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	<title>Comments on: California to investigate Mormon Prop 8 donations</title>
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		<title>By: Straight Asan Arrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Straight Asan Arrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and every other religion believes in the bible, too, and polygamy.  What&#039;s your point?  You going to sit there and pretend like most christian churches believe the OT prophets to be immoral because they had more than one wife?

Thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and every other religion believes in the bible, too, and polygamy.  What&#8217;s your point?  You going to sit there and pretend like most christian churches believe the OT prophets to be immoral because they had more than one wife?</p>
<p>Thought not.</p>
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		<title>By: Straight Asan Arrow</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-34557</link>
		<dc:creator>Straight Asan Arrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect so many of you to use your anger and supposed bigotry against yourselves and direct it toward the Mormon church.  How typical.

Mormons are now cooler in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect so many of you to use your anger and supposed bigotry against yourselves and direct it toward the Mormon church.  How typical.</p>
<p>Mormons are now cooler in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32519</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the morons don&#039;t practice polygamy PUBLICLY just as Elliot&quot;No raincoat BJ&quot; Sptizer  PUBLICLY prosecuted prostitution as NY Attorney General. What u see isn&#039;t always true or real. Lets not forget those child abuse protectors and enablers the Roman Catholic Bishops of CA who had their pedophiles er, priests(or whoever was running the gay butchershops they call churches)read their letter urging the faithful(ignorant sheep) to vote yes on prop 8.
No more Mr. Nice Gay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the morons don&#8217;t practice polygamy PUBLICLY just as Elliot&#8221;No raincoat BJ&#8221; Sptizer  PUBLICLY prosecuted prostitution as NY Attorney General. What u see isn&#8217;t always true or real. Lets not forget those child abuse protectors and enablers the Roman Catholic Bishops of CA who had their pedophiles er, priests(or whoever was running the gay butchershops they call churches)read their letter urging the faithful(ignorant sheep) to vote yes on prop 8.<br />
No more Mr. Nice Gay!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32488</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former Mormon, I want people to understand that Mormons do in fact continue to believe in and practice polygamy, only not in this life. What does this mean? Mormons believe that marriages, when &quot;sealed&quot; in their temples, last for &quot;time and all eternity,&quot; to use the LDS phrase. This means that a temple marriage continues after death. While Mormons stopped marrying more than one woman to a man while they both live, they continue to allow one man to marry more than one woman in the temple, when the preceding wife has died. So a faithful Mormon who has been &quot;sealed&quot; to his wife, upon her death, is currently allowed to marry a new wife in the temple. In fact and for all theological and practical purposes, this man has two (or more) wives. Mormons pretend to be opposed to polygamy - and they are - if the spouses are all living. But they fervently believe it to be the higher order of marriage and suspended it only because it was against the law. They do allow it where the law can&#039;t reach them, viz., in the afterlife. So for Mormons to claim they don&#039;t believe in polygamy is disingenuous at best. If they didn&#039;t believe in it, they would not allow second and more temple marriages. And they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Mormon, I want people to understand that Mormons do in fact continue to believe in and practice polygamy, only not in this life. What does this mean? Mormons believe that marriages, when &#8220;sealed&#8221; in their temples, last for &#8220;time and all eternity,&#8221; to use the LDS phrase. This means that a temple marriage continues after death. While Mormons stopped marrying more than one woman to a man while they both live, they continue to allow one man to marry more than one woman in the temple, when the preceding wife has died. So a faithful Mormon who has been &#8220;sealed&#8221; to his wife, upon her death, is currently allowed to marry a new wife in the temple. In fact and for all theological and practical purposes, this man has two (or more) wives. Mormons pretend to be opposed to polygamy &#8211; and they are &#8211; if the spouses are all living. But they fervently believe it to be the higher order of marriage and suspended it only because it was against the law. They do allow it where the law can&#8217;t reach them, viz., in the afterlife. So for Mormons to claim they don&#8217;t believe in polygamy is disingenuous at best. If they didn&#8217;t believe in it, they would not allow second and more temple marriages. And they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32483</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne,
The Mormons did not have polygamy for some time now and polygamy is against the law anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,<br />
The Mormons did not have polygamy for some time now and polygamy is against the law anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: TigerTzu</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32461</link>
		<dc:creator>TigerTzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolerant, legal semantics aside, for all practical purposes the members ARE the church.  Sure they might hide like cowards behind the legality of a corporation, but without the members, they are just sitting in an empty room preaching to themselves.  Get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolerant, legal semantics aside, for all practical purposes the members ARE the church.  Sure they might hide like cowards behind the legality of a corporation, but without the members, they are just sitting in an empty room preaching to themselves.  Get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One writer has said the Mormons &quot;voluntarily&quot; donated to the hate campaign against gays in CA.  Voluntary when directives came from Salt Lake City to give money and time???  If anybody really believes all the money that poured into CA from the Mormon church was &quot;voluntary&quot; I&#039;d like to offer that person a bargain on a couple of like new bridges!  With food pantry shelves half empty across the country, let&#039;s hope this same group will &quot;voluntarily&quot; come up with the cash to buy food to fill those shelves---THAT would be real evidence of Christianity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One writer has said the Mormons &#8220;voluntarily&#8221; donated to the hate campaign against gays in CA.  Voluntary when directives came from Salt Lake City to give money and time???  If anybody really believes all the money that poured into CA from the Mormon church was &#8220;voluntary&#8221; I&#8217;d like to offer that person a bargain on a couple of like new bridges!  With food pantry shelves half empty across the country, let&#8217;s hope this same group will &#8220;voluntarily&#8221; come up with the cash to buy food to fill those shelves&#8212;THAT would be real evidence of Christianity!</p>
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		<title>By: Tolerant</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32449</link>
		<dc:creator>Tolerant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investigate all you want.  The church did not &quot;blow&quot; any money or spend any for that matter.  The only thing I read was that they reported making an in-kind donation of $2,078.97 to the coalition of faith organizations and conservative groups that sponsored Proposition 8.  This consisted of travel costs for meetings.

