February 9th, 2010
 

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Analysis: Gays targeting Mormons over marriage


(Salt Lake City) Supporters of gay marriage, frustrated over a ballot-box defeat in California, have channeled much of their anger toward the towering white spires of Mormon temples.

For months, the Mormon church sought to portray itself as just one member of a coalition of Catholics, evangelicals, black Protestants and others supporting Proposition 8, a measure to stop gay marriage in California.

Some opponents of the measure sought to dispel that in the campaign’s final weeks, pointing to extensive Mormon organizing and the staggering amount of money donated by individual Mormons at the behest of church leaders in Salt Lake City.

Since the measure’s passage last week, media outlets reported chants of “Mormon scum” and slurs against church founder Joseph Smith at a demonstration outside a Los Angeles-area temple, and a church meeting-house was vandalized. More Mormon-specific protests are in the works.

The backlash against Mormons has ignited a debate over whether the church deserves to be singled out for what opponents believe was a dishonest campaign or is an easy political target as a minority religion that has taken plenty of lumps.

“I think it is a purely tactical reaction from those who are supporting gay marriage because if it can be made to appear the opposition is essentially one religion that is, frankly, an often misunderstood religion, it’s easier to make the case that the other side is reasonable,” said Michael Otterson, spokesman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the Mormon church.

Proposition 8 opponents denounced vandalism and violence, and some have spoken out against anti-Mormon rhetoric. But they also say Mormon money funded irresponsible ads, like one suggesting young children would be required to learn about homosexuality in schools.

“I don’t think the Mormon church stepped outside the boundaries available to any faith community that wants to get organized on values they hold dear,” said Lindi Ramsden, a Unitarian minister who organized interfaith opposition to the measure. “The part that saddens me is that money donated by people of faith was used to finance advertising that is as close to blatant lies as you can get.”

Even so, Ramsden sent an e-mail to allies this week warning against making scapegoats of any one group, including Mormons and blacks, who also strongly backed the measure.

The Mormon church’s Proposition 8 efforts represent its strongest push into politics since it opposed the Equal Right Amendment in the 1970s.

The church believes traditional marriage is best for society. Heterosexual marriage is also central to Mormon theology; Mormons believe their marriages are keys to eternal life.

In June, the LDS First Presidency, its highest governing body, announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter read at every congregation. Members were asked to donate their “means and time” to the effort to undo a May court decision that legalized gay marriage in California and opened the door for 18,000 same-gender couples to wed in the past four months.

One factor in Mormons becoming an opposition target was Mormonsfor8.com, a Web site founded by Nadine Hansen, a 61-year-old semiretired lawyer from Cedar City, Utah.

Because the church itself did not donate money to the campaign, Hansen sought to identify Mormon donors of $1,000 or more, matching campaign records to tips from site visitors and church members and what she and others uncovered with search engines.

The site attributes $15 million in donations to Mormons, or nearly half the Yes on 8 war chest in a state where Mormons make up 2 percent of the population.

Originally, the site named Mormon givers, but Hansen said she changed it to include only first names and last-name initials over concerns Mormons would be hate-crime targets.

“For months, these sacred houses of worship were the precinct offices, members were called to be campaign workers and ward lists were turned into voter rosters,” Hansen said. “Basically, if the church wants to know why Mormon sacred places are targeted, look in the mirror.”

Hansen said she is a Mormon but does not attend church. Otterson, the church spokesman, said the church recognizes freedom to demonstrate, but hopes it is in “good taste and respectful.”

Some gay marriage backers in California began taking a sharper tone against Mormons in October. The liberal group Courage Campaign organized an online petition asking LDS Church President Thomas Monson to stop bearing false witness, among other things.

On Election Night, the group aired a controversial ad that depicted Mormon missionaries ransacking a lesbian couple’s house and destroying their marriage certificate.

“All it did was dramatize what the church wanted to do and in fact did do,” said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the Courage Campaign. He said religious bigotry was not at work.

“There is no place in America for anything but an embrace – not just tolerance – of people’s religious beliefs,” Jacobs said. “Equally, I would say great caution should be exercised when people try to restrict people’s rights.”

Dale Carpenter, a University of Minnesota law professor who opposed Proposition 8, said singling out the Mormon church is wrong. He called it “selective indignation,” and said some Mormons publicly opposed the measure and others backed it for deeply held beliefs, not bigotry.

“It’s especially inappropriate to target the physical buildings – the places of worship themselves – because that invites the kind of religious intolerance we have suffered too much of in the history of this country,” Carpenter said.

Roman Catholic Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento also defended Mormons, calling the backlash “serious religious bigotry.”

Gay-marriage backers “look at this whole thing as a discrimination issue. And they’re giving the same, in a sense, to Mormons and other religious people,” Weigand said in an interview.

Protests also have been staged at a Catholic cathedral and an Orange County megachurch led by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren, who endorsed Proposition 8.

