AG calls for rejection of Prop 8
12.19.2008 8:58pm EST
(San Francisco, California) California Attorney General Jerry Brown told the state Supreme Court Friday that it should invalidate Proposition 8, the voter approved amendment to the state constitution that bans same-sex marriage.
In a brief submitted to the court Friday, Brown’s office said the measure should be invalidated because it deprives people of the right to marry—an aspect of liberty that the Supreme Court has concluded is guaranteed by the California Constitution.“Proposition 8 must be invalidated because the amendment process cannot be used to extinguish fundamental constitutional rights without compelling justification,” Brown’s brief said.
Brown argued that in order to invalidate such a fundamental right, the court “must determine that there is a compelling justification to do so.”
But in the marriage cases that the court ruled on earlier this year, striking down the ban on gay marriage “the court found that no such compelling justification exists. Accordingly, Proposition 8 must be stricken,” the brief said.
Brown also said that he believes that same-sex marriages entered into between June 16 and November 4, 2008 are valid and recognized in California regardless of whether Proposition 8 is upheld.
The position was a surprise to some. Although he personally supports same-sex marriage many thought as Attorney General Brown would ask the court to uphold Prop 8. Brown’s office said that as Attorney General he is obligated to argue state constitutional law, which is what he did.
The court had ordered Brown’s office to submit its brief by today in reaction to legal challenges to Prop 8.
Following passage of the proposition the American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights filed lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the vote. They were joined by additional suits by the cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles.
The lawsuits charge that Proposition 8 is invalid because the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the constitution’s core commitment to equality for everyone, by eliminating a fundamental right from just one group – lesbian and gay Californians.
They also say that Proposition 8 improperly attempts to prevent the courts from exercising their essential constitutional role of protecting the equal protection rights of minorities.
The suits say that under the California Constitution, such radical changes to the organizing principles of state government cannot be made by simple majority vote through the initiative process, but instead must, at a minimum, go through the state legislature first.
The California Constitution itself sets out two ways to alter the document that sets the most basic rules about how state government works, the groups said in a statement.
Through the initiative process, voters can make relatively small changes to the constitution. But any measure that would change the underlying principles of the constitution must first be approved by the legislature before being submitted to the voters.
That didn’t happen with Proposition 8, and that’s why it’s invalid, the petitioners said.
The Supreme Court set Friday as the deadline for Brown’s office to reply and it said that in addition to hearing arguments on the validity of the vote it wanted to address what effect, if any, a ruling upholding the amendment would have on the estimated 18,000 same-sex marriages that were sanctioned in California before Election Day.
In addition to the brief from attorneys for the Protect Marriage Coalition, the umbrella group that put Prop 8 on the ballot. It argued that the will of the people must be respected by the court and that the measure also invalidated those marriages performed prior to the vote.
The coalition has hired Ken Starr who led the inquiry into President Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica L. Lewinsky, to argue its case before the high court. It said it needed a high profile attorney because it did not trust Brown to fight for Prop 8.
The court is expected to study the briefs and then ask for comment from the litigants. Oral arguments in the case could be heard as early as March but a ruling would not come for months after that.




Aren’t courts supposed to be about justice not appeasing the majority’s wants?
“RICK Said: 9:17 pm “I DONT WANT THE CHURCH INVOVLED IN MY PRIVATE LIFE…
Maybe we should open up the books these churches do not have to disclose to the public – and start snooping around in there affairs.
Thanks Prof Don…that was good reading. CONCLUSION…
very succinct.
” Proposition 8 should be invalidated as violating the inalienable right of liberty found in article 1, section1 of our Constitution.”
and thanks to the man I will always call Gov. Brown… for writing it.
I WANT MY RACIALLY DIVERSE AND GAY-WELCOMING CHUECH INVOLVED IN MY LIFE!
IN THE CHURCH I’VE GOING TO FOR 6 YEARS THERE IS LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE, NOT HATE AND NOT FEAR.
THE GAY ORGANIST HAS BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS, MY PARTNERED BEST MALE GAY FRIEND
THERE FOR SOME YEARS, AND ALSO A GAY COUPLE THAT ATTENDS THERE IN THE WINTER MONTHS.
