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		<title>By: marcus99</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcus99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canadian here. US husband. Sponsored him as my spouse.Waiting for final papers. Took 1 year-submitted app last November.

Depending on your circumstances, it might be an option for one of a couple to get working papers in Canada,marry in Canada, apply for residency, and then sponsor other partner under spouse class.

At least you would be close to the US, and then go from there.

Canada has its problems like any other country, but it is way way way more relaxed than the US. Safe, beautiful and fun, but can be bloddy cold in winter. And that&#039;s why God made Florida for Canadians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canadian here. US husband. Sponsored him as my spouse.Waiting for final papers. Took 1 year-submitted app last November.</p>
<p>Depending on your circumstances, it might be an option for one of a couple to get working papers in Canada,marry in Canada, apply for residency, and then sponsor other partner under spouse class.</p>
<p>At least you would be close to the US, and then go from there.</p>
<p>Canada has its problems like any other country, but it is way way way more relaxed than the US. Safe, beautiful and fun, but can be bloddy cold in winter. And that&#8217;s why God made Florida for Canadians.</p>
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		<title>By: sparta</title>
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		<dc:creator>sparta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a binational couple looking to meet other binational couples to help overcome immigration challenges.
Im originally from Brazil and my partner is from the US, we are sick of tired of all this discrimination against us. We are looking for other couples on the same situation to network about this situation and help each other on this rough time in our lives. You can send us an email to unknownc81  at y ahoo dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a binational couple looking to meet other binational couples to help overcome immigration challenges.<br />
Im originally from Brazil and my partner is from the US, we are sick of tired of all this discrimination against us. We are looking for other couples on the same situation to network about this situation and help each other on this rough time in our lives. You can send us an email to unknownc81  at y ahoo dot com</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner and I are currently separated because of borders!! She is a Spanish citizen and I am a US citizen and although it is legal for us to marry in Spain there are still many immigration problems at hand. I am looking for anyone who may have advice. We&#039;re engaged and wanted to marry in California but were denied the right. Now we may not be able to marry in Spain because she can not prove income to support me for the next 5 years. Everyday that passes we are growing more and more scared that it will be impossible to be together. I am desperate for advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner and I are currently separated because of borders!! She is a Spanish citizen and I am a US citizen and although it is legal for us to marry in Spain there are still many immigration problems at hand. I am looking for anyone who may have advice. We&#8217;re engaged and wanted to marry in California but were denied the right. Now we may not be able to marry in Spain because she can not prove income to support me for the next 5 years. Everyday that passes we are growing more and more scared that it will be impossible to be together. I am desperate for advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an all-too familiar pain for me. 

I am an American citizen, but my partner was brought to the US(from Mexico) when he was 4 years old, attended all American schools, speaks English more fluently than a lot of the people I grew up with, but has no legal rights here whatsoever.  What&#039;s more, we live in Arizona, in a county with a sheriff&#039;s department engaged in the worst mass racial profiling and xenophobia of any major city in the US.  I&#039;m afraid to go anywhere with him, even the grocery store, because of the random checkpoints.  On top of that, now the state is trying to prevent gay state employees from getting domestic partner benefits, and our own hateful little proposition (102) passed last November.  

At this point, we&#039;d have more rights in Mexico City than we do here.  Considering that both of us have lived every bit of our lives that we can remember in this country, that&#039;s a really cruel joke.  And to be honest, I&#039;m considering moving to Mexico now.  If this bill doesn&#039;t pass, our days in this country are numbered.