But if anything, gay-rights activists are intensifying their focus on the Mormon church. Building on protests at LDS temples in California and Salt Lake City in the past week, they went on to plan a demonstration Wednesday night at the church’s temple in Manhattan.

Gay rights activists have proposed tourism boycotts in Utah and challenges to the church’s tax exempt status. For every $5 the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center raises to fight the gay-marriage ban, the group promises to send a postcard to Monson, the church president.

“They weren’t the only conservative sort of extremist anti-gay religious group that got involved in the campaign,” said Lorri L. Jean, the center’s chief executive officer. “But nobody did what they did.”

Some Mormon scholars believe more is at work than anger against Mormons flexing financial and organizational muscle. Armand Mauss, a retired Washington State University sociologist, said the campaign laid bare a “latent anti-Mormon undercurrent.”

Anti-Mormon rhetoric is politically safe because Mormons remain a relatively small minority and “have never been completely assimilated as ‘normal Americans’ to completely live down the image of ‘weirdness’ inherited from the 19th century,” Mauss said in an e-mail.

The evangelical mantra that Mormons aren’t Christian – as well as this year’s raid in Texas of a polygamist sect, a group not always distinguished from mainstream Mormonism – feeds into that, he said.

Richard Davis, a political science professor at church-owned Brigham Young University, said intolerance of Mormons extends from the secular left to the religious right. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Mormonism was attacked by some evangelicals – Mormon allies on Proposition 8.

“That’s where the LDS church is right now,” Davis said, “despite years of efforts to improve the image of the church.”

 


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  • Jon in Canada Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
    • To Mormons, Catholics and to all who voted on this assault of gay freedom, permit me to quote from the ‘good’ book:

      “..and verily I say unto you, as ye sow, so shall you reap”

  • Chris Sullivan Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
    • The Catholic Church, as USUAL, is also responsible for this travesty and should be called to task as well!

      “Roman Catholic Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento also defended Mormons, calling the backlash “serious religious bigotry.””

      Oh really? I guess that makes you just a plain BIGOt doesn’t it?

      Bishop Weigand – GO [SCREW] YOURSELF!

  • Chris Pless Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
    • Oh please…how dare the Mormons try to make themselves out victims. The LDS church has a long history of intolerance and should be held accountable for their actions.

  • Chris Pless Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
    • Amen, Jon in Canada!

  • TheRadicalRealist Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
    • You’ve got to love the religious filth-pushers. Every time they step all over someone else’s rights in the name of their beliefs, they cry ‘religious intolerance’ when people hold them accountable for spreading their trash and lies. Listen you delusional, magic-underpants wearing, idiotic sister fuckers: YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO INFRINGE UPON MY RIGHTS!

      These right-wing churches are nothing but brainwashing centers for all their sheep. Anything the church tells them to do, they do. They are an army of evil that needs to be stopped. They cannot continue to be tax-free, essentially making us pay taxes for them, and then turn around and mass-sponsor the taking away of our civil rights!

      Their god damn feelings are hurt? Fuck ‘em! Religion is responsible for many, many atrocities of the past, and they are not going to stop pushing their ancient crap on us any time soon unless we make them! Now, they want to cry ‘persecution’? FUCK THEM!

  • Lee Said: November 13th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
    • Mormons, like the Catholics, are inherently EVIL in their push to discriminate against the gay populace. They have always subjugated their women, and many wives, and like the Catholics, demonize gays as sub-human.

      I feel that these so-called religions should have their tax-exempt status removed.

  • Jeffrey Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
    • And why is it that there are no protests in front of black churches? Of course you already know the answer. Because it would be un-PC. We need to get very politically incorrect and put the blame where it is due regardless of whether they’re Democrats or Obama voters! If you think you can selectively persecute the LDS because they’re “enemy” Republicans, and not say a peep to our “friend” black protestant churches, you (we) are the worst kind of hypocrite.

  • Andre Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
    • For all those that are trying to defend the Mormon church or any other group, remember that discrimination has been written into the constitution. The same constitution that should protect everyone. Now that discrimination is law, we can discriminate against anyone. Discrimination has no reason. Maybe the only groups that are safe are the ones that have never experienced prejudice!!

  • Michelle Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
    • How many gay people have been emotionally abused by religion? How many gays have been disowned by their family because of their family’s religion? These churches are the very source of the oppression and discrimination many of us have experienced in a very personal way, not just on civil rights.

  • Michael Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
    • In assigning blame and identifying the enemies of gay civil rights, you have to follow the money. And that leads right to the Mormon church of intolerance, bigotry and hate. Some current estimates put the figure donated by Mormons at $20+ million of over 70% of the dollars spent on the campaign! And that doesn’t include the resources and money and people put forth by the Mormon creeps to get the initiative on the ballot (the church put up $2 million for professional signature gatherers etc).

