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	<title>Comments on: Clinton says election isn&#8217;t about her</title>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Obama supporter, I thought Hillary hit a home run with her speech. I&#039;ve never seen her give a better speech, and it was done under tremendous pressure with huge consequences. I agree with those who point out that it&#039;s Obama&#039;s responsibility to pick it up from here. Of course, it would be great if she could help out here and there...but it&#039;s not her responsibility.

As for third-party candidates, give me a break. Until these parties do the hard work of building up true, nation-wide organizations, then electing their candidates to the presidency would, in effect, create a powerless figure head who&#039;d be dominated by the two-party led Congress. 

The Green party, IMO, is doing it right and is making progress. You can see their elected officials sprinkled across the state legislatures. It&#039;s a good start. But, until they build up a true political base, they will continue to be vulnerable to ego-maniacal, individualistic opportunists like Nader and Barr who are too lazy to get vetted the more intense processes of true, deep, national parties. (At least the R and D egomaniacs have to get vetted. ;-) ) I can&#039;t help but to think that Nader and Barr are, to a huge extent, circumventing hard work. (And Barr is not a friend to the gay community, no matter what he says. Author of DOMA! He likes us now because he NEEDS us.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Obama supporter, I thought Hillary hit a home run with her speech. I&#8217;ve never seen her give a better speech, and it was done under tremendous pressure with huge consequences. I agree with those who point out that it&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s responsibility to pick it up from here. Of course, it would be great if she could help out here and there&#8230;but it&#8217;s not her responsibility.</p>
<p>As for third-party candidates, give me a break. Until these parties do the hard work of building up true, nation-wide organizations, then electing their candidates to the presidency would, in effect, create a powerless figure head who&#8217;d be dominated by the two-party led Congress. </p>
<p>The Green party, IMO, is doing it right and is making progress. You can see their elected officials sprinkled across the state legislatures. It&#8217;s a good start. But, until they build up a true political base, they will continue to be vulnerable to ego-maniacal, individualistic opportunists like Nader and Barr who are too lazy to get vetted the more intense processes of true, deep, national parties. (At least the R and D egomaniacs have to get vetted. <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) I can&#8217;t help but to think that Nader and Barr are, to a huge extent, circumventing hard work. (And Barr is not a friend to the gay community, no matter what he says. Author of DOMA! He likes us now because he NEEDS us.)</p>
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		<title>By: Censoredagain</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-hillary-clinton-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13377</link>
		<dc:creator>Censoredagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen said &quot;...We’ll do it because he’s better than the other guy....&quot;

There are more people running then McCain and Obama.   We as a nation will continue to suffer from the duopoly of the freedom foiling Theocatic Republicans and the individual liberty hating Socialist Democrats so long as we continue to dismiss the voices of the minority parties.  We will continue the self fulfilling prophecy of minority parties loosing if we never vote from in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen said &#8220;&#8230;We’ll do it because he’s better than the other guy&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are more people running then McCain and Obama.   We as a nation will continue to suffer from the duopoly of the freedom foiling Theocatic Republicans and the individual liberty hating Socialist Democrats so long as we continue to dismiss the voices of the minority parties.  We will continue the self fulfilling prophecy of minority parties loosing if we never vote from in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-hillary-clinton-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13355</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is unfair to put the responsibility on Hillary to win the election for Obama. If he really wanted her supporters, why not make her the VP nominee? Once again, the woman is supposed to work hard, then step back and give all the glory to the man. LOrian even wants her to work twice as hard. That&#039;s pitiful. If he wants my vote, HE should work for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is unfair to put the responsibility on Hillary to win the election for Obama. If he really wanted her supporters, why not make her the VP nominee? Once again, the woman is supposed to work hard, then step back and give all the glory to the man. LOrian even wants her to work twice as hard. That&#8217;s pitiful. If he wants my vote, HE should work for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-hillary-clinton-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13351</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOrion, you must be kidding. Why is it Hillary&#039;s job to win this election for Obama? You talk as though she has the power to singlehandedly make or break his campaign, to singlehandedly unify the Democratic part, but yet she&#039;s not good enough to be on the ticket. Hmm.... I doubt that any true Democrat will vote for McCain. Don&#039;t be fooled by all these Repubs making those posts, trying to fuel division. We&#039;ll vote for Obama, but reluctantly. And we won&#039;t do it because he&#039;s inspired us or touched us. We won&#039;t do it because we believe he&#039;s the great savior. We won&#039;t even do it because Hillary told us to. We&#039;ll do it because he&#039;s better than the other guy. But I am beginning to doubt I can ever be convinced that he&#039;s better than her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOrion, you must be kidding. Why is it Hillary&#8217;s job to win this election for Obama? You talk as though she has the power to singlehandedly make or break his campaign, to singlehandedly unify the Democratic part, but yet she&#8217;s not good enough to be on the ticket. Hmm&#8230;. I doubt that any true Democrat will vote for McCain. Don&#8217;t be fooled by all these Repubs making those posts, trying to fuel division. We&#8217;ll vote for Obama, but reluctantly. And we won&#8217;t do it because he&#8217;s inspired us or touched us. We won&#8217;t do it because we believe he&#8217;s the great savior. We won&#8217;t even do it because Hillary told us to. We&#8217;ll do it because he&#8217;s better than the other guy. But I am beginning to doubt I can ever be convinced that he&#8217;s better than her.</p>
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		<title>By: Censoredagain</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/news/082708-hillary-clinton-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-13345</link>
		<dc:creator>Censoredagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I invite all those dems that are not happy with Obama and planing on voting on McCain to rethink voting for McInsane and vote for Bob Barr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I invite all those dems that are not happy with Obama and planing on voting on McCain to rethink voting for McInsane and vote for Bob Barr.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She got a deal from Obama. Once he&#039;s elected she&#039;ll be on the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She got a deal from Obama. Once he&#8217;s elected she&#8217;ll be on the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see it, Hillary has nothing to PROVE LOrion.  

The Obama camp had better start showing some serious appreciation and gratitude towards the Senator from New York or she could become his worst nightmare.  (P.S. - Sending out text messages at 3am to get your digs in is not a start.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I see it, Hillary has nothing to PROVE LOrion.  </p>
<p>The Obama camp had better start showing some serious appreciation and gratitude towards the Senator from New York or she could become his worst nightmare.  (P.S. &#8211; Sending out text messages at 3am to get your digs in is not a start.)</p>
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		<title>By: LOrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well she better get out there and PROVE it.  She needs to make twice as many campaign stops as OBAMA...tell everyone what she as a SENATOR will gain from and OBAMA presidency. and doggedly follow all the McCain DIVIDE DIVIDE DIVIDE  The Repugs will continue to USE HER...unless she says NO...day after day after day until NOVEMBER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well she better get out there and PROVE it.  She needs to make twice as many campaign stops as OBAMA&#8230;tell everyone what she as a SENATOR will gain from and OBAMA presidency. and doggedly follow all the McCain DIVIDE DIVIDE DIVIDE  The Repugs will continue to USE HER&#8230;unless she says NO&#8230;day after day after day until NOVEMBER.</p>
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