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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the conservatives in this conversation...do you propose tax cuts to get us out of this mess? What&#039;s the answer if it&#039;s not the one the NEW administration has put forth. Don&#039;t just criticize, educate us....what&#039;s the conservative way out of this chaos 8 years of conservatism has gotten us into? And don&#039;t say W is not a conservative. If he&#039;s not, then who is? If I were a fiscal conservative I would definitely want to kick W out of my camp too, but he&#039;s all yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the conservatives in this conversation&#8230;do you propose tax cuts to get us out of this mess? What&#8217;s the answer if it&#8217;s not the one the NEW administration has put forth. Don&#8217;t just criticize, educate us&#8230;.what&#8217;s the conservative way out of this chaos 8 years of conservatism has gotten us into? And don&#8217;t say W is not a conservative. If he&#8217;s not, then who is? If I were a fiscal conservative I would definitely want to kick W out of my camp too, but he&#8217;s all yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter LaBarbera is not a terrorist.  He is not a Nazi either (though I&#039;m willing to bet he&#039;d love the way he looks in one of those cross-the-chest leather belt thingies, if there&#039;s any Leatherman in that obviously immense load of homosexuality he&#039;s desperately repressing).  Peter LaBarbera is a chicken - the GOP&#039;s chicken to be exact - and he&#039;s coming home to roost.  The ultimate tragedy of the modern GOP is that they thump the bible so hard the sound drowns out the core of Jesus&#039;s message: hate just generates more hate.  Demonizing one group of people or another may just be a political tactic for you, but slipping through that door right behind you is somebody who&#039;s not just amoral, he&#039;s actively nuts.  He believes the people you&#039;re only demonizing are literal demons, and no amount of hurt you can lay down on them is going to appease his bloodlust.  Peter LaBarbera is the GOP&#039;s prodigal son, and they might as well kill a calf or two (after carefully checking to make sure the calves aren&#039;t gay), because he&#039;s home, and he&#039;s not going anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter LaBarbera is not a terrorist.  He is not a Nazi either (though I&#8217;m willing to bet he&#8217;d love the way he looks in one of those cross-the-chest leather belt thingies, if there&#8217;s any Leatherman in that obviously immense load of homosexuality he&#8217;s desperately repressing).  Peter LaBarbera is a chicken &#8211; the GOP&#8217;s chicken to be exact &#8211; and he&#8217;s coming home to roost.  The ultimate tragedy of the modern GOP is that they thump the bible so hard the sound drowns out the core of Jesus&#8217;s message: hate just generates more hate.  Demonizing one group of people or another may just be a political tactic for you, but slipping through that door right behind you is somebody who&#8217;s not just amoral, he&#8217;s actively nuts.  He believes the people you&#8217;re only demonizing are literal demons, and no amount of hurt you can lay down on them is going to appease his bloodlust.  Peter LaBarbera is the GOP&#8217;s prodigal son, and they might as well kill a calf or two (after carefully checking to make sure the calves aren&#8217;t gay), because he&#8217;s home, and he&#8217;s not going anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>standing up for Trace here...he never mentioned &quot;Republican&quot;.  He said what conservatism is.

Republicans simply aren&#039;t conservative anymore.

And for the person who suggested we conservatives (voted liberatarian here so don&#039;t bother.....) not accept social security, that idiotic argument is very old.  Why would we not accept that which we have paid for, all the while working to eliminate paying for it?

I&#039;m not going to refuse my meager social security check....I&#039;ve paid the max every year for dozens of years....anything coming to me is my money already!

But I will continue to speak out against the obscene size of our government and this ridiculous non-stimulus plan.

Even conservatives can admit we need a stimulus (there is a big difference in adhering to a philosophy and being an idealog about it...the former can bend and apply moderation when necessary).  But this is no stimulus, at least most of it.

Paying off Philipino vets?  There are many things in here that Ram and the rest of Obama&#039;s cronies were referring to when he said &quot;never waste  a crisis&quot;.