      Finally, the truth is coming out about the depth of mormon hatred towards gays and lesbians: current news accounts show that they have been strategizing since 1997 to prevent us from marrying! The strategy was directed specifically at gays and lesbians. Not ‘protecting marriage’ as they are fond of suggesting. They even can be said to have started earlier. For an excellent (albeit chilling) account of the history here, google the following: Richard crapo gay marriage Mormon chronology. Mr Crapo’s working paper is a must read for those serious about getting mormons an all churches out of politics once and for all!

  • Mark Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
    • The LDS Elders have been planning this for 10 years. It was peobably their ace in a hole to get Mitt elected.
      To quote Hosea 8:7
      “They have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

  • Michael Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
  • blacksteel Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
    • 365gay.com could do itself and the gay community a major service by not publishing unedited articles from the Associated Press. Those articles are designed for a general audience, not for gays, and are often filled with statements antithetical to gay interests, as the one above is.

      I can read Associated Press articles on other sites and find alternate views elsewhere. At 365gay.com, I expect to find information, resources and arguments that advocate for gay interests. Otherwise, what’s the point of the site?

  • Guy in SF Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
    • "The site attributes $15 million in donations to Mormons, or nearly half the
      Yes on 8 war chest in a state where Mormons make up 2 percent of the
      population."

      The LDS Church members contributed a disapportionate amount of money towards
      the support of Proposition 8 compared to their numbers.  This is the real
      reason the Mormons are being targeted for protests, not their religious beliefs! 
      This money was used to fund the lies and mistruths to instill fear in voters to
      vote for Yes on 8.

       

  • TigerTzu Said: November 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    • I suppose they figured we would just sit back and take it like we pretty much did when they passed similar amendments in other states. The Mormons certainly deserve the backlash they are receiving, but lets not forget their allies. Florida also passed a hate amendment which was supported primarily by the Republican party (over $ 1 million donated by the Repub. party) with the help of Catholics and Christians (particularly Southern Baptists). We need to target every one of these hate-filled religions and their tax-exempt status. EVERYONE who voted against equality or contributed to the campaign of hate should be held accountable.

      “Proposition 8 opponents denounced vandalism and violence, and some have spoken out against anti-Mormon rhetoric.”

      And when a gay man’s house was burned down or an elderly gay couple were murdered because of their orientation did they cry out against that violence and vandalism? “If they property gets destroyed or injuries occur I say “tough shit”. They should have thought about that before they organized to make us 2nd class citizens.

      “I don’t think the Mormon church stepped outside the boundaries available to any faith community that wants to get organized on values they hold dear,” said Lindi Ramsden, a Unitarian minister who organized interfaith opposition to the measure.”

      You may not think so, but the federal laws governing PACs and tax-exempt religions spell it out quite clearly. I am so tired of our own Uncle Tom’s trying to treat our enemies with kid’s gloves. This kind of passivity is exactly why it has taken so long to make almost no progress in our civil rights.

      “Otterson, the church spokesman, said the church recognizes freedom to demonstrate, but hopes it is in “good taste and respectful.”

      Completely unlike their campaign of fear and lies against us. I say whats good for the goose is good for the gander. You dont deserve respect and obviously dont know the meaning of “good taste” as apparent by your campaign commercials.

      “Dale Carpenter, a University of Minnesota law professor who opposed Proposition 8, said singling out the Mormon church is wrong. He called it “selective indignation,” and said some Mormons publicly opposed the measure and others backed it for deeply held beliefs, not bigotry.”

      Dale sounds like another apologist Uncle Tom to me. I agree we should not single out the Mormons, just use it as a starting point but continue on to the Catholics and Christians as well. Also, I got news for you Dale. Their “deeply-held beliefs” are nothing short of prejusice disguised as religion. It IS bigotry, plain and simple.

      ““It’s especially inappropriate to target the physical buildings – the places of worship themselves – because that invites the kind of religious intolerance we have suffered too much of in the history of this country,” Carpenter said.”

      Wrong Dale. It is well past time for the gay community to show some religious intolerance for a change as opposed to being the victims of religious intolerance for decades. Honestly, people like you disgust me. All sympathy and concern for our enmemies. Its wimps like you that have made us appear to be a weak target for so long.

      “Roman Catholic Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento also defended Mormons, calling the backlash “serious religious bigotry.” Gay-marriage backers “look at this whole thing as a discrimination issue. And they’re giving the same, in a sense, to Mormons and other religious people,” Weigand said in an interview.”

      Guess you should have thought about that before you threw your hypocritical two cents into the issue. After almost 2,000 years of atrocities committed by the Catholic church in which you have made the Nazis look like bumbling amateurs, you have the audacity to point fingers at anyone?

      Bring them all down. Organized relgion in general is the greatest bane humanity has every encountered. It is the single greatest threat to liberty, equality and justice. Time for this dinosaur to die.

 
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