Come on, Congress - let me have my faith in my country back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an all-too familiar pain for me. </p>
<p>I am an American citizen, but my partner was brought to the US(from Mexico) when he was 4 years old, attended all American schools, speaks English more fluently than a lot of the people I grew up with, but has no legal rights here whatsoever.  What&#8217;s more, we live in Arizona, in a county with a sheriff&#8217;s department engaged in the worst mass racial profiling and xenophobia of any major city in the US.  I&#8217;m afraid to go anywhere with him, even the grocery store, because of the random checkpoints.  On top of that, now the state is trying to prevent gay state employees from getting domestic partner benefits, and our own hateful little proposition (102) passed last November.  </p>
<p>At this point, we&#8217;d have more rights in Mexico City than we do here.  Considering that both of us have lived every bit of our lives that we can remember in this country, that&#8217;s a really cruel joke.  And to be honest, I&#8217;m considering moving to Mexico now.  If this bill doesn&#8217;t pass, our days in this country are numbered.</p>
<p>Come on, Congress &#8211; let me have my faith in my country back.</p>
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		<title>By: malalan</title>
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		<dc:creator>malalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time I read story like this, it will gets me all teared up. I am in the same situation. I don&#039;t know if my stay will be ended and have to give up my 10 year relationship. I have spent 8 of these years fighting to stay. I have never once out of status. I have always been here legally. But at what price? I have spent thousands of dollars doing this. I didn&#039;t have one day that I can forget that this might be the last day I have with my partner. It is worst than having a terminal cancer because at least I will have a &quot;expected&quot; time to live.

To make things more difficult, I am now provider to my family. If I am gone, what will happen to my partner? He is 5 years away from retirement, have a 30 years mortgage to pay. He can&#039;t get a job easily elsewhere in another country. Frankly, it will not be fair for him to have to leave this country and start live all over again.

Many have over stayed their visa valid date just to be with their partner. Meaning they will have to give up their friends and family back at another country since they can never reenter into US without a proper visa.

Lets face it, people make stupid and risky decisions because of love. Taking about fraud... I guess it will encouraged more fraud if UAFA is not pass because it will force a lot more people enter marriage just so that they can get a way to be with who they love.
The alone proves that the true love exist. 

We are running out of options and people that opposing this do not see it from the right angle. It is nothing to do with religion, sanctity of marriage or # of green cards like what was brought up in the public hearing for UAFA. The law should never be dictates by any of this but how it affects the people. The ultimate goal for the law is to give rights and protect those rights. Not to restrict them and cause harm.

People that argues gay marriage is a special right. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Special rights are those as opposite sex marriage because only them can have it. No body else can. If you don&#039;t have that right to begin with and only wanted it so that we can be equal is not special rights. If those that insist to only have these rights protect and only they can enjoy... then it is special rights. 

Yes there are more things we need to look into before UAFA can be perfect, but if we wait until we get it right before implementing it, it might never happen in a life time. Instead of arguing it can be done, why not make suggestions on how to improve it and make it work? I just kept hearing both sides of arguments but no resolution make to work together and come up with the better solutions or process. Don&#039;t tell me it can be done but tell me what needs to be done to make this happen.

Please make this a speedy process because thousands of lives are depended on this bill....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I read story like this, it will gets me all teared up. I am in the same situation. I don&#8217;t know if my stay will be ended and have to give up my 10 year relationship. I have spent 8 of these years fighting to stay. I have never once out of status. I have always been here legally. But at what price? I have spent thousands of dollars doing this. I didn&#8217;t have one day that I can forget that this might be the last day I have with my partner. It is worst than having a terminal cancer because at least I will have a &#8220;expected&#8221; time to live.</p>
<p>To make things more difficult, I am now provider to my family. If I am gone, what will happen to my partner? He is 5 years away from retirement, have a 30 years mortgage to pay. He can&#8217;t get a job easily elsewhere in another country. Frankly, it will not be fair for him to have to leave this country and start live all over again.</p>
<p>Many have over stayed their visa valid date just to be with their partner. Meaning they will have to give up their friends and family back at another country since they can never reenter into US without a proper visa.</p>
<p>Lets face it, people make stupid and risky decisions because of love. Taking about fraud&#8230; I guess it will encouraged more fraud if UAFA is not pass because it will force a lot more people enter marriage just so that they can get a way to be with who they love.<br />
The alone proves that the true love exist. </p>
<p>We are running out of options and people that opposing this do not see it from the right angle. It is nothing to do with religion, sanctity of marriage or # of green cards like what was brought up in the public hearing for UAFA. The law should never be dictates by any of this but how it affects the people. The ultimate goal for the law is to give rights and protect those rights. Not to restrict them and cause harm.</p>
<p>People that argues gay marriage is a special right. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Special rights are those as opposite sex marriage because only them can have it. No body else can. If you don&#8217;t have that right to begin with and only wanted it so that we can be equal is not special rights. If those that insist to only have these rights protect and only they can enjoy&#8230; then it is special rights. </p>
<p>Yes there are more things we need to look into before UAFA can be perfect, but if we wait until we get it right before implementing it, it might never happen in a life time. Instead of arguing it can be done, why not make suggestions on how to improve it and make it work? I just kept hearing both sides of arguments but no resolution make to work together and come up with the better solutions or process. Don&#8217;t tell me it can be done but tell me what needs to be done to make this happen.</p>
<p>Please make this a speedy process because thousands of lives are depended on this bill&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LoveMoby</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoveMoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Obama slogan for the GLBT community:

