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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’d like to make one last note. Someone mentioned the 98% of Alberta’s geography outside of the cities, however 73% live in the Edmonton-Calgary corridor. This is no different than say the regional differences of BC or Ontario. Are the attitudes towards LGBT the same in Prince George as they are on Davies Street, or in Timmins as they are in Toronto?
Again, my view is a little skewed as I mostly interact with others the same age as me, where there is a visible difference in views towards LGBT people. Young straight guys in Alberta don’t have a problem with Gays, at least not that I’ve seen. And I’m sure this is different than Alberta 10, 20, 30 years ago. I’ve met a lot of gay guys who have come from Newfoundland and Saskatchewan and love the difference. 
The only reason I commented in the first place is because it actually hurt me to read the comments towards Alberta. I just want to offer my view as a 21 y.o. gay man in Alberta, who is totally happy with the way it is here, and can’t wait to see the changes throughout my life, which I plan on spending here. (Except maybe I’ll retire in Palm Springs ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to make one last note. Someone mentioned the 98% of Alberta’s geography outside of the cities, however 73% live in the Edmonton-Calgary corridor. This is no different than say the regional differences of BC or Ontario. Are the attitudes towards LGBT the same in Prince George as they are on Davies Street, or in Timmins as they are in Toronto?<br />
Again, my view is a little skewed as I mostly interact with others the same age as me, where there is a visible difference in views towards LGBT people. Young straight guys in Alberta don’t have a problem with Gays, at least not that I’ve seen. And I’m sure this is different than Alberta 10, 20, 30 years ago. I’ve met a lot of gay guys who have come from Newfoundland and Saskatchewan and love the difference.<br />
The only reason I commented in the first place is because it actually hurt me to read the comments towards Alberta. I just want to offer my view as a 21 y.o. gay man in Alberta, who is totally happy with the way it is here, and can’t wait to see the changes throughout my life, which I plan on spending here. (Except maybe I’ll retire in Palm Springs <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate to the opinion of Matthew from Sherwood Park. Although I&#039;m not Canadian, based on what he describes it sounds reasonable to me at this time. I&#039;m familiar with the New York City and SF gay scenes which are fine in their own way, it doesn&#039;t mean every city needs to be the same. A lower-key approach isn&#039;t always backward or the worst approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to the opinion of Matthew from Sherwood Park. Although I&#8217;m not Canadian, based on what he describes it sounds reasonable to me at this time. I&#8217;m familiar with the New York City and SF gay scenes which are fine in their own way, it doesn&#8217;t mean every city needs to be the same. A lower-key approach isn&#8217;t always backward or the worst approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/alberta-is-last-canadian-province-to-enshrine-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-54663</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This surely sounds like it’s coming from someone who is in denial or someone doesn’t follow politics.&quot;

