November 21st, 2009
 

365 Gay: News

Black Vote Largely Favored Prop 8


(Washington) Aja and Miriam Aguirre rushed their trip to the altar in San Francisco a few weeks ago, fearful that the state of California might vote in favor of banning same-sex marriage on election day.

Their fears proved accurate.

Yet as angry as the newlyweds are, they’re almost as outraged at the suggestion that African-Americans are to blame, especially as the country basks in the glow of Barack Obama’s historic election.

“I refuse to perpetuate a cycle of oppression because someone is telling me who to blame, who is at fault for my status as a second-class citizen, where I might displace my anger and frustration and outrage,” Aja Aguirre said Sunday, despite fears that her marriage could conceivably be deemed illegitimate.

“I won’t do that because it is false in every way. I know better than that. I hope we all do.”

A bitterly ironic battle has erupted in California in the days since Obama was elected the first black president in American history, a victory many African-Americans are hoping signals an end to generations of repression.

Proposition 8, banning the right of same-sex couples to wed, passed by more than three percentage points in the reliably Democratic state.

Much of that margin came from a flood of as many as 500,000 new black voters turning out to cast their ballots for Obama. According to various polls, African-American voters supported the ban by 70-30 per cent, while whites were slightly opposed and Hispanics evenly split.

“I’m not sure what to do with this,” Dan Savage, a well-known gay advice columnist, wrote on his blog in the aftermath of the vote.

“I’m thrilled that we’ve just elected our first African-American president … but I can’t help feeling hurt that the love and support aren’t mutual.”

The African-American community, Savage said, has a problem with homophobia that needs to be confronted.

“I’m done pretending that the handful of racist gay white men out there -and they’re out there, and I think they’re scum – are a bigger problem for African-Americans, gay and straight, than the huge numbers of homophobic African-Americans are for gay Americans, whatever their color.”

In the midst of such heated talk and hurt feelings, a rally late last week against Proposition 8 in Los Angeles turned ugly.

“It was like being at a Klan rally except the Klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks,” said one attendee, a gay black man.

The UCLA student said he was twice called the n-word.

But many argue it’s not race that is to blame for Proposition 8, but the religious right. It was the Mormon church that pushed to get the measure on the ballot, after all.

Mormon church leaders badgered other Mormons countrywide to donate heavily to the campaign and recruited thousands of volunteers for door-to-door canvassing throughout the state.

Several progressive black church leaders urged Californians to vote against Proposition 8 in the weeks leading up the election, although they acknowledged African-Americans were “conservative” on the issue of same-sex marriage and so were many of their pastors.

And since black Americans go to church in greater numbers than other races, they’re confronted far more often with the suggestion that homosexuality is sinful.

“The success of Proposition 8 is certainly about religion more than anything else but there’s no denying those attitudes are ingrained in the black community – homosexuality just isn’t accepted the way it is in other communities,” says Toni-Michelle Travis, a political science professor who specializes in race at George Mason University in Virginia.

It stems back hundreds of years, Travis says.

“When you look at the struggles throughout slavery, the only way they were going to survive, to get to the next step and preserve anything culturally was to have children,” she said.

“So the value of the family and heterosexuality has always been very important, and it’s been reinforced by black churches over generations. The civil rights movement, too, was driven by the black churches, so church and religion are a very cherished part of the community. You belong to a church, and you listen to your pastor.”

Many African-Americans also fail to see the hardships facing gays and lesbians as being on the same scale as their epic battles for equality, Travis said.

“African-Americans don’t see the fights for the rights of gays the same as their struggle,” Travis said. “Their attitude is: `They wouldn’t let me vote, they wouldn’t give me a job, and you can do those sorts of things.”’

Gay and lesbian rights leaders in California are filing suit against Proposition 8, arguing it’s illegal because it strips a fundamental constitutional right from a select group of people.

Before such propositions can go to the ballot, they argue, the state legislature must approve them and that didn’t happen in California.

The Aguirres are confident their battle will eventually be won, especially after a San Francisco march last Friday night that was attended by people of all races and from all walks of life.

“There were friends, lovers and families like ours,” said Aja Aguirre, who has a 10-year-old daughter, Celeste.

