Admirals, generals call for repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
11.18.2008 9:09am EST
(Annapolis, Maryland) More than 100 retired generals and admirals are calling for repeal of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays so they can serve openly, according to a statement obtained by The Associated Press.
The move by the military veterans confronts the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama with a thorny political and cultural issue that dogged former President Bill Clinton early in his administration.“As is the case with Great Britain, Israel, and other nations that allow gays and lesbians to serve openly, our service members are professionals who are able to work together effectively despite differences in race, gender, religion, and sexuality,” the officers wrote.
While Obama has expressed support for repeal, he said during the presidential campaign that he would not do so on his own – an indication that he would tread carefully to prevent the issue from becoming a drag on his agenda. Obama said he would instead work with military leaders to build consensus on removing the ban on openly gay service members.
“Although I have consistently said I would repeal ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ I believe that the way to do it is make sure that we are working through a process, getting the Joint Chiefs of Staff clear in terms of what our priorities are going to be,” Obama said in a September interview with the Philadelphia Gay News.
Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for Obama’s transition team, declined comment.
The issue of gays in the military became a flash point early in the Clinton administration as Clinton tried to fulfill a campaign promise to end the military’s ban on gays. His efforts created the current compromise policy – ending the ban but prohibiting active-duty service members from openly acknowledging they are gay.
But it came at a political cost. The resulting debate divided service members and veterans, put Democrats on the defensive and provided cannon fodder for social conservatives and Republican critics who questioned Clinton’s patriotism and standing with the military.
Retired Adm. Charles Larson, a four-star admiral and two-time superintendent of the U.S. Naval Academy who signed the statement with 104 other retired admirals and generals, said in an interview that he believed Clinton’s approach was flawed because he rushed to change military culture.
Larson said he hoped Obama would take more time to work with the Pentagon. Joining Larson among the signatories was Clifford Alexander, Army secretary under former President Jimmy Carter.
“There are a lot of issues they’ll have to work out, and I think they’ll have to prioritize,” Larson said, noting that the new administration will immediately face combat-readiness issues and budget concerns. “But I hope this would be one of the priority issues in the personnel area.”
The list of 104 former officers who signed the statement appears to signal growing support for resolving the status of gays in the military. Last year, 28 former generals and admirals signed a similar statement.
Larson, who has a gay daughter he says has broadened his thinking on the subject, believes a generational shift in attitudes toward homosexuality has created a climate where a repeal is not only workable, but also an important step for keeping talented personnel in the military.
“I know a lot of young people now – even people in the area of having commands of ships and squadrons – and they are much more tolerant, and they believe, as I do, that we have enough regulations on the books to enforce proper standards of human behavior,” Larson said.
The officers’ statement points to data showing there are about 1 million gay and lesbian veterans in the United States, and about 65,000 gays and lesbians currently serving in the military.
The military discharged about 12,340 people between 1994 and 2007 for violating the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, according to the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a military watchdog group. The number peaked in 2001 at 1,273, but began dropping off sharply after the Sept. 11 attacks.
Last year, 627 military personnel were discharged under the policy.
Political observers say that even though the issue may not be as controversial as it was when Clinton addressed it, it’s impossible to forget what happened then.
Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia, said Obama is unlikely to tackle the issue early on. Sabato said he expects Obama to focus on economic recovery and avoid risking the spark of a distracting “brush fire” controversy at the outset.
“I can’t imagine that he will do this right in the beginning, given the Clinton precedent,” Sabato said.
Aaron Belkin, who has studied the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy as director of the Palm Center at the University of California at Santa Barbara and organized the officers’ statement, said how Obama addresses the issue will be the first test for the new president on gay rights.
“Everyone is going to be interested to see how he responds,” Belkin said.





I’m not holding my breath waiting for Obama to comment on Prop 8 in California or the other three states that passed anti-gay laws. The Prop 8 vote has been on all the news stations, the papers and the internet on a daily basis and Obama remains silent. It’s too early for him to make any ground breaking changes but a comment on the loss of civil rights would show some leadership.
Whoops – hit the send button too soon. I meant to add that because of that (Obama’s no comment on Prop
I sincerely doubt he will make any changes on the military ban any time soon.
CLINTON BOTCHED IT-CORRECT IT AND GET IT OVER AND DONE WITH.
well while I commend ALL service members str8 or gay…I honestly don’t think any LGBT person should RISK thier Life/or Limb and Lack of Benefits for a partner to serve for a country that treats you as 2nd class citizens.
>I’m not holding my breath waiting for Obama to comment on Prop 8 in California or the other three states that passed anti-gay laws.
Instead of judging him based on what he didn’t promise (working for gay marriage), how about judging him on what he did promise: passing ENDA, ending DADT, repealing DOMA, and adding sexual orientation (gender orientation too?) to the hate crimes laws. If he can get all of that done in his first four years, it would help our cause immensely. States like CA want marriage, but there are still 30 states or so where you can be fired or denied access to public accommodations simply for being gay. How are we going to get gay marriage nationally before we get basic anti-discrimination laws in place, laws that MA and CA have had in place for a decade or two.
I firmly believe this will be repealed by Obama in the first two years of his presidency. Just look at the survey and the report.
While I believe that other legislation such as ENDA and the Shepard bill are really more of a priority than gay marriage, I also think that repealing DADT should be last on the list. Why should we fight and die for a country that wont extend us equal rights?
I agree with those who question serving in the armed forces of a country that has DECLARED us to be second-class citizens, from the wells of the US Senate and House. DOMA has to go FIRST; THEN the Shepard Act and THEN DADT. I still don’t see why anyone would fight and die for a country that doesn’t give a damn about us, and never has. And whether the African-Americans like it or not, it’s analogous to African-American soldiers coming home from serving in an integrated armed forces, only to discover that they were second-class citizens, not heroes. THEIR story is only NOW being told.
Bud Burgoon-Clark, San Diego CA USA
not ABOUT to forget that
I am a 2nd class citizen, thanks to
PAGAN FERTILITY CULTS and
Konservative Kristianist Kultist Krazies’ hate-mongering
David I totally agree with you. Now that Obama has been elected he seems to have forgotten about the LGBT community. While he took a hard-line stance on certain issues during his campaign he is suddenly silent and his spokesman are saying “no comment” or they now want to tread lightly. His silence is offensive yet not surprising. The LGBT community needs to stop endorsing candidates who only go half way when it comes to gay rights. It’s time we start shopping for another party. One that truly represents the interests of the gay community.
I sereved my time in the military and was booted for being gay. I would serve again if I could. I served my country during the first gulf war and I didnt care what others thought of me risking my life for a country that thinks of me as second class. Thats not why I served. I served becuase of the pricipal of what this country was founded on. Freedom, yes I know I dont have all the same freedoms everyone else does. Its the ideal that someday I can and will. As a proud gay vet I ask that you not question anyones reason for serving, most of us that have served are very proud of our time in the military. Besides if it were not for the military I would have never have met the man of my life
Thank You for your service Shawn.
Well, since I was one of the witch hunts from the time of Ronald Regan. I lost a purple clearance just on the thought. I did not even have to act on the desire. I was arrested. I had very high marks and got a honorable discharge, but it did open my eyes to the propaganda of the USA it is nice to be blackmailed by your own government. I still can be fined or put into jail for the rest of my life. It is nice to have a midlife crisis at 21. Now I am gay and proud too bad the rest of the americans can not tell the difference between sex and stupidity. Glad I can let the straight people defend my country and honor.
I’m quite optimistic that this issue will be resolved successfullty during Obama’s first term. I believe the vast majority of Americans in recent survey polls want DADT removed and for gays to serve openly in the forces. America is very behind the rest of the developed world on this issue. Here in Ireland we removed the ban on gay and lesbians in the army in 1993 amd the UK eventually did so in 1999. It is time for the US military to embrace the valour and skills of LBGT people.
TigerTzu Said”…the Shepard bill are really more of a priority than gay marriage.”
In case you didn’t know, treating two people in love as if they are legal strangers under the law IS a HATE CRIME of the most vile kind. Murder is already illegal in this country, but rarely are state hate crimes laws even used by local prosecutors — except in extreme circumstances.
ENDA and repeal of DOMA and DADT and Hate Crimes legislation don’t have to be mutually exclusive. But think that ENDA and the repeal of DOMA would be a priority as it would effect more of us directly.
Hate Crimes legislation is already on the books in many states as is anti-discrimination laws. DADT will end soon, I’d bet on it.
Marriage equality is only in few states. That should come first.
Yes, it sucks that we still have to fight such battles over acceptance into the military – and there’s still the issue of whether any of us should feel comfortable serving for a country that discriminates against us.
But let’s not forget to extract the positives out of this new, either. Former top-ranking officials, in what used to be one of the most homophobic institutions on Earth, are now able to see the value of welcoming ALL volunteers, regardless of sexuality or any other personal characteristic… and, perhaps best of all, are in touch with the concept of pluralism – working together DESPITE differences.
Hopefully Congress will realize that, if the professionals actually out there in the field have no problem with it, maybe it ISN’T A PROBLEM.