Actually I attend the U of A and am aspiring to be a Social Studies teacher, so I am absolutely aware of Alberta politics. Yes we may be behind other Canadian provinces, but we&#039;re still ahead of 90% of the World in terms of gay rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This surely sounds like it’s coming from someone who is in denial or someone doesn’t follow politics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I attend the U of A and am aspiring to be a Social Studies teacher, so I am absolutely aware of Alberta politics. Yes we may be behind other Canadian provinces, but we&#8217;re still ahead of 90% of the World in terms of gay rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve not experienced any troubles in Edmonton. Generally speaking, neither have we in dealing with the public (save for the few inevitable stares and &quot;ugh, look lesbians&quot; comments, which are par for the course every now and then). But then I have a white straight friend who was dating a black guy, and they were yelled at on several different occasions while walking down Whyte ave hand in hand (the &quot;n&quot; word was used). That&#039;s just the general public in Alberta. As a gay person, try dealing with the gov&#039;t or even some of the larger gov&#039;t supported institutions in the region (prov gov&#039;t, school boards, universities, healthcare agencies, social service agencies, etc)...your gayness will never be mentioned, but it sure does motivate some decisions (moste negative and some grossly weirdly positive - token gay stuff). We&#039;re here &#039;cause right now with the housing slump we don&#039;t have a choice...but we&#039;re Vancouver bound within 3-4 years - can&#039;t wait to live among progressive people. Whether or not you&#039;ve experienced homophobia here yet (you&#039;re young), the true question when dealing with the straight majority for me has always been: If they were rounding us up, or firing us en masse, who would put themselves on the line to speak out...I&#039;m afraid not many, even of the straight people who count themselves among my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve not experienced any troubles in Edmonton. Generally speaking, neither have we in dealing with the public (save for the few inevitable stares and &#8220;ugh, look lesbians&#8221; comments, which are par for the course every now and then). But then I have a white straight friend who was dating a black guy, and they were yelled at on several different occasions while walking down Whyte ave hand in hand (the &#8220;n&#8221; word was used). That&#8217;s just the general public in Alberta. As a gay person, try dealing with the gov&#8217;t or even some of the larger gov&#8217;t supported institutions in the region (prov gov&#8217;t, school boards, universities, healthcare agencies, social service agencies, etc)&#8230;your gayness will never be mentioned, but it sure does motivate some decisions (moste negative and some grossly weirdly positive &#8211; token gay stuff). We&#8217;re here &#8217;cause right now with the housing slump we don&#8217;t have a choice&#8230;but we&#8217;re Vancouver bound within 3-4 years &#8211; can&#8217;t wait to live among progressive people. Whether or not you&#8217;ve experienced homophobia here yet (you&#8217;re young), the true question when dealing with the straight majority for me has always been: If they were rounding us up, or firing us en masse, who would put themselves on the line to speak out&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid not many, even of the straight people who count themselves among my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unfortunately, many Canadians see Alberta as a backwards province. I’m a 21 and live in Edmonton and feel great pride towards my city and province. There is no fear walking around hand in hand with another guy throughout the city, and none of my gay friends have any interest in leaving Edmonton or Calgary for Vancouver or Toronto. The two big cities in Alberta are gay friendly. Please get over your stereotypes.&quot;

This surely sounds like it&#039;s coming from someone who is in denial or someone doesn&#039;t follow politics.  

Did you know Quebec was the first one to include sexual orientation in their &quot;provincial protection&quot; code back in 1970&#039;s?  Almost over 30-35 years ago already - just a few years after homosexuality was decriminalized near end of late 60&#039;s.

Interesting enough this writer mentions two biggest cities in the province... what about the remaining 98.3% of other geographical areas of Alberta?  Is this truly the &#039;majority of province&#039; (covering many small communities) really being G/L/B/T friendly?  

The writer also fails to acknowledge why has the province of the day have been lacking behind in progress of G/L/B/T rights politically?  

It would be suicidal to proceed in embracing equality rights which most politicians prefer to hide behind the cloak of &quot;courts&quot; to do their &#039;dirty&#039; work.  If the politicans actually were willing to do it on their own without an &#039;order&#039; from the court system then the voters will make them pay for it in upcoming election.  

My friend... this is still Alberta we live in.  Other provinces... granted... are better today than our province yet these provinces do still have their own problems with G/L/B/T issues too.  Mostly these happened during few years ago and all the way back to the day the homosexuality was decriminalized in Canada.  

Keep in mind... being a liberal in a generally conservative province is very challenging.  We are slowly changing... we&#039;re just not moving like a rabit but as a turtle.  :)  It&#039;s coming.

