November 21st, 2009
 

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Board: Discharge gay NY National Guard officer


(Syracuse) A military administrative board recommended Tuesday that a National Guard officer who publicly announced he’s gay should be discharged for violating the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

Lt. Dan Choi would be the first New York National Guard member discharged for violating the policy against homosexual conduct, said Lt. Col. Paul Fanning, a spokesman for the New York Army National Guard.

Choi, 28, appeared in Syracuse before a Federal Recognition Board, a panel of four military officers, which deliberated four hours before deciding to recommend the Army no longer recognize him as an officer. In essence, that amounts to a discharge, Fanning said.

Choi, a combat veteran, said it amounted to firing him “for nothing more than telling the truth about who I am.”

“I’m a leader. A setback is an opportunity to keep fighting, and I’m going to do that through my actions,” said Choi, who on Sunday was a celebrity grand marshal in San Francisco’s Gay Pride Parade.

The recommendation must be approved by the First Army commander and the chief of the National Guard Bureau before Choi is discharged, a process that could take anywhere from a few weeks to a year, said Maj. Roy Diehl, who represented Choi. Until then, Choi remains an active member of the National Guard, he said.

“It’s a recommendation, not a completed act,” Diehl said, adding he hoped military commanders would reconsider Choi’s value as a soldier.

Choi likely will receive an honorable or a general discharge and could lose some of his veteran educational benefits, Diehl said.

“They are taking effective troops … and kicking them out, removing them from the force just as effectively as if al-Qaida was blowing them up,” said Diehl, who claimed the military is more tolerant of drug abusers, malcontents and adulterers.

Choi, a 2003 West Point graduate, outed himself in March in the Army Times newspaper and on a nationally broadcast MSNBC show to protest the military’s policy, which he said forces soldiers to lie.

“It’s an immoral code that goes against every single thing we were ever taught at West Point with our honor code,” Choi said at the time.

His declaration was part of the launch of Knights Out, the first association representing gay and lesbian alumni of West Point. Already, Knights Out has at least 50 members who have publicly identified themselves on the group’s Web site. Choi is the only one still active in the military.

The “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was put in place in 1993 by former President Bill Clinton and forbids military recruiters from asking someone about his or her sexual orientation, but it also prohibits a service member from revealing if he or she is gay. About 10,500 military personnel were discharged for violating the policy between 1997 and last year, the Department of Defense said.

President Barack Obama has pledged to work to end the policy, but he has made no specific move to do so since taking office in January. The White House has said it won’t stop the military from dismissing gays who admit their sexuality.

Earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court turned down a challenge to the Pentagon policy forbidding gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military. The court refused to hear an appeal from former Army Capt. James Pietrangelo II, who was dismissed under the military’s policy while in the Vermont National Guard in 2004.

Fanning, the New York Army National Guard spokesman, said the law is the law.

“The military has no choice but to follow it,” Fanning said. “We don’t pick and choose what regulations to enforce.”

At West Point, Choi, a native of Tustin, Calif., majored in Arabic language and environmental engineering.

He served in Iraq with the 10th Mountain Division for 15 months in 2006 and 2007, leading combat patrols through a region called the Triangle of Death and serving as a translator and language instructor. He also helped rebuild schools and hospitals.

In 2008, he left the Army and joined the 1st Battalion, 69th Infantry of the New York National Guard, based in Manhattan.

The closed hearing was held in Syracuse because it is the headquarters of the 27th Brigade Combat Team, which oversees Choi’s National Guard unit, Fanning said.


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  • Ed Gould Said: July 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 am
    • So what do you expect to happen?
      Our fearless president has the option to do a stop order (which stops all discharged) . Do you think he will, NO. Obama used the gays to get elected and he is back tracking on every one of them.
      Get used to it its going downhill after this. I am sure he will enact some other form of discrimination as bad as DOMA or DADT. Ome can only guess how he will send us down the line like every other politician.
      You are the ones that supported him and those of us that knew better voted for another candidate.

  • Tim Said: July 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 am
    • I’m tired of Obama always trying to pass the buck to Congress on this one. He doesn’t need Congress’ approval, he can overturn it by himself, he just isn’t willing to do it. At the very least, he could order the damn generals not to kick any gay or lesbian service members out until Congress steps up to the plate and changes the law, but again, Obama is leaving our community hanging. So much for another one of his promises.

  • Tom Said: July 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    • I’m so f’ing mad about this. And I lay the blame square on obama. I think the real reason the military (and obama) are scared we’ll see them naked in the showers is we’ll realize they have no balls!

