March 19th, 2010
 

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AG calls for rejection of Prop 8


(San Francisco, California) California Attorney General Jerry Brown told the state Supreme Court Friday that it should invalidate Proposition 8, the voter approved amendment to the state constitution that bans same-sex marriage.

In a brief submitted to the court Friday, Brown’s office said the measure should be invalidated because it deprives people of the right to marry—an aspect of liberty that the Supreme Court has concluded is guaranteed by the California Constitution.

“Proposition 8 must be invalidated because the amendment process cannot be used to extinguish fundamental constitutional rights without compelling justification,” Brown’s brief said.

Brown argued that in order to invalidate such a fundamental right, the court “must determine that there is a compelling justification to do so.”

But in the marriage cases that the court ruled on earlier this year, striking down the ban on gay marriage “the court found that no such compelling justification exists. Accordingly, Proposition 8 must be stricken,” the brief said.

Brown also said that he believes that same-sex marriages entered into between June 16 and November 4, 2008 are valid and recognized in California regardless of whether Proposition 8 is upheld.

The position was a surprise to some. Although he personally supports same-sex marriage many thought as Attorney General Brown would ask the court to uphold Prop 8.  Brown’s office said that as Attorney General he is obligated to argue state constitutional law, which is what he did.

The court had ordered Brown’s office to submit its brief by today in reaction to legal challenges to Prop 8.

Following passage of the proposition the American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights filed lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the vote.  They were joined by additional suits by the cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles.

The lawsuits charge that Proposition 8 is invalid because the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the constitution’s core commitment to equality for everyone, by eliminating a fundamental right from just one group – lesbian and gay Californians.

They also say that Proposition 8 improperly attempts to prevent the courts from exercising their essential constitutional role of protecting the equal protection rights of minorities.

The suits say that under the California Constitution, such radical changes to the organizing principles of state government cannot be made by simple majority vote through the initiative process, but instead must, at a minimum, go through the state legislature first.

The California Constitution itself sets out two ways to alter the document that sets the most basic rules about how state government works, the groups said in a statement.

Through the initiative process, voters can make relatively small changes to the constitution.  But any measure that would change the underlying principles of the constitution must first be approved by the legislature before being submitted to the voters.

That didn’t happen with Proposition 8, and that’s why it’s invalid, the petitioners said.

The Supreme Court set Friday as the deadline for Brown’s office to reply and it said that in addition to hearing arguments on the validity of the vote it wanted to address what effect, if any, a ruling upholding the amendment would have on the estimated 18,000 same-sex marriages that were sanctioned in California before Election Day.

In addition to the brief from attorneys for the Protect Marriage Coalition, the umbrella group that put Prop 8 on the ballot.  It argued that the will of the people must be respected by the court and that the measure also invalidated those marriages performed prior to the vote.

The coalition has hired Ken Starr who led the inquiry into President Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica L. Lewinsky, to argue its case before the high court. It said it needed a high profile attorney because it did not trust Brown to fight for Prop 8.

The court is expected to study the briefs and then ask for comment from the litigants.  Oral arguments in the case could be heard as early as March but a ruling would not come for months after that.


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  • Todd Said: December 20th, 2008 at 8:54 am
    • Scott,
      “Todd, it’s called a “grandfather clause.” In other words, if a contract (marriage) is legal at the time it’s entered into it cannot be invalidated by any laws passed afterwards.”

      This is not a normal situation though, the Constitution itself is saying now that only marriage between a man and woman is recognized in California.

      I haven’t heard or read any statement regarding this with any real finality to it. If it was so certain then why aren’t legal experts, well, certain about it?

      “And since the amendment itself didn’t have ANY wording about marriages previously performed they are not invalidated by it.”

      Well the description of the proposition stated it applied to marriages regardless of when they occurred and also the fact that the definition in the constitution just states it plainly instead of after any time period to me means it applies to marriages regardless of where/when they occurred, that they just are not recognized, period.

  • Advntr99 Said: December 20th, 2008 at 9:11 am
    • Go Jerry. The fight is now on!

  • Jo Said: December 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
    • And then there’s the fact that the mother[freaking] yes on 8 campaign is trying to invalidate all 18,000 marriages when they claimed they wouldn’t.

      I think we should RIOT.

  • Leck Mich Amarsch Said: December 20th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    • Hallo Yengred!

      Do sett ebbes schtehe iwwer die deitsch Schprooch.

      Kannscht yuscht rum gucke an.

      Awwer wann du witt, kannscht schreiwe en bissel, odder schreiwe viel. Yeder Ardickel hot en “Gschwetz” wo du some Comments gewwe kannscht.

  • Red Patrick Said: December 20th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
    • Until 1967, many states upheld laws that banned interacial marriage. I’m sure that if popular vote were to rule over the minorities of this country, these laws would still be in place. Prop 8 takes the religious and moral views of the majority and forces the minority group of GLBT citizens to live by those views. If no one can show evidence that same-sex marriage causes harm or that same-sex marriage is wrong outside of religious context, then and only then can prop 8 be upheld. If this can not be done, then prop 8 must be invalidated just as those laws that banned interacial marriage before 1967.

  • doro Said: December 20th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
    • Lets not dilute the word ‘bigot. Not everyone who disagrees with gay marriage is a bigots.We are calling Obama a bigot now?

  • Shai Said: December 20th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
    • I’ve been grieving my vote for Obama since the announcement of Rick Warren – I will now enter my personal time machine and cast a write in vote for Jerry Brown! True courage has been shown by a politician and restored my faith that it’s a possibility – Mr. Obama take notice – Yes You Can!

  • Matt Said: December 20th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
  • Matt Said: December 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
  • TigerTzu Said: December 20th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
    • One of the few politicians left with a sense of honor and integrity. He stood for the right thing when it counted, not when it was convenient or politically advantageous. Well done, Mr. Brown.

  • RJLigier Said: December 20th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
    • What a specious legal argument…..”They also say that Proposition 8 improperly attempts to prevent the courts from exercising their essential constitutional role of protecting the equal protection rights of minorities”

      After more than a fifty year free ride in the public and private sectors based on fraudulent and fallacious research, the neurotic among us still want special treatment. I think it’s time for MRI polygraphs for the LGBT legal and medical professional communities.

  • Chris Sullivan Said: December 20th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
    • RJLigier – Really do shut up – your ignorance is beyond contemptable.

  • Todd Said: December 20th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
    • “..the neurotic among us still want special treatment.”

      Allowing interracial couples to have their marriages legally recognized by the government the same as same-race couples is not special treatment!

      And the fetish that some people have for being sexually attracted to those not of the same race as themselves is not neurotic!

  • Chris Sullivan Said: December 21st, 2008 at 1:50 am
    • I was not wrong to reject John McCain, I WAS wrong in accepting Barack Obama. THAT mistake won’t be happening again. He take hypocrisy to a whole new level.

  • Karl Rosenqvist Said: December 21st, 2008 at 3:53 am
    • They’ve hired Ken Starr for this? What is wrong with these people?!?

 
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