It may feel good to support democrats since they at times say the right things about us, but actions would be much stronger and there is so much more to the political world than our equality.  If they can&#039;t deliver on that why let them stray from the stimulus simply because they stray towards liberal social programs?

I&#039;ve paid off many mortgages and the fact that I will now subsidize those that choose not to is maddening.  And that has nothing to do with gay rights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>standing up for Trace here&#8230;he never mentioned &#8220;Republican&#8221;.  He said what conservatism is.</p>
<p>Republicans simply aren&#8217;t conservative anymore.</p>
<p>And for the person who suggested we conservatives (voted liberatarian here so don&#8217;t bother&#8230;..) not accept social security, that idiotic argument is very old.  Why would we not accept that which we have paid for, all the while working to eliminate paying for it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to refuse my meager social security check&#8230;.I&#8217;ve paid the max every year for dozens of years&#8230;.anything coming to me is my money already!</p>
<p>But I will continue to speak out against the obscene size of our government and this ridiculous non-stimulus plan.</p>
<p>Even conservatives can admit we need a stimulus (there is a big difference in adhering to a philosophy and being an idealog about it&#8230;the former can bend and apply moderation when necessary).  But this is no stimulus, at least most of it.</p>
<p>Paying off Philipino vets?  There are many things in here that Ram and the rest of Obama&#8217;s cronies were referring to when he said &#8220;never waste  a crisis&#8221;.</p>
<p>It may feel good to support democrats since they at times say the right things about us, but actions would be much stronger and there is so much more to the political world than our equality.  If they can&#8217;t deliver on that why let them stray from the stimulus simply because they stray towards liberal social programs?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve paid off many mortgages and the fact that I will now subsidize those that choose not to is maddening.  And that has nothing to do with gay rights!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does &quot;Michael Steele&quot; sound like a gay porn star name to anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8220;Michael Steele&#8221; sound like a gay porn star name to anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, in a very short while it WILL be possible for two males to produce offspring which will be GENETICALLY related to them.  It&#039;s called SSP(same Sex Procreation).  It will be achieved through Stem Cell Research and will involve the creation of a male egg which can be united with a male sperm.  The embryo is then transplanted into a surrogate uterus for growth and development.  So, yes, Morgan in a sense we gay men shall be able to &quot;create&quot; our own sons and be fathers.  this technology isn&#039;t as far off as you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, in a very short while it WILL be possible for two males to produce offspring which will be GENETICALLY related to them.  It&#8217;s called SSP(same Sex Procreation).  It will be achieved through Stem Cell Research and will involve the creation of a male egg which can be united with a male sperm.  The embryo is then transplanted into a surrogate uterus for growth and development.  So, yes, Morgan in a sense we gay men shall be able to &#8220;create&#8221; our own sons and be fathers.  this technology isn&#8217;t as far off as you think.</p>
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		<title>By: TigerTzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>TigerTzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan, you usually make more sense than is evident in your previous post.  Not sure where the &quot;call to breed&quot; comes from, but I think I see a flaw in your theory.  Just because gay parents raise or even breed a child is no guarantee the kid will turn out to be gay.  If this were the case, then there would probably be no gay people at all as I am sure hetero couples would opt out of having gay children if it were that simple.  I&#039;m guessing/hoping your post was some sort of tongue-in-cheek humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan, you usually make more sense than is evident in your previous post.  Not sure where the &#8220;call to breed&#8221; comes from, but I think I see a flaw in your theory.  Just because gay parents raise or even breed a child is no guarantee the kid will turn out to be gay.  If this were the case, then there would probably be no gay people at all as I am sure hetero couples would opt out of having gay children if it were that simple.  I&#8217;m guessing/hoping your post was some sort of tongue-in-cheek humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the queer/ gay community,

Adopt or get fertilized or find a lesbian surrogate mother willing to bear a child for you male couples.