YES WE CAN.....but we WONT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Obama slogan for the GLBT community:</p>
<p>YES WE CAN&#8230;..but we WONT!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert, NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert, NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tammy, points well taken. I think the UK will have a far easier time converting civil partnerships to full marriage recognition, its just a change in terminology because all of the rights and privileges of marriage are inherent in civil partnerships at the national level.  The only downside is, they are not so portable once you leave the UK.  The EU in general needs to mandate full marriage equality across the board.  Imagine the impact on America if that happened, and its not an impossibility. The EU has done a far better job on equality than the U.S.  With 44 states to go, its going to take more than a lifetime to get every state on board.  Unfortunately, religion holds a lot of power in our political system unlike western Europe, Canada and elsewhere.  Where else in the west would you hear a national leader bring god into the mix at almost every provocation?  Only in America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tammy, points well taken. I think the UK will have a far easier time converting civil partnerships to full marriage recognition, its just a change in terminology because all of the rights and privileges of marriage are inherent in civil partnerships at the national level.  The only downside is, they are not so portable once you leave the UK.  The EU in general needs to mandate full marriage equality across the board.  Imagine the impact on America if that happened, and its not an impossibility. The EU has done a far better job on equality than the U.S.  With 44 states to go, its going to take more than a lifetime to get every state on board.  Unfortunately, religion holds a lot of power in our political system unlike western Europe, Canada and elsewhere.  Where else in the west would you hear a national leader bring god into the mix at almost every provocation?  Only in America!</p>
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		<title>By: Steerpike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steerpike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m irish and my US boyfriend moved here to be with me around seven years ago. We made a lengthy application to the government to get him the right to work, but that&#039;s all we have right now, despite the long-promised civil unions bill that our useless incompetent leadership has been stalling on. His parents are quite old and the chance of spending an extended period with them in the USA would be leaped at. Alas, I think both of them will have passed away long before I have any chance of being with Peter in America long-term. So all we have at the moment is Christmas holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m irish and my US boyfriend moved here to be with me around seven years ago. We made a lengthy application to the government to get him the right to work, but that&#8217;s all we have right now, despite the long-promised civil unions bill that our useless incompetent leadership has been stalling on. His parents are quite old and the chance of spending an extended period with them in the USA would be leaped at. Alas, I think both of them will have passed away long before I have any chance of being with Peter in America long-term. So all we have at the moment is Christmas holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: R &#38; R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R &#38; R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with California?  It is still under the control of the bigoted Christian Taliban.  Hopefully that will change.  

I was taught as a child that marriage was the joining of two souls who loved each other and wanted to spend the rest of their lives growing together, supporting each other, and living as one.  Little did I know that none of that was true, that marriage is all about plumbing and &quot;tradition&quot; (what ever in hell that means).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with California?  It is still under the control of the bigoted Christian Taliban.  Hopefully that will change.  </p>
<p>I was taught as a child that marriage was the joining of two souls who loved each other and wanted to spend the rest of their lives growing together, supporting each other, and living as one.  Little did I know that none of that was true, that marriage is all about plumbing and &#8220;tradition&#8221; (what ever in hell that means).</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NH is now the 6th state to allow gay marriage. California whats wrong with u.
So much hate in california soon us gays will have gay marriage in california in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NH is now the 6th state to allow gay marriage. California whats wrong with u.<br />
So much hate in california soon us gays will have gay marriage in california in 2010.</p>
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