“It felt so good to be there and be part of this effort not to back down, not be silenced or defeated. Seeing the thousands of people gathered together there peacefully brought tears to my eyes and was exactly what I needed to shake off the depression I’d been in since it became clear on election night that Prop. 8 would pass.”


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  • TheRadicalRealist Said: November 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
    • The problem is not the fact that African Americans have black skin. I highly doubt you would find any LGBT person who believes such a thing. The problem is the strong bond and mixing of black culture and protestant christianity. Black people are very attached to their christian beliefs, and in most christian circles, that includes homophobia. Half of my family is black; I would know. Unfortunately, blacks voted with idiotic religious rhetoric rather than their consciences on prop 8.
      Religion is the single biggest cause of homophobia in the US and in the world. Make no mistake.

  • LOrion Said: November 10th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
    • Blacks don’t see it that way, they are taught that HOMOSEXUALITY is a SIN, dirty, disgusting, immoral, WRONG..they could care less if gays have any rights…That is what must be corrected.
      And whats with the ‘after slavery’ mumbo jumbo..stuff. Fewer than 20% of black children come from 2 parent homes in 2008….not 1868. I am with Barack on this, black men must take the blame for not ‘making families’ just making babies.

  • Jack Said: November 10th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
    • The black community as a whole did not vote with on this. Rather than get upset with them, we need to ask why we think they should have, and more importantly, why they didn’t. Then we need to develop an outreach effort targeting both the African American and Latino communities.

      We need help organizing this effort. This is a truly cross-cultural endeavor. It would need to looked upon as a long term effort to both understand the black community, and to share our community with them.

      Without that kind of long term outreach and relationship building, black Christians will continue to feel more connected to white Christians than to white gays and will continue to vote against our issues.

  • Josh Said: November 10th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
    • Wow, so much blame to go around, blame the churches, blame the black people, how about a gay rights establishment that has operated through the courts for years instead of trying to presuade the very people that vote on measures like this. No court decision will stand in the long term without public support. Instead of trying to get this amendment overturned again in the court, we should mount a campaign to overturn in with another amendment at the next election. Gay marriage will not be legitmate or safe in california until it passes a referedum.

  • AlexH Said: November 10th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    • It’s a shame when minorities turn on one another. Everyone needs to WAKE UP and realize that we are all humans. I can understand someone having a problem with homosexuality because of their religious views…What I DON’T GET is how they think it’s ok to pass laws DICTATING their beliefs to everyone else?
      That’s NOT R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

  • MNBear Said: November 10th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
    • ##“African-Americans don’t see the fights for the rights of gays the same as their struggle,” Travis said.##

      Hmm – let’s see here.

      Able to get a job or do business in SOME establishments… but always with that lingering fear that you might be denied at the next one? CHECK.

      Denied basic legal rights that others take for granted? CHECK.

      Hated and reviled because of a simple fact about who we are? CHECK.

      Periodic violent attacks – and even murder – by the most extreme bigots? CHECK.

      Certainly there are differences between the struggles of blacks and those of GLBTQ people – both in degree and in character – but the basic similarities seem to outweigh them. That’s why it was so frustrating to see that 70-30 YES vote in the black demographic – and doubly frustrating to be accused of racism for criticizing it.

      No matter what politically-correct contortions we undergo in an attempt to dance around it, it remains a simple FACT that – for whatever reason – 70 percent of African-Americans who voted on 8 voted YES. And until we acknowledge that this is statistically significant, we won’t be able to figure out why this was the case. And until we figure out why, we’ll be unable to design an effective political strategy for seeking acceptance among African-Americans. That costs all gay people dearly – regardless of race (remember all those black LGBTQ folks on the “down-low”??)

  • sam Said: November 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
    • What I find infuriating is not just the fact that so many black ministers spew so much hatred towards gay people, but these so called men of God,have told their congregations to vote for Barrack Obama.

      What happened to the abortion issue from these black God fearing ministers!

      President elect Obama is a staunch supporter of abortion. Are they saying now, that abortion doesn’t matter to them, is not an issue any longer, just as long as a black man is elected to the office of president!