It still takes a sperm meeting an egg to create another future gay male or future lesbian. I want to see lots more young gay men and young gay women in our community, I don&#039;t want to see mostly just middle-aged and elderly gay folk making up the majority of gay couples in our community. AGAIN, THE HARSH REALITY IS THAT WE GAY FOLK NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE PROCREATING OURSELVES and quit doing the eeewww, we just can&#039;t do that breeder stuff, Ewww, we don&#039;t want to raise kids.... 
BREED with willing people, or get fertility services, surrogates, adopt etc. and pass down your community values to the next wave of gay raised/gay young people and with the politics the way they still are against us, DO IT NOW, OR SEE THE COMMUNITY DIMINISH over the years. There are options like adopting a child in need of a good home and a loving gay couple, and the means for lesbians to get inseminated in states where the state law doesn&#039;t interfere with a non-hetero female couple obtaining those fertility services or with adopting.

Either just do it, and take responsibility for creating or adopting a kid, or if you can&#039;t or won&#039;t or don&#039;t want to get with this program to continue our community via new gay youth out of own efforts for those of us who still phyically able and who still have the physical and emotional stamina and energy needed for the task of raising youngsters....
.... or please stop the bitching about the straight TAB A into SLOT B breeders who put us queers here on planet earth so that we can bitch about those who put us here.
Time to stop the ewww we just can&#039;t be a breeder, ewww, we don&#039;t want the responsibility of raising kids, NO KIDS= NO HOMOS...no queers and no fabulous gay male or lesbian eye candy walking past our aging and dimming eyes.

GET THE DRIFT? STOP THE WHINING AND BREED HOWEVER YOU CAN OR WANT OR ADOPT AND PASS DOWN TOLERANCE AND RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY AND OTHER COMMUNITY VALUES OR BECOME A RARE SPECIES OR FOREVER IN THE &quot;VAST&quot; MINORITY!

HOW DO HETEROSEXUALS STAY IN THE &quot;VAST&quot; MAJORITY, THEY BREED. And a good thing they do, otherwise there would be very few queers or gays (depending on which term is preferred by whom) in various age groups around to bitch about stright breeders on February 20th, 21st, or 22nd, or 23rd, or 24th or 25th of 2009 and into the forseeable future.

By not taking the responsibility for breeding and creating more of our own brand new community members and of our own allies ourselves WE ARE SH***ING on our own selves and on our own potentially supportive gay community and future supportive allies (in the event both derived both are from our own gay/queer loins).

