Comments on: Conservative Lutherans organize after vote on gays

By: Kelson

Kelson — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:04:46 +0000

asdfghjk – Does being a card carrying member of the Christian Taliban give you the feeling of being “saved?” My I recommend “The Evolution of God” by Robert Wright. If, after reading this book, you fail to throw that very poor example of mythology called the Bible into the trash bin, then there is no hope for you.

By: Drewski

Drewski — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:18:56 +0000

asdfghk–oh, so you’re from that already-identified-as-homophobic Missouri Synod? Shouldn’t you be making lutefisk or something instead of trolling on a GAY website? Don’t start with the crap, the pseudo-deconstruction about the sin vs the sinner. It’s a waste of time beneath every regular poster on this site, and the only reason to continue with it is if you have some creativity in your closeted body that your religion hasn’t managed to either squelch or mangle into some perversion of the flesh. Not that I’m accusing you of pedophilia, I’m *just mentioning* that there are documented connections between religious organizations which preach homophobia, and their internal actions to protect those who prey on children. I’m sure you see the distinction between the sin and the sinner, yes?

By: asdfghjk

asdfghjk — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:13:06 +0000

Speaking as a Lutheran (LCMS), I object first of all to the use of the term “homophobe” and second of all to the comment, “this too shall pass.” Thirdly, it has been stated, correctly, that many Christians are hypocrites.

First of all, Christians have nothing against homosexuals. They do, however, have something against the sexual perversion known as homosexuality. Since humans live in a fallen world, every human struggles with sin. Anyone who says that unrepentant sinners are condemned to hell (1 Cor. 6:9-10) is correct. However, God is patient, not wanting anyone to perish, but rather everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

Second of all, you state that this will “pass”. This is incorrect. God’s word will never pass away (Mark 13:31). Sins of all types have been around ever since the first Adam’s fall, and free salvation since the second Adam’s coming. This world will never know peace until Christ comes.

Sadly, many Christians choose to be friends of the world and lose their faith. Friendship with the world is enmity toward God (James 4:4). In addition, Satan constantly seeks to mislead people (1 Peter 5:8).

As long as the earth in its present form exists, we will have issues with sin, hypocrisy, and corruption. However, remember that even if you have committed the worst sins imaginable, God is ready to forgive you if you repent and turn to him (Acts 2:38). Remember that nobody is perfect (1 John 1:8). Know that sins are an abomination to God, but he died for each and every one of us.

Thank you for reading this, I hope that you have a good day.

By: Joel Deacon

Joel Deacon — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:47:32 +0000

So, God never said a word about the ills of homosexuality, your christian editors threw the first thousand years chose to add it. I must say, the Bible has a great history on slavery and womens rights, like none, if you have to change the Bible to suit your oppressive thoughts then bring back slavery and cancel all womens rights, even the right to vote so it will be in line with the teachings of Christ. Pagen Brit, another sect you Christians murdered on your way to power

By: Gerry Fisher

Gerry Fisher — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:16 +0000

I love all the fancy words. Most just mean, “They aren’t believing our story anymore, and they’re acting accordingly.”

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:56:02 +0000

Let the homophobes leave. They can join the “Mysery” Synod or form their own. In any case, from the perspective of world Lutheranism, they are a distinct minority. The national churches of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. all reject the idea that homosexuals should be barred from the clergy.

By: Alex_Parrish

Alex_Parrish — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:45:10 +0000

No surprise; congregations have moved between the various Lutheran governing bodies (ELCA, LCMS, WELS) before, like moths to a theologicaly-fueled flame. This realignment takes place at least every generation or so, and is almost always blamed on some perceived disagreement in interpretation of scripture. Biblical literalism is alive and well in the Lutheran church so this migration was inevitable. It will have no long-term consequences on the ELCA beyond the immediate hand-wringing and finger-pointing. This too shall pass.