don&#039;t believe me(and that&#039;s fine) but I speak 11 languages and I have been involved in politics since 17. I was a political f*g as soon as I came out. Terms, words and language matter. The homophobes used to use the all but defunct term &quot;special rights&quot; and we countered with &quot;equal rights are not special rights&quot;. We used a word which strikes a cord with Americans, and many people around the world. We used &quot;EQUALITY&quot; and EQUAL and some 10 years later it has been shown again and again that asking for EQUAL rights, EQUAL opportunities and EQUAL marriage rights work. After Hurricane Katrina, I evacuated to Boston(for a year) and I threw myself into the marriage equality movement. And you&#039;re right, we have to educate those people who can be educated. We have to show them gay couples, gay marriages, kids adopted by gay people. My rep was Marian Walsh a CONSERVATIVE pro-life, Irish Catholic Democrat, and she was convinced to support marriage equality because she met gay and lesbian couples with kids. Those kids that NOONE else wants, but that gay people happily adopted and gave them a welcoming home. And Representative Walsh&#039;s story is a case where we need to get personal and intimate and let strangers into our lives. However, her case was rare, the majority of those at Court(legislature) were convinced by a strong argument about equality. We stayed on message about marriage equality, rarely did you hear someone say &quot;gay marriage&quot; except the opposition, because they knew how much of a rallying cry it was. And if Jersey or California or any other state wants to be successful, people need to pay close attention to how we won in the Commonwealth. 

Robert,, I have a brother named Robert, thanks for the support. I am not an expert on New Jersey politics, not in the least. But the last thing I am going to tolerate is some ninny telling me not to express my educated opinion on an issue that effects me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, I have never heard that arguement before, I disagree with you, however you so eloquently stated your position that you give me pause. Milk also didn&#8217;t want us to HIDE the words &#8220;gay&#8221; or &#8220;homosexual&#8221;, cos we are what we are. HOWEVER, you did fail to address the fact that the term &#8220;gay marriage&#8221; is often used to describe those separate institutions such as civil unions, domestic partnerships and whatver term they come up with. Marriage equality is a politically correct term,, but it makes a point. Pro-choice activists don&#8217;t call themselves pro-abortion, pro-lifers don&#8217;t call themselves anti-choice. Global warming deniers often use the term coined by Frank Lutz &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; because weather itself is climate change and if we just call the 100 degree weather and ice caps melting &#8220;climate change&#8221; then people will not care. </p>
<p>The point being my esteemed friend, is that language has nuances that can be munipulated which can make people respond. Abortionists realize that abortion is not something most people think of as a positive, so they shroud their cause in key words like CHOICE. Likewise pro-lifers don&#8217;t like to advertise that they&#8217;re anti-sex, often anti-condom as well as anti-abortion so they talk about a &#8220;culture of life&#8221;. When Bush ran for office in 2000, he coined the term &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; which reached out to that mushy middle of the road voter. I am a Political Science and Linguistics guru, most people don&#8217;t believe me(and that&#8217;s fine) but I speak 11 languages and I have been involved in politics since 17. I was a political f*g as soon as I came out. Terms, words and language matter. The homophobes used to use the all but defunct term &#8220;special rights&#8221; and we countered with &#8220;equal rights are not special rights&#8221;. We used a word which strikes a cord with Americans, and many people around the world. We used &#8220;EQUALITY&#8221; and EQUAL and some 10 years later it has been shown again and again that asking for EQUAL rights, EQUAL opportunities and EQUAL marriage rights work. After Hurricane Katrina, I evacuated to Boston(for a year) and I threw myself into the marriage equality movement. And you&#8217;re right, we have to educate those people who can be educated. We have to show them gay couples, gay marriages, kids adopted by gay people. My rep was Marian Walsh a CONSERVATIVE pro-life, Irish Catholic Democrat, and she was convinced to support marriage equality because she met gay and lesbian couples with kids. Those kids that NOONE else wants, but that gay people happily adopted and gave them a welcoming home. And Representative Walsh&#8217;s story is a case where we need to get personal and intimate and let strangers into our lives. However, her case was rare, the majority of those at Court(legislature) were convinced by a strong argument about equality. We stayed on message about marriage equality, rarely did you hear someone say &#8220;gay marriage&#8221; except the opposition, because they knew how much of a rallying cry it was. And if Jersey or California or any other state wants to be successful, people need to pay close attention to how we won in the Commonwealth. </p>
<p>Robert,, I have a brother named Robert, thanks for the support. I am not an expert on New Jersey politics, not in the least. But the last thing I am going to tolerate is some ninny telling me not to express my educated opinion on an issue that effects me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rodney K. Corzine has done next to nothing to move the marriage bill. It&#039;s only when he faces a tough re-election challenge that he suddenly starts promising that he&#039;ll start pushing if only you help re-elect him first. I say call him on it. If he passes marriage equality, then we should support him. Not vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rodney K. Corzine has done next to nothing to move the marriage bill. It&#8217;s only when he faces a tough re-election challenge that he suddenly starts promising that he&#8217;ll start pushing if only you help re-elect him first. I say call him on it. If he passes marriage equality, then we should support him. Not vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with Rodney on his opposition to the use of the term &quot;gay marriage&quot;. It feels more political and less genuine to use the term &quot;marriage equality.&quot; Besides, this argument wont be won by clever or strategic use of these terms--outside of political speeches and debates--let our statesmen worry with that. The rest of us need to show those in our lives who we really are and explain our real situations. Euphemisms and politically correct terms may sway ignorant masses, but the individuals in our lives that are capable of rational thought and of reconsidering their stances--those who we must convince--are going to need more whether or not you like to talk about &quot;marriage equality.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with Rodney on his opposition to the use of the term &#8220;gay marriage&#8221;. It feels more political and less genuine to use the term &#8220;marriage equality.&#8221; Besides, this argument wont be won by clever or strategic use of these terms&#8211;outside of political speeches and debates&#8211;let our statesmen worry with that. The rest of us need to show those in our lives who we really are and explain our real situations. Euphemisms and politically correct terms may sway ignorant masses, but the individuals in our lives that are capable of rational thought and of reconsidering their stances&#8211;those who we must convince&#8211;are going to need more whether or not you like to talk about &#8220;marriage equality.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When you don’t know the particulars of the states politics’s Rodney, butt out!&quot;