      What hypocrites, I am truly ashamed of all them. I guess hatred, bigotry and injustice, coupled with a double standard is par for their course.

      To quote Abraham Lincoln, those who would deny equality to others deserve it not for themselves.

  • Trace Said: November 10th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
    • blacksteel, it don’t get much more bigoted than Obama’s Faith & Values Tour. Maybe you missed them preaching hate in California, North Carolina, South Carolina and Florida.

  • Wayne Said: November 10th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
    • Wayne said: “DOESN’T ANYONE REMEMBER OBAMA AND THE BIGOT DONNIE McCLURKIN?” Doesn’t everyone remember that Wayne said he planned to vote for McCain/Palin


      and if more would have followed my lead, Prop 8 never would have passed but you were too busy giving praise to your messiah, how pathetic. So suck on it, BS, you’re a twat.

  • Wayne Said: November 10th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
    • OBAMA HAS A HISTORY OF EXPLOITING BLACK BIGOTRY AGAINST GAYS. THE ANTI-GAY BIGOT DONNIE McCLURKIN HAS A HISTORY WITH OBAMA (AND MICHELLE). NOT TO MENTION OBAMA’S FRIENDSHIP WITH CHICAGO’S NOTORIOUS HOMOPHOBE PASTOR MEEKS. AND OBAMA HAD NO PROBLEM LETTING “YES ON PROP 8″ ADVOCATES SHILL FOR THE OBAMA “FAITH TOURS”. THE TRUTH HURTS, BUT IT’S STILL TRUE. OBAMA WILL DO NOTHING FOR GAY RIGHTS.

  • blacksteel Said: November 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
    • Wayne said: “DOESN’T ANYONE REMEMBER OBAMA AND THE BIGOT DONNIE McCLURKIN?”

      Doesn’t everyone remember that Wayne said he planned to vote for McCain/Palin, who were supported by the bigoted religious right?

  • bud burgoon-clark Said: November 10th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
    • Every minority seemingly has to have another minority against whom they feel it is meet and right to discriminate.

      When the equal-marriage-rights question comes to NYC, you can be SURE the Hassidic ultra-orthodox rebbes from Brooklyn will be in the forefront of the “anti” side.

      You would think that they, and African-Americans of ALL people, would be HORRIFIED at discrimination of ANY kind.

      Evidently not.

      Sad.

      Blame the bigoted, ignorant religious groups: white, black, Hispanic, etc., especially the konservative kristianist krazies (KKK), and the Roman and Mormon PAGAN fertility cults!

      Bud Burgoon-Clark
      2nd class citizen here,
      but not in heaven

  • blacksteel Said: November 10th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
    • Here’s a prime example of how religious beliefs can the pervert the views of so many people, allowing them to convince themselves that they don’t hate gays, even as they attack gays.

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/gaymarriage.irpt/index.html – Same-sex marriage bans paradoxical in historic election

      “‘I don’t want a man and a man to be married. When I have kids, I don’t want them to see that.’ Still, he says he doesn’t hate gay people and has several gay friends. He emphasizes that he dislikes the fact that people are gay, but not the individuals themselves.”

  • Wayne Said: November 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
    • I not only blame the Black church and it’s blatant anti-gay bigotry, but I definately blame Obama as well. His campaign mobilized the very community that voted against us! Obama had “Faith Tours” that targeted Black Churches, and these “Faith Tours” were headlined by YES ON PROP 8 Advocates. They shilled for Obama on one hand and the passage of Prop 8 on the other. And it WORKED! Obama has been exploiting the homophobia within the Black community in a disgusting effort to garner votes for his presidential run from the very beginning. Obama started kicked off the South Carolina primary by exploiting Black bigotry against gays. DOESN’T ANYONE REMEMBER OBAMA AND THE BIGOT DONNIE McCLURKIN?

  • Greg747 Said: November 10th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
    • I am still smarting from the major slap in the face from my Black and Latino brother and sisters.
      I don’t care how anyone rationalises this vote – it was wrong and disgusting.
      Have we learned nothing from Dr and Mrs King?
      Every person of color who voted for Prop 8 should be ashamed of themselves.
      Look in the mirror and see how you have now become the oppressor.
      Congrats.

 
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