Matthew, Sherwood Park, 23.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, many Canadians see Alberta as a backwards province. I’m a 21 and live in Edmonton and feel great pride towards my city and province. There is no fear walking around hand in hand with another guy throughout the city, and none of my gay friends have any interest in leaving Edmonton or Calgary for Vancouver or Toronto. The two big cities in Alberta are gay friendly. Please get over your stereotypes.&#8221;</p>
<p>This surely sounds like it&#8217;s coming from someone who is in denial or someone doesn&#8217;t follow politics.  </p>
<p>Did you know Quebec was the first one to include sexual orientation in their &#8220;provincial protection&#8221; code back in 1970&#8242;s?  Almost over 30-35 years ago already &#8211; just a few years after homosexuality was decriminalized near end of late 60&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Interesting enough this writer mentions two biggest cities in the province&#8230; what about the remaining 98.3% of other geographical areas of Alberta?  Is this truly the &#8216;majority of province&#8217; (covering many small communities) really being G/L/B/T friendly?  </p>
<p>The writer also fails to acknowledge why has the province of the day have been lacking behind in progress of G/L/B/T rights politically?  </p>
<p>It would be suicidal to proceed in embracing equality rights which most politicians prefer to hide behind the cloak of &#8220;courts&#8221; to do their &#8216;dirty&#8217; work.  If the politicans actually were willing to do it on their own without an &#8216;order&#8217; from the court system then the voters will make them pay for it in upcoming election.  </p>
<p>My friend&#8230; this is still Alberta we live in.  Other provinces&#8230; granted&#8230; are better today than our province yet these provinces do still have their own problems with G/L/B/T issues too.  Mostly these happened during few years ago and all the way back to the day the homosexuality was decriminalized in Canada.  </p>
<p>Keep in mind&#8230; being a liberal in a generally conservative province is very challenging.  We are slowly changing&#8230; we&#8217;re just not moving like a rabit but as a turtle.  <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s coming.</p>
<p>Matthew, Sherwood Park, 23.</p>
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		<title>By: drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 11:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ matt--I was referring to the province as a whole.  Just as the freedom of living in Dallas, Houston or Austin is tempered by the rural-dominated texas legislature, so too are Calgary and (especially) Edmonton two bubbles in an otherwise self-fulfilling stereotype called Alberta.  Edmonton is notably NOT like the rest of the province, and many of the new(fie)comers--in places like Wood Buffalo/Fort MacMurray--are no more enlightened than the locals (and quite possibly less so).  As for gay life, I wasn&#039;t suggesting that every homo in Alberta should pick up and move to Church and Wellesley, since that&#039;s a tired stereotype in its own right.  The stereotype of Alberta wouldn&#039;t be so persistent or resonant if Albertans (outside of Edmonton at least) found somebody to vote into government besides rightwing know-nothings with an unbroken 40-year grip on control.  Alberta&#039;s politicians continue down the same, tired, homophobic path, and Stelmach is simply Ralph Klein&#039;s heir (if not equal).  

Far as I know, at least in the cities, Alberta law already allows you to send your child to a religious school on the public dime.  Pretty sure Edmonton has at least one Christian (not Catholic) high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ matt&#8211;I was referring to the province as a whole.  Just as the freedom of living in Dallas, Houston or Austin is tempered by the rural-dominated texas legislature, so too are Calgary and (especially) Edmonton two bubbles in an otherwise self-fulfilling stereotype called Alberta.  Edmonton is notably NOT like the rest of the province, and many of the new(fie)comers&#8211;in places like Wood Buffalo/Fort MacMurray&#8211;are no more enlightened than the locals (and quite possibly less so).  As for gay life, I wasn&#8217;t suggesting that every homo in Alberta should pick up and move to Church and Wellesley, since that&#8217;s a tired stereotype in its own right.  The stereotype of Alberta wouldn&#8217;t be so persistent or resonant if Albertans (outside of Edmonton at least) found somebody to vote into government besides rightwing know-nothings with an unbroken 40-year grip on control.  Alberta&#8217;s politicians continue down the same, tired, homophobic path, and Stelmach is simply Ralph Klein&#8217;s heir (if not equal).  </p>
<p>Far as I know, at least in the cities, Alberta law already allows you to send your child to a religious school on the public dime.  Pretty sure Edmonton has at least one Christian (not Catholic) high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/alberta-is-last-canadian-province-to-enshrine-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-54563</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, many Canadians see Alberta as a backwards province. I&#039;m a 21 and live in Edmonton and feel great pride towards my city and province. There is no fear walking around hand in hand with another guy throughout the city, and none of my gay friends have any interest in leaving Edmonton or Calgary for Vancouver or Toronto. The two big cities in Alberta are gay friendly. Please get over your stereotypes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, many Canadians see Alberta as a backwards province. I&#8217;m a 21 and live in Edmonton and feel great pride towards my city and province. There is no fear walking around hand in hand with another guy throughout the city, and none of my gay friends have any interest in leaving Edmonton or Calgary for Vancouver or Toronto. The two big cities in Alberta are gay friendly. Please get over your stereotypes.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be no opt out provision in the public schools.  Parents can send their kids to religious schools if they want them possibly indoctrinated in religious BS left over from thousands of years ago.