So this site, which reports news that affects our community nationwide is a place where we all can comment on events - be it in California, Utah, Iowa or Maine..  Even New Jersey.  

I doube many of us know the particulars of a state&#039;s politics without living there, though it appears Rodney doesn&#039;t suffer in that category.  

When you tell Rodney to butt out, you are telling the rest of us that may not know the particulars of the states&#039; politics to butt out as well.  

Think about it...  you are saying that only people who basically live in that state and would know the particulars should dare to comment on an article here.  

That is not what this site is for.  

Personally, I&#039;ll comment on any article I see fit - and so should Rodney..  And please, you feel free to do the same..!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you don’t know the particulars of the states politics’s Rodney, butt out!&#8221;</p>
<p>So this site, which reports news that affects our community nationwide is a place where we all can comment on events &#8211; be it in California, Utah, Iowa or Maine..  Even New Jersey.  </p>
<p>I doube many of us know the particulars of a state&#8217;s politics without living there, though it appears Rodney doesn&#8217;t suffer in that category.  </p>
<p>When you tell Rodney to butt out, you are telling the rest of us that may not know the particulars of the states&#8217; politics to butt out as well.  </p>
<p>Think about it&#8230;  you are saying that only people who basically live in that state and would know the particulars should dare to comment on an article here.  </p>
<p>That is not what this site is for.  </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ll comment on any article I see fit &#8211; and so should Rodney..  And please, you feel free to do the same..!!!</p>
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