I just read another article stating that Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints &quot;put an estimated $25 million into the battle to end gay marriage in California.&quot; 
 
Not true. The MEMBERS of the church voluntarily chose to donate money. I keep reading talk of the church having its tax exempt status revoked. Nonsense. Opponents may wish this to be the case, but it is not based on fact. 
 
Let&#039;s keep the arguments accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investigate all you want.  The church did not &#8220;blow&#8221; any money or spend any for that matter.  The only thing I read was that they reported making an in-kind donation of $2,078.97 to the coalition of faith organizations and conservative groups that sponsored Proposition 8.  This consisted of travel costs for meetings.</p>
<p>I just read another article stating that Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints &#8220;put an estimated $25 million into the battle to end gay marriage in California.&#8221; </p>
<p>Not true. The MEMBERS of the church voluntarily chose to donate money. I keep reading talk of the church having its tax exempt status revoked. Nonsense. Opponents may wish this to be the case, but it is not based on fact. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep the arguments accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be an investigation into this whole fiasco.  However you want to look at it, it does smell of rotten underhandedness at the hands of the Church, whether it be Mormon or any other religious institution.  This was a civil rights issue, the ruling to grant same-sex couples equal marriage rights was to correct an injustice in law.  For the church to step in, with a bundle of cash to boot, to sway the masses against a minority has re-instated that injustice.  It should be held then, that if the church wishes to participate in political issues, then the church should and must be held accountable for and forced to ante up civil taxes like every individual or business does now.  With all the billions and billions of dollars churches have accumulated over the years by not paying taxes, no wonder they have money to blow by inciting hatred instead spending the money wisely on feeding starving people, contributing and working more to eliminate poverty by building homes for the poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be an investigation into this whole fiasco.  However you want to look at it, it does smell of rotten underhandedness at the hands of the Church, whether it be Mormon or any other religious institution.  This was a civil rights issue, the ruling to grant same-sex couples equal marriage rights was to correct an injustice in law.  For the church to step in, with a bundle of cash to boot, to sway the masses against a minority has re-instated that injustice.  It should be held then, that if the church wishes to participate in political issues, then the church should and must be held accountable for and forced to ante up civil taxes like every individual or business does now.  With all the billions and billions of dollars churches have accumulated over the years by not paying taxes, no wonder they have money to blow by inciting hatred instead spending the money wisely on feeding starving people, contributing and working more to eliminate poverty by building homes for the poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/california-to-investigate-mormon-prop-8-donations/comment-page-1/#comment-32393</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I learn about the Mormon &quot;religion&quot; the more it seems like a freaky religious cult.  Magic Underwear? Baptizing dead people and &quot;conversions&quot; of the dead?! WTF?! Not to mention the Big Love style polygamy. And doesn&#039;t it strike other Christians as odd that they worship Joe Smith as a divine prophet of God (Correct me if I&#039;m wrong but since they love to use the Bible to defend their discrimination against gays, doesn&#039;t the Bible say that worshiping false idols before God is a big no no?). And thier views on African Americans could curl your toes. It&#039;s all way FREAKY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I learn about the Mormon &#8220;religion&#8221; the more it seems like a freaky religious cult.  Magic Underwear? Baptizing dead people and &#8220;conversions&#8221; of the dead?! WTF?! Not to mention the Big Love style polygamy. And doesn&#8217;t it strike other Christians as odd that they worship Joe Smith as a divine prophet of God (Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but since they love to use the Bible to defend their discrimination against gays, doesn&#8217;t the Bible say that worshiping false idols before God is a big no no?). And thier views on African Americans could curl your toes. It&#8217;s all way FREAKY!</p>
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