Something to thing very long and very hard about, about whether we are going to contribute to the future of our community OURSELVES or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the queer/ gay community,</p>
<p>Adopt or get fertilized or find a lesbian surrogate mother willing to bear a child for you male couples.</p>
<p>It still takes a sperm meeting an egg to create another future gay male or future lesbian. I want to see lots more young gay men and young gay women in our community, I don&#8217;t want to see mostly just middle-aged and elderly gay folk making up the majority of gay couples in our community. AGAIN, THE HARSH REALITY IS THAT WE GAY FOLK NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE PROCREATING OURSELVES and quit doing the eeewww, we just can&#8217;t do that breeder stuff, Ewww, we don&#8217;t want to raise kids&#8230;.<br />
BREED with willing people, or get fertility services, surrogates, adopt etc. and pass down your community values to the next wave of gay raised/gay young people and with the politics the way they still are against us, DO IT NOW, OR SEE THE COMMUNITY DIMINISH over the years. There are options like adopting a child in need of a good home and a loving gay couple, and the means for lesbians to get inseminated in states where the state law doesn&#8217;t interfere with a non-hetero female couple obtaining those fertility services or with adopting.</p>
<p>Either just do it, and take responsibility for creating or adopting a kid, or if you can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t or don&#8217;t want to get with this program to continue our community via new gay youth out of own efforts for those of us who still phyically able and who still have the physical and emotional stamina and energy needed for the task of raising youngsters&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;. or please stop the bitching about the straight TAB A into SLOT B breeders who put us queers here on planet earth so that we can bitch about those who put us here.<br />
Time to stop the ewww we just can&#8217;t be a breeder, ewww, we don&#8217;t want the responsibility of raising kids, NO KIDS= NO HOMOS&#8230;no queers and no fabulous gay male or lesbian eye candy walking past our aging and dimming eyes.</p>
<p>GET THE DRIFT? STOP THE WHINING AND BREED HOWEVER YOU CAN OR WANT OR ADOPT AND PASS DOWN TOLERANCE AND RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY AND OTHER COMMUNITY VALUES OR BECOME A RARE SPECIES OR FOREVER IN THE &#8220;VAST&#8221; MINORITY!</p>
<p>HOW DO HETEROSEXUALS STAY IN THE &#8220;VAST&#8221; MAJORITY, THEY BREED. And a good thing they do, otherwise there would be very few queers or gays (depending on which term is preferred by whom) in various age groups around to bitch about stright breeders on February 20th, 21st, or 22nd, or 23rd, or 24th or 25th of 2009 and into the forseeable future.</p>
<p>By not taking the responsibility for breeding and creating more of our own brand new community members and of our own allies ourselves WE ARE SH***ING on our own selves and on our own potentially supportive gay community and future supportive allies (in the event both derived both are from our own gay/queer loins).</p>
<p>Something to thing very long and very hard about, about whether we are going to contribute to the future of our community OURSELVES or not.</p>
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		<title>By: drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFTAH is one of many groups which have been given life by GOP money and activists.  It&#039;s an unholy alliance which has damn near destroyed the GOP--and yet the GOP still can&#039;t take the opportunity to stop nattering on about who has sex with whom.  AFTAH is like one of those splinter groups funded by Hezbollah.  If a Hezbollah-funded group qualifies as a terrorist operation by its very existence, then AFTAH and others might want to think twice about their actions.  Let&#039;s see...repressive theocracy takes economy on wild ride which doesn&#039;t end well...check...forces keeping government in power also fund other groups to spread their right-wing theocratic worldview...check...clear path from government policies to groups demonstrated by consistent message and murky but consistent flow of cash...check.  So yes, AFTAH is at least as much a threat to the US as any Hezbollah sympathizer.  Chew on that, Fox News fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTAH is one of many groups which have been given life by GOP money and activists.  It&#8217;s an unholy alliance which has damn near destroyed the GOP&#8211;and yet the GOP still can&#8217;t take the opportunity to stop nattering on about who has sex with whom.  AFTAH is like one of those splinter groups funded by Hezbollah.  If a Hezbollah-funded group qualifies as a terrorist operation by its very existence, then AFTAH and others might want to think twice about their actions.  Let&#8217;s see&#8230;repressive theocracy takes economy on wild ride which doesn&#8217;t end well&#8230;check&#8230;forces keeping government in power also fund other groups to spread their right-wing theocratic worldview&#8230;check&#8230;clear path from government policies to groups demonstrated by consistent message and murky but consistent flow of cash&#8230;check.  So yes, AFTAH is at least as much a threat to the US as any Hezbollah sympathizer.  Chew on that, Fox News fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised by the gay community&#039;s continued support of the Democratic party at the national level. They have done nothing for us except assume we have no choice but to vote for them because Republicans are worse (and to ask us for money every four years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised by the gay community&#8217;s continued support of the Democratic party at the national level. They have done nothing for us except assume we have no choice but to vote for them because Republicans are worse (and to ask us for money every four years).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism has nothing to do with being anti-gay, anti-environment or greedy.

Conservatism has everything to do with personal responsibility and for less government intrusion.
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that may have been the truth 20 years ago but it&#039;s isn&#039;t anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism has nothing to do with being anti-gay, anti-environment or greedy.</p>
<p>Conservatism has everything to do with personal responsibility and for less government intrusion.<br />
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<p>that may have been the truth 20 years ago but it&#8217;s isn&#8217;t anymore.</p>
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