  • john sharp Said: July 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    • religions also forces one to lie
      our perants lie to us as kids
      nad the gouvements lie
      and in the army you need to lie
      beeing hoonnest does not pay in this world

  • vanndean Said: July 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    • Dave O’S Said: July 1st, 2009 at 5:03 pm *

      Now there is no excuse for the Dems with 60 seats…. no excuse whatsoever !

      Now what in the name of all that is Democratic makes you think that there are no homophobes or bigots in that precious group of 60? In your heart of hearts, do you really believe that you will ever get all sixty Democrats to vote for gay legislation. I believe it to be a “pipe” dream.

  • daydreamer Said: July 1st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    • First, Choi broke an existing law in an all volunteer military. It will be difficult to defend him. However, because he is an asset to the military it will be easier for the obama administration to argue to congress why it is important to over turn DADT to retain his talents.

  • Trace Said: July 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    • Come On Everyone! Honestly, Obama has said he’d study the issue! What do you want him to do? Be a leader? Jeeshh!

  • Sue B Said: July 1st, 2009 at 6:44 pm
    • Lets just say its a very sad thing that we as Americans (The Free) think more about who we go home to and love rather then someone putting their life on the line for all of us!!!!!!!

  • John B Said: July 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    • Hey Nurmi,

      Most people who have even a slight familiarity with the military are aware of the honour code. Only persons who equate service to one’s country with murder are so unaware as not to know. The military has served during disasters and times of crisis throughout our history. The vast majority of military persons never kill anyone and quite a few never even see combat. Your comments show you know nothing on this subject. Your right to free speech and comment, should be exercised responsibly by at least researching what the military does before you go off making ill-conceived remarks. And, yes, I’m a veteran and , yes, I’m gay, and, yes, I’m disappointed by the administration’s failure to address this.

  • Dave O'S Said: July 1st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    • Now there is no excuse for the Dems with 60 seats…. no excuse whatsoever ! Lt. Choi, you did the right thing. Stand for what you believe in and by your principles, thats what an officer is supposed to do. I salute you Sir !

  • Ian Said: July 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    • Dan Choi came out on Rachel Madddow on MSNBC. I really want Obama to sign an exective order saying that the policy will no longer be enforced and push congress to get rid of the law once and for all. I still have some confidence in Obama. But some people should really lay off him a little bit and focus more on the Democratic party as a hole. Now that Al Franken is now the 60th senator, there should be no excuse for them not to get pro-gay bills through congress (ex: ENDA, Matthew Shepard, repeal DADT & DOMA). Gays have always been a loyal supporters to Democrats. We campaigned for them, we gave them money, we voted for them in November, now they need to deliver on their end.

  • RavensWolf Said: July 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    • So not only is the U.S.C.M.J. selective it is now Discriminatory in a Round about way. Thanks “Bill.” You know the best fighters are 2 loves in battle because each will fight there Damndest to save the others life, why? Because we would fight harder to keep our lover alive, and if need be die with Valor and Honor by their side than live alone with a broken heart. The Greeks had it Right!

  • JERRY Said: July 1st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    • How brave of this soldier to not lie and how cowardly of our country to punish him for it!

  • Nikki Said: July 1st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
    • Why is it that it seems every gay person who is discharged happens to know arabic? Is there a big fascination with gays and learning middle eastern languages? At a time when we are having difficulties in Iraq due to the fact that (among other problems) we don’t have enough soldiers who speak the languages and can translate, are we seriously dismissing these precious soldiers with this rare and vital skill simply because of who they fall in love with? We are in a WAR! How can they imagine that we can afford such luxuries as having “perfect” heterosexual armies when these gays have such vital necessary skills! I believe the number, last time I checked although no doubt it has gone up, we had dismissed 300 precious and rare arabic speakers because they were gay. You know, if I was a republican patriot who thought sodomy should be illegal, as a U.S. PATRIOT hell I would be going to gay parades and RECRUITING all the gays that spoke Arabic! Is there never a time, even for bigoted and hateful homophobic Americans, where your love for your country and your desire to see it succeed in a war actually outweighs your absolute intolerance and refusal to so much as allow a gay person to be in the same room with u? It’s like there’s a bomb ticking in a house, and you won’t be able to get far enough in time to save yourself, but there’s a bomb diffuser expert in the room, but you kick him out of the house because he’s gay and god forbid you have a gay person in the room. By the way, Gays in the military isn’t this super progressive snooty European thing either. Even the Philippines recognize that a brave soldier is simply that, a person who loves her or his country.

  • Kyle Said: July 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    • In case anyone is interested Gates has been saying that DADT will be made more humane. Not going to appeal it or push for it to be appealed, just make it so someone outed through blackmail, jilted lover, or other third party will not be dismissed. Of course this is still way off in the distant future and he’ll probably get around to it by Summer 2012. So for any soldiers out there may your repsective deity or lack there of protect you, cause the US won’t.

 
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