Comments on: Calif. lawmakers urge court to overturn Prop 8

By: Todd

Todd — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:08:17 +0000

“DeVore went on to argue that same-sex marriage would create a strong legal argument for polygamy.”

But straight marriage does not?

By: Elissa

Elissa — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:14:24 +0000

It’s really good to hear that people acted so quickly against Prop 8 to get it revoked. The passsing of Prop 8 really put a damper on election day but it’s wonderful to see that the majority of the Californian government is completly for changing it. I’m looking forward to hearing the Court’s decision on it.

But I absolutly love the argument against gay marriage. It will lead to polygamy? Really? I’m pansexual and last I checked I still only want to be with one other person. Just because I’m not straight doesn’t mean I want more than one partner at a time. I do know plenty of people of any sexuality who are not interested in a strictly monogamous relationship so that’s based on personality, not sexuality. Everyone’s different and I bet that I respect differences between people that more than the majority of people against gay marriage.

By: Marc M

Marc M — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:01:43 +0000

Schwartzenegger would like to to see gays have the right to marry, as I get the feeling that he just doesn’t see what all the fuss is about.

He pushed the issue on the courts shoulders because he is a calculated, political “girly-man” who didn’t want to have to alienate his national party and a large part of his GOP voting base.

Now that things are reaching the line in the sand on this issue, he’s finally speaking his true feelings.

As for the Polygamy thing…? I don’t get why this is supposed to motivate people.

Polygamy already exists in various forms. It’s all a matter of semantics. We have people who have been married to thirteen people, who at the same time, have had several litters of kids with other people they never bothered to marry and…?

Then you have those that have those living in the more traditional Polygamous ways. They’re already doing it. They’ve BEEN doing it. So what?

People who are going to live in a Polygamous family structure, ARE GOING TO DO SO regardless of legality and in my opinion, that is their right to do so, as long as everyone is of age and willingly consenting.

Politicians like to think that decriminalizing something is the same as making it popular or common. That’s simply not the case. Were Polygamy decriminalized, it wouldn’t create any more plural marriages than already exist in actuality. Politicians like to think that treating gays equally will result in great gobs of people jumping on the gay bandwagon who otherwise wouldn’t have.

It’s ALWAYS been LEGAL for an eighteen year old to marry a 60,70, 80 or 90 year old and it HAS happened. Is it common though? Is it popular?

When will people realize that mere legality is not synonamous with common or popular, so there’s nothing to fear by just getting off of some peoples backs!…

By: Byron & Bruce

Byron & Bruce — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:45:48 +0000

What I am curious about is if the Constitution of the USA specifically states that congress can make no law in regard to any religion, why is this even being disputed in the first place??? The religious right uses the crazy notion that allowing same-sex marriage would threaten the sanctity of marriage as it is now. If that is such a sincere issue, then why aren’t they standing in the legal arena calling for 100% bans on divorce?? If you don’t personally approve of same-sex marriage–then don’t have one!! Leave everyone to make their own decisions!!

By: drewski

drewski — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:41:38 +0000

The whole thing brings up some memories of the end of apartheid in South Africa. The system was obviously unsustainable, but there were those who fought til the last to keep on doing something they knew was about to end. Also reminds me of the reforms in East Germany shortly before it imploded. People who crave power are very often scared people. When playing dirty, or rigging the system in their own favor, they prove that they can’t engage in an honest and open debate. When those people are cornered, they can’t back down–their fear pushes them to a more isolated and extreme end.

The Court may well be concerned about voter backlash, but upholding the validity of Prop 8 does far worse things. It attacks the notion of a socially liberal California. California relies on the value of that image to sell itself, like Florida and sunshine. Allowing Prop 8 to stand sets the stage for racist and anti-immigrant campaigns. In tough economic times especially, it’s too easy for someone with money to start pushing hate like that and see success.

By: R & R

R & R — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:16:27 +0000

I hope everyone heard our bible banging evangelicals state that they will initiate recall proceedings against any of the justices who vote against Prop 8. One would hope that HRC and the other organizations would very loudly make it very clear that if any such attempt is made to recall any justice they will initiate a campaign to defeat the attempt at the polls. Our justices need to hear this!!

By: Stuff Queer People Need To Know

Stuff Queer People Need To Know — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:53:24 +0000

I agree with the logic behind this case, regardless of the issue at hand. Let’s hope it works out.

http://stuffqueerpeopleneedtoknow.wordpress.com/

By: Bud Burgoon-Clark

Bud Burgoon-Clark — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:19:39 +0000

@ FRANKLY:

Engage brain before typing.

The CA Legislature has TWICE passed marriage equality bills (as stated in the article), only to have them vetoed by the Governator, who NOW says he SUPPORTS overturning Prop Hate, if you want to talk about Johnny-Come-Lately.

By: LOrion

LOrion — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:13:39 +0000

Oh well said Ginelle, including: ” What has happened with the passing of Proposition 8 in the State of California is a travesty of justice and if anything the people and groups, religious and otherwise, who were behind it’s passage, should feel great shame and remorse for their gang mentality in seeing this awful proposition through”

They do, all the people talked to before the election, still blather the same ‘reasons’ but noting how it has devastated the state, do feel remorse now. But as we are pushing them more and more into the corner, they are just digging in.

I do hope our Court continues in its brave way. I can’t wait to hear Jerry Brown on THURSDAY, and Minter!

By: Ginelle

Ginelle — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:43:04 +0000

A Democracy is for the rights of ALL people – to pit the rights of a majority against the rights of a minority should not and must not happen if a State or a Country is to retain it’s status as a Democracy. What has happened with the passing of Proposition 8 in the State of California is a travesty of justice and if anything the people and groups, religious and otherwise, who were behind it’s passage, should feel great shame and remorse for their gang mentality in seeing this awful proposition through. One can only hope that the wisdom and serious thought of the lawmakers and judges, will prevail by correcting this terrible injustice to the California Constitution and to the rights of ALL people of California.