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	<title>Comments on: The &#8216;ban gay adoption&#8217; movement: sacrificing children</title>
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		<title>By: ps2os2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/living/the-ban-gay-adoption-movement-sacrificing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-95349</link>
		<dc:creator>ps2os2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is but one of many times that judicial &quot;adventuresome&quot; rulings actually make sense. One of the reasons may be that family court is more attuned to society than the regular court system.

I applaud the judges for making common sense and not letting the anti gay types ruin children. Maybe we should have a class for lawmakers on how not to try and legislate hate filled legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is but one of many times that judicial &#8220;adventuresome&#8221; rulings actually make sense. One of the reasons may be that family court is more attuned to society than the regular court system.</p>
<p>I applaud the judges for making common sense and not letting the anti gay types ruin children. Maybe we should have a class for lawmakers on how not to try and legislate hate filled legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Berdache Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/living/the-ban-gay-adoption-movement-sacrificing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-94477</link>
		<dc:creator>Berdache Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAVEAT: If you are Christian, but don&#039;t believe in anti-gay discrimination, the following remarks are not directed at, nor do they have anything to do with, you.

It seems to be, whenever you get to the beliefs/fears/hatred behind all of the anti-gay proponents, you find a basis in Christianity -- the Bible says; God says; Jesus said, etc., etc., etc.

They always demonstrate that although they brandish the shield (and sword) of Christianity, they are the last on earth to truly live a Christian life.

In the first book of their Bible, there is: &quot;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.&quot;  Where does it say, &quot;Get married, and be fruitful . . .?&quot;

The loudest Christians seem to have totally forgotten, &quot;Live and let live;&quot; &quot;He who is without sin . . .;&quot; &quot;Judge not lest ye be judged;&quot; &quot;Love thy neighbor as thyself;&quot; -- a whole truck load of tenants about loving and not judging.

These pseudo-Christians are like Faux News -- little substance, buts lots of judging and hatred -- without any attempts to verify as true their smear campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAVEAT: If you are Christian, but don&#8217;t believe in anti-gay discrimination, the following remarks are not directed at, nor do they have anything to do with, you.</p>
<p>It seems to be, whenever you get to the beliefs/fears/hatred behind all of the anti-gay proponents, you find a basis in Christianity &#8212; the Bible says; God says; Jesus said, etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>They always demonstrate that although they brandish the shield (and sword) of Christianity, they are the last on earth to truly live a Christian life.</p>
<p>In the first book of their Bible, there is: &#8220;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.&#8221;  Where does it say, &#8220;Get married, and be fruitful . . .?&#8221;</p>
<p>The loudest Christians seem to have totally forgotten, &#8220;Live and let live;&#8221; &#8220;He who is without sin . . .;&#8221; &#8220;Judge not lest ye be judged;&#8221; &#8220;Love thy neighbor as thyself;&#8221; &#8212; a whole truck load of tenants about loving and not judging.</p>
<p>These pseudo-Christians are like Faux News &#8212; little substance, buts lots of judging and hatred &#8212; without any attempts to verify as true their smear campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that these men have 2 fight 4 their children is ridiculous. A child&#039;s right&#039;s are always above any1 else&#039;s &amp; that surely includes the $ humgry state</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that these men have 2 fight 4 their children is ridiculous. A child&#8217;s right&#8217;s are always above any1 else&#8217;s &amp; that surely includes the $ humgry state</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/living/the-ban-gay-adoption-movement-sacrificing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-93747</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu prob know the new motto - every child deserves a mother and a father.

REally, every child deserves a loving home, where there is no bigotry against minorities in the name of God .

Being gay is inborn.  Hatred is taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu prob know the new motto &#8211; every child deserves a mother and a father.</p>
<p>REally, every child deserves a loving home, where there is no bigotry against minorities in the name of God .</p>
<p>Being gay is inborn.  Hatred is taught.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveMD2</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveMD2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noted that in a number of other countries that  allow gay marriage or civil uniion status, adoption has been the final sticking point.

The crazyness of the right wing in the USA shows that they know they are losing the marriage or civil recognition of gay couples.

So just as they used the fear tactics - gays would make your children gay to win Prop8 and ME prop1, now they will use this time real children to try and hold back equality.

And you can bet that the CAtholic church and talibangelicals will lead the way.

The same people who hid the rape of children by the church for decades if not centuries.  Because btw the rot reaches all the way to the top, and in the case of the talibangelicals, well if you realize how many of our black citizens are really mixed race, well in most cases, their white relatives were the slavemasters having a little fun, and making more cattle to sell off in the future.

Kinda says something about conservative religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noted that in a number of other countries that  allow gay marriage or civil uniion status, adoption has been the final sticking point.</p>
<p>The crazyness of the right wing in the USA shows that they know they are losing the marriage or civil recognition of gay couples.</p>
<p>So just as they used the fear tactics &#8211; gays would make your children gay to win Prop8 and ME prop1, now they will use this time real children to try and hold back equality.</p>
<p>And you can bet that the CAtholic church and talibangelicals will lead the way.</p>
<p>The same people who hid the rape of children by the church for decades if not centuries.  Because btw the rot reaches all the way to the top, and in the case of the talibangelicals, well if you realize how many of our black citizens are really mixed race, well in most cases, their white relatives were the slavemasters having a little fun, and making more cattle to sell off in the future.</p>
<p>Kinda says something about conservative religions.</p>
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		<title>By: drpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>drpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner and I are raising 3 boys, including twins born at only 28 weeks.  I feel that our children are quite fortunate to have us as parents, and we are even more fortunate to have them as children.  My partner left a 50,000 a year job to become a stay at home Papa.  I think becoming parents by choice, and not simply a happy (or not so happy) accident almost always means GLBT parents are better prepared, and emotionally able to care for their children when compared with their straight counterparts.  Even among adoptive parents, I think GLBT couples do better (or at the very least just as good) than straight couples.  In Straight world, there is a lot of pressure from their straight subculture to have children.  It doesn&#039;t matter what the parents want, it&#039;s expected.  In GLBT land, the opposite is true.  We are not expected to become parents.  If you really don&#039;t want to do it, there is little to no pressure to have children.  Thus, these parents must really want it if they are going to do it.

We live in a very small town in rural NM.  There is another gay couple in town that also have 3 boys.  These boys were adopted as older children, and were considered hard to place.  Two languished on the adoption lists for years waiting for a home.  When our friends entered these children&#039;s lives, they went from troubled kids who could not be left alone in a room with another child, to being happy, healthy, NORMAL children.  We all recently went on a camping trip, and they were absolutely delightful.  GLBT people who desire to become parents should not only be allowed, they should be encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner and I are raising 3 boys, including twins born at only 28 weeks.  I feel that our children are quite fortunate to have us as parents, and we are even more fortunate to have them as children.  My partner left a 50,000 a year job to become a stay at home Papa.  I think becoming parents by choice, and not simply a happy (or not so happy) accident almost always means GLBT parents are better prepared, and emotionally able to care for their children when compared with their straight counterparts.  Even among adoptive parents, I think GLBT couples do better (or at the very least just as good) than straight couples.  In Straight world, there is a lot of pressure from their straight subculture to have children.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what the parents want, it&#8217;s expected.  In GLBT land, the opposite is true.  We are not expected to become parents.  If you really don&#8217;t want to do it, there is little to no pressure to have children.  Thus, these parents must really want it if they are going to do it.</p>
<p>We live in a very small town in rural NM.  There is another gay couple in town that also have 3 boys.  These boys were adopted as older children, and were considered hard to place.  Two languished on the adoption lists for years waiting for a home.  When our friends entered these children&#8217;s lives, they went from troubled kids who could not be left alone in a room with another child, to being happy, healthy, NORMAL children.  We all recently went on a camping trip, and they were absolutely delightful.  GLBT people who desire to become parents should not only be allowed, they should be encouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: petenick</title>
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		<dc:creator>petenick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I and my partner are too old to raise children we believe it is great for gay people to adopt. There are so many children who need good homes and most of all love and we think gay people are well-prepared for these undertakings.
Mature young gay couples who are stable are great candidates. I believe one needs to be young to have kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I and my partner are too old to raise children we believe it is great for gay people to adopt. There are so many children who need good homes and most of all love and we think gay people are well-prepared for these undertakings.<br />
Mature young gay couples who are stable are great candidates. I believe one needs to be young to have kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in Long Beach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom in Long Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every child deserves a loving forever home is much truer than &quot;every child deserves a mother and a father&quot;. 
   What these Chritianist should be preaching is responsible safe sex and family planning.  Oh wait way to rational.   
   The truth is gay people can form stable long term relationships and can be as good a parents as anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every child deserves a loving forever home is much truer than &#8220;every child deserves a mother and a father&#8221;.<br />
   What these Chritianist should be preaching is responsible safe sex and family planning.  Oh wait way to rational.<br />
   The truth is gay people can form stable long term relationships and can be as good a parents as anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In several European countries, adoption was the last point of discrimination to be removed (or still remaining).  Funny how the &quot;family&quot; groups here only pay attention to adoption laws when those may be the last way left to impose petty and punitive discriminatory standards.  Not that you see Rekers or Maggie Gallagher going around the country trying to facilitate adoptions of autistic teenage kids by &quot;good christian&quot; families.  What a strange world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In several European countries, adoption was the last point of discrimination to be removed (or still remaining).  Funny how the &#8220;family&#8221; groups here only pay attention to adoption laws when those may be the last way left to impose petty and punitive discriminatory standards.  Not that you see Rekers or Maggie Gallagher going around the country trying to facilitate adoptions of autistic teenage kids by &#8220;good christian&#8221; families.  What a strange world.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Beyond Florida, some LGBT experts and advocates think that adoption could be the next major target –after marriage equality– for opponents of LGBT civil rights.

I&#039;m delighted. Let them run into that brick wall.