Comments on: Anti-gay marriage group won’t support ballot measure to reinstate out-of state ban http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: SteveMD2 http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-14244 SteveMD2 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:34:51 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-14244 If I were part of the religious groups that opposed gay marriage, I would be drastically searching for a way of weasel wording a softening of their position. Or else, they will get their due, which is what they really fear – that their hypocrisy will be seen by all. They will end up preaching to the dust in the pews and the dust of their departed. Of course, they’ll probably find a new group upon which to focus their hatred. It seems to be Trans people. And the Jews will be next., all over again. And lets not forget that the hypocrites of the catholic church hierarchy say that gays should be “treated with dignity and respect”, and in the next breath call gays “inherently disordered”. In effect, that is calling gay people crazy, and in our society full of ignorantis, is a license to bully, and worse. If anyone is inherently disordered, it is those who use the Name of God to justify hatred against minorities.. If I were part of the religious groups that opposed gay marriage, I would be drastically searching for a way of weasel wording a softening of their position. Or else, they will get their due, which is what they really fear – that their hypocrisy will be seen by all. They will end up preaching to the dust in the pews and the dust of their departed.
Of course, they’ll probably find a new group upon which to focus their hatred. It seems to be Trans people. And the Jews will be next., all over again.
And lets not forget that the hypocrites of the catholic church hierarchy say that gays should be “treated with dignity and respect”, and in the next breath call gays “inherently disordered”. In effect, that is calling gay people crazy, and in our society full of ignorantis, is a license to bully, and worse. If anyone is inherently disordered, it is those who use the Name of God to justify hatred against minorities..

]]> By: Chris Sullivan http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-14013 Chris Sullivan Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:43 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-14013 Kris Mineau - amusing how you self-servingly misconstrue the role of the juidicary. Their role, as you should know, is not to coddle the "will of the people" but to interpret the law as it has been laid out. If the people want to change the law, then there are ways to do that. Your statements are not only irrational, that are outright ignorant. You can rationalize your ignorance as much as you want, but it won't change the truth. Gay marriage will occur in this country because history has shown that when people are educated (not ignorant) about the REAL facts (not the propaganda you spew), they, in time, do make the right choice. Kris Mineau – amusing how you self-servingly misconstrue the role of the juidicary. Their role, as you should know, is not to coddle the “will of the people” but to interpret the law as it has been laid out. If the people want to change the law, then there are ways to do that. Your statements are not only irrational, that are outright ignorant. You can rationalize your ignorance as much as you want, but it won’t change the truth. Gay marriage will occur in this country because history has shown that when people are educated (not ignorant) about the REAL facts (not the propaganda you spew), they, in time, do make the right choice.

]]> By: John Bisceglia http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-14007 John Bisceglia Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:07:21 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-14007 No intelligent, educated person has yet to offer a convincing argument against the LGBTIQ community's civil right to marry the person they love. Unfortunately, this issue needs to be addressed by the Supreme Court and NOT each individual state, so myself and others will be withholding federal taxes until we get our day in court. GAY TAX PROTEST No intelligent, educated person has yet to offer a convincing argument against the LGBTIQ community’s civil right to marry the person they love. Unfortunately, this issue needs to be addressed by the Supreme Court and NOT each individual state, so myself and others will be withholding federal taxes until we get our day in court. GAY TAX PROTEST

]]> By: Gerry Fisher http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-13586 Gerry Fisher Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:23:18 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-13586 While we're at it, I second the plug for the Southern Poverty Law Center. I've been donating to them since the early nineties, and they do an amazing job at researching and exposing hate groups in this country. It's particularly enlightening when they publish all of the interconnections between the various groups (for example, that leaders in anti-gay efforts are involved in anti-immigration efforts and in anti-Jewish efforts and in anti-African-American efforts and so on). There's often no "formal" tie-in between the groups (sometimes there is), but the same cast of characters pop up from group to group, illustrating how hate and scapegoating are equal opportunity. I recommend looking into their organization and supporting them, if you can. They're quality. (Plus, you get updates that include pictures of beefy, tattooed skin heads...WOOF! I know, I know...I'm twisted. ;-) ) While we’re at it, I second the plug for the Southern Poverty Law Center. I’ve been donating to them since the early nineties, and they do an amazing job at researching and exposing hate groups in this country. It’s particularly enlightening when they publish all of the interconnections between the various groups (for example, that leaders in anti-gay efforts are involved in anti-immigration efforts and in anti-Jewish efforts and in anti-African-American efforts and so on). There’s often no “formal” tie-in between the groups (sometimes there is), but the same cast of characters pop up from group to group, illustrating how hate and scapegoating are equal opportunity.

I recommend looking into their organization and supporting them, if you can. They’re quality. (Plus, you get updates that include pictures of beefy, tattooed skin heads…WOOF! I know, I know…I’m twisted. ;-) )

]]> By: Kris Mineau http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-13548 Kris Mineau Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:18:55 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-13548 MFI is not participating in a referendum fight to ban out-of-state same-sex couples from marrying in MA because there is no doubt it would be quickly overturned by the legislature—following on the legislature’s bent on ignoring the will of the people on issues from tax rollbacks to same-sex marriage. MFI in not “throwing in the towel” as your articles suggests. Not every political tactic is practical or the best use of time and resources. This one in particular connotes a fool’s errand. MFI remains fully committed to giving the people back their voice on the definition of marriage in Massachusetts precisely because citizens are not “comfortable” – as you implied – with same-sex unions having been established without their vote. MFI is not participating in a referendum fight to ban out-of-state same-sex couples from marrying in MA because there is no doubt it would be quickly overturned by the legislature—following on the legislature’s bent on ignoring the will of the people on issues from tax rollbacks to same-sex marriage. MFI in not “throwing in the towel” as your articles suggests. Not every political tactic is practical or the best use of time and resources. This one in particular connotes a fool’s errand. MFI remains fully committed to giving the people back their voice on the definition of marriage in Massachusetts precisely because citizens are not “comfortable” – as you implied – with same-sex unions having been established without their vote.

]]> By: Chris Sullivan http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-13406 Chris Sullivan Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:39:18 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-13406 Well, cheers to the Southern Poverty Law Center for calling it the way it REALLY is! :) Well, cheers to the Southern Poverty Law Center for calling it the way it REALLY is! :)

]]> By: lance http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-out-of-state-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-13363 lance Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:14:49 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=2945#comment-13363 You should also note that MassResistance, the group that is trying to get signatures for the ballot, was named a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center along with the KKK and the Neo Nazis. You should also note that MassResistance, the group that is trying to get signatures for the ballot, was named a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center along with the KKK and the Neo Nazis.

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