CIVIL MARRIAGE IS NICE IN SOME STARK, CHEERLESS DRAB-LOOKING COUNTY CLERK OFFICE, (WE DON’T HAVE ANYTHING IN MY COUNTY LIKE THE GRAND LOOKING MARBLE STEPS ON THE INSIDE OF SAN FRANCISCO’S CITY HALL WHERE I STOPPED BY IN 2004 TO SEE SOME OF THE GAY CIVIL MARRIAGE CEREMONIES THAT WERE QUICX BUT SWEET) BUT I WOULD FAR RATHER HAVE THE JOY OF BEING MARRIED IN MY WONDERFUL CHURCH TO THE MAN OF MY CHOICE SHOULD GAY MARRIAGE BE LEGAL IN MARYLAND IN THE FUTURE.
Here is the web site for the attorney general’s brief in opposition to the enactment of Prop 8.
http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1642_prop_8_brief.pdf
This is an extremely risky and courageous move by Jerry Brown. An Attorney General – speaking in his official capacity as the state’s legal representative – telling the Supreme Court to invalidate one of the government’s own laws. That’s almost unheard of.
Anyone in the legal profession will tell you this is absolutely huge. And it’ll put the court under considerable pressure. The state government is literally telling them: “we don’t want to enforce this law.” That’s a very big deal indeed.
The California Supreme Court MUST invalidate Prop 8, or they will render themselves powerless. They have already stated in their May 2008, 172 page opinion, that they have the power to review and either uphold or invalidate all laws, propositions, amendments and all other legal aspects of California statutes.
They already called civil marriage a “fundamental right” of all people, (I suppose just residents of Californians, but it is not explicitly so stated, and probably applies to ALL people. They stated explicitly non-residents can get married there too! Too bad, Utah!)
I agree with Rick when he said:
“I DONT WANT THE CHURCH INVOVLED IN MY PRIVATE LIFE”
Freedom of religion also includes the “freedom FROM religion”, “freedom FROM FORCED religion”, “freedom FROM YOUR religion” and “freedom from your FORCED religion” as well.
By allowing the religious bigots to win, then the courts are forcing us to bow to one particular brand of religion. And that is FORBIDDEN by the U.S Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Since there are many religions that sanction and approve of same-sex relationships and same-sex marriages, I want my state sanctioned civil marriage contract. It is good, it is right, it is meaningful and it is most definitely needed in today’s legally administered society. Most of all my partner and I need it.
The Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Holy Rollers, Catholics, Muslims, Winesses, Mormons et. al. choose their practices of religious worship and their choice of God, and their religion laws.
Simply put, their choice does NOT trump my right to life, my right to liberty, and my right to find my own happiness.
Their choice of religion does not give them a superior moral position over me, and I will not allow them to try to force their misbegotten ideals and practices on me or those I love.
Please, all you religious fanatics, bigots, ignorant, and nutcases, GO HOME AND LEAVE ME ALONE. I will not enter your home or church, and please keep your nose and silly ideas out of my life and the places I frequent. You do not get to tell anyone what to do, much less deprive me of what I hold dear. I do not need your religion to be a good, kind, moral, upstanding, and yes, even god-fearing human being. Leave me to my choice or religion, and those human characteristics with which I was born.
Ken Starr screws up again!
Michael, read the article more carefully. Starr is mentioned in the second to last paragraph, where he belongs.
Great news from the AG but 365gay is typical in it’s behind the curve approach to the news. Today Ken Starr (remember him?!) signed on as lead counsel in the effort to invalidate the 18,000 marriages performed prior to prop 8. Scary. Why is 365gay such a slow/lame/ineffective news outlet? Anyway:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/19/191917/42/39/675251
And since the amendment itself didn’t have ANY wording about marriages previously performed they are not invalidated by it.
Todd, it’s called a “grandfather clause.” In other words, if a contract (marriage) is legal at the time it’s entered into it cannot be invalidated by any laws passed afterwards.
I don’t see how the marriages performed before the passing of Prop 8 can survive with Prop 8 in place because it’s a constitutional change not just a simple law change. Also in the Prop 8 description sent out to voters I’m pretty sure it stated that it applied to all marriages regardless of where or WHEN they occurred.
May the God of your choice bless you Jerry Brown.
GO, JERRY , GO !!FAIR IS FAIR !!THE CHRISTIAN NAZIS WONT GIVE UP AS LONG AS THE CASH KEEPS ROLLING IN AND THE HATE AND FEAR SPEWING ARE KEPT UP. WE VE GOT ALOT OF WORK TO DO,,,,,,,CAN WE GET BACK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND WHICH IS CIVIL MARRIAGE RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE. I DONT WANT THE CHURCH INVOVLED IN MY PRIVATE LIFE-PLEASE BRING THAT UP AND MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR FOR THEM TO BUTT OUT !!