But can you imagine one of those kids trying to get a job as an astronomer, to prove that the Sun rotates around the earth, and the world is only 4000 or 6000 years old.

BTw, if you want to break the back of the religious conservatives, what needs to be done is to finish debunking the superstition that the world was created in 6 days and nights, and on the 7th God rested.

And then the rest will be history.  The conservative churches disgraced and shown as ignorant followers of superstition.

And mankind will be able to throw off the yoke of ages that has held back progress, and been the creator or supporter of most wars.  All to satisfy a power lust by religious egomaniacs.

And yes there are good religions, that look forward to progress, not look back for superstitions to support their power amongst the ash heap wrought by conservative religions over the millenia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be no opt out provision in the public schools.  Parents can send their kids to religious schools if they want them possibly indoctrinated in religious BS left over from thousands of years ago.</p>
<p>But can you imagine one of those kids trying to get a job as an astronomer, to prove that the Sun rotates around the earth, and the world is only 4000 or 6000 years old.</p>
<p>BTw, if you want to break the back of the religious conservatives, what needs to be done is to finish debunking the superstition that the world was created in 6 days and nights, and on the 7th God rested.</p>
<p>And then the rest will be history.  The conservative churches disgraced and shown as ignorant followers of superstition.</p>
<p>And mankind will be able to throw off the yoke of ages that has held back progress, and been the creator or supporter of most wars.  All to satisfy a power lust by religious egomaniacs.</p>
<p>And yes there are good religions, that look forward to progress, not look back for superstitions to support their power amongst the ash heap wrought by conservative religions over the millenia.</p>
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		<title>By: eriono</title>
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		<dc:creator>eriono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transgendered persons still have no protection under the Alberta Human Rights, Citizenship and Multiculturalism Act which is inconsistent with other Canadian provinces, and even some States in the US....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transgendered persons still have no protection under the Alberta Human Rights, Citizenship and Multiculturalism Act which is inconsistent with other Canadian provinces, and even some States in the US&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a gay Canadian originally from Alberta (I now live in Quebec) and am not surprised at this whatsoever. Premier Stelmach (who represents the riding I grew up in) is a perfect example of a rural Albertan: socially conservative and deeply religious. It&#039;s bad enough they had to be forced into recognising gay rights, now they are branching out and destroying the education system as well. No wonder most gay and lesbian teens leave Alberta for safer spaces in cities like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal. I am ashamed to even think that I was born in Alberta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a gay Canadian originally from Alberta (I now live in Quebec) and am not surprised at this whatsoever. Premier Stelmach (who represents the riding I grew up in) is a perfect example of a rural Albertan: socially conservative and deeply religious. It&#8217;s bad enough they had to be forced into recognising gay rights, now they are branching out and destroying the education system as well. No wonder most gay and lesbian teens leave Alberta for safer spaces in cities like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal. I am ashamed to even think that I was born in Alberta.</p>
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