Comments on: Cop fired over anti-gay emails http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: John in CA http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-33128 John in CA Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:47:18 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-33128 The police aren't analgolous to the check out counter at Wal-Mart. They're a paramilitary force with a strict top-down hierarchy. And they're agents of the State (i.e. the Crown). Although police officers have more civil liberties than "active duty" members of the armed services, they're still expected to maintain a similar sense of discipline and order. Disobeying a direct order from a superior in the chain of command? That qualifies as insubordination. And as such, can constitute grounds for dismissal in most police departments. The police aren’t analgolous to the check out counter at Wal-Mart. They’re a paramilitary force with a strict top-down hierarchy. And they’re agents of the State (i.e. the Crown). Although police officers have more civil liberties than “active duty” members of the armed services, they’re still expected to maintain a similar sense of discipline and order.

Disobeying a direct order from a superior in the chain of command? That qualifies as insubordination. And as such, can constitute grounds for dismissal in most police departments.

]]> By: Bill http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-33126 Bill Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:02:36 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-33126 @Malaz... This isn't a matter of somebody who is being fired for having a differing opinion or not supporting the same causes as his employers. "Cogman was ordered to stop sending “offensive mailings” using police computers." He was ordered to stop using his employer's assets to spread offensive messages. My guess is that if he used his computer at home, then he wouldn't be in this trouble. @Malaz…
This isn’t a matter of somebody who is being fired for having a differing opinion or not supporting the same causes as his employers. “Cogman was ordered to stop sending “offensive mailings” using police computers.”
He was ordered to stop using his employer’s assets to spread offensive messages. My guess is that if he used his computer at home, then he wouldn’t be in this trouble.

]]> By: Malaz http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-33123 Malaz Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:50:49 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-33123 Justice? I'd have to say not. The guy could have handled his homophobia differently, but firing him? I donno...I don't know the whole story but people have the right to believe any way they please, as long as it doesn't affect how they treat others. Maybe the guy is good cop? Maybe this is a case of reverse discrimination? I mean, come on.... Anyway, what's being reported in this case probably isn't the whole story AND if his department asked him to wear a pink ribbon or a rainbow to signify his allegiance with our cause and he didn't want to, that's basically the exact same situation. It's about free speech and such, you know? Justice? I’d have to say not. The guy could have handled his homophobia differently, but firing him? I donno…I don’t know the whole story but people have the right to believe any way they please, as long as it doesn’t affect how they treat others. Maybe the guy is good cop?
Maybe this is a case of reverse discrimination?
I mean, come on….
Anyway, what’s being reported in this case probably isn’t the whole story AND if his department asked him to wear a pink ribbon or a rainbow to signify his allegiance with our cause and he didn’t want to, that’s basically the exact same situation.
It’s about free speech and such, you know?

]]> By: Jim http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-33096 Jim Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-33096 I see that Gogman's religious (Christian?) views led to his homophobia. Further evidence that most religious views are toxic. I fear the "Love Ethic" espoused by Jesus is lost in the shuffle.... I see that Gogman’s religious (Christian?) views led to his homophobia. Further evidence that most religious views are toxic. I fear the “Love Ethic” espoused by Jesus is lost in the shuffle….

]]> By: Kerry http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-32728 Kerry Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:30:07 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-32728 Right on RMNY,thanks for the laugh. Right on RMNY,thanks for the laugh.

]]> By: RMNY http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-32726 RMNY Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:35:32 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-32726 I agree with you Kerry, most likely a closet case (and a basket case) all in one. I agree with you Kerry, most likely a closet case (and a basket case) all in one.

]]> By: Kerry http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-32704 Kerry Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:44:11 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-32704 probable queer himself probable queer himself

]]> By: Daniel http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-32679 Daniel Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:35:54 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-32679 This kind of thing can't be allowed. Next thing you know you have email wars between members of different faiths demanding each other to convert. Believe what you want on your own time, but at work you have to keep your judgements to yourself. This kind of thing can’t be allowed. Next thing you know you have email wars between members of different faiths demanding each other to convert. Believe what you want on your own time, but at work you have to keep your judgements to yourself.

]]> By: TheRadicalRealist http://www.365gay.com/news/cop-fired-over-anti-gay-emails/comment-page-1/#comment-32670 TheRadicalRealist Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:10:08 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=4380#comment-32670 Haha, if this had happened in the US, the cop would get a raise, a parade, and a day named in his honor. Haha, if this had happened in the US, the cop would get a raise, a parade, and a day named in his honor.

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