Comments on: 3 NYC cops charged in abuse case

By: Larry in Tucson

Larry in Tucson — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:24:53 +0000

This is not gay sex of any kind. It is rape of a male by a male with a baton doing penis duty. Rape is a crime of dominataion not a crime of sex. The sex is only incidental to the rapist’s real source of enjoyment which is the power over the one violated. Gay sex is two men having consensual relations where both are seeking pleasure. The declared sexual orientation of either is immaterial to whether or not gay sex happens. The consensual aspect of it is not.

By: TANK

TANK — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:27:50 +0000

Not seeing its relevance.

By: AlexH

AlexH — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:04:23 +0000

Dave W is right. The story should be out there regardless of the sexual orientation of either the accused or the victim. For some reason, male-on-male rape is starting to happen more frequently, or maybe being reported more frequently, and so it should be out there.

If there’s the victim’s DNA on the end of the baton how did it get there? It must have entered some orifice, right?

By: charlie

charlie — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:50:46 +0000

first a mea culpa on my part. Like DA Hynes I thought this just didn’t make sense and there had to be more to this story. Given the time & location I found it hard to believe. Unlike the Louima case, this wasn’t steroid crazed white cops in the privacy of a stationhouse bathroom assaulting a black man, but a subway station right by the turnstiles and token booth – witnesses up the yingyang! To my knowledge former PO Volpe has never explained why with all the various tried & true techniques used to give a “Tuneup” to a prisoner he got creative and went anal. Maybe the steroids?Then again, given the abysmal level to which investigative reporting has fallen to and the total corruption & censorship of all forms of news media in this country, I doubt one can figure this one out even after the trial, if there is one.
Some thoughts though:
Dave you right it should be out there just so people know these things do happen and some of “Kelly’s Heros” do have clay feet!
What are the sexual orientation of all the involved parties? Maybe PO Kern is a closet case?
The DNA says the baton was where it shouldn’t have been, but the victims underwear was – not the usual bare ass assault. Could this have been accidental during the struggle to subdue the suspect as there is not reports of verbal threats to stick it to him? Then the coverup -lets make a deal, fudge the summons so it get thrown out instead of getting locked up, keep you mouth shut about this and everyone forgets it ever happened, a win-win! No dozens of report on injured prisoners, no sitting for hours or days in the ER guarding the prisoner, where’s the pot or the joint, IAD Spooks,SGT & CAPT pissed off. Sometimes a web of lies seems easier than the truth! Wrong! We shall see!

By: Dave W

Dave W — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:15:13 +0000

I’m surprised no comments complaining about this story as irrelevant to the gay community, as we usually see with so called straight male sexual assault.

I’ll pre-empt: I think it does matter. Straight guys act out on their testosterone crazed anger by raping other men with inanimate objects and we sit back and say has nothing to do with gay.

It sure does. Humanity needs to understand that there exists a spectrum of sexuality and one really abhorrent area of that spectrum is male sexual superiority. If we get people to realize that seemingly straight guys will sodomize to humiliate, we might start to unravel the tightly wound web of male straightness to reveal a cleverly hidden world of sexual meandering that indicates we aren’t so abnormal.

No, I’m not comfortable with the thought that we might use male on male sexual violence to make a point about us, but it does make the point. Straight men are not as normal as society makes them out to be. they are obsessed with their penises, others penises and others asses. Just watch a basketball team in action. They wrap all this up in a ball of homophobia and don’t like to talk about it, but getting it out in the open will open minds about the weird world of human sexuality.

If we let this cop get away with mere assault, not GAY sexual assault, we miss a big opportunity to point out the hypocrisy in the male straigt-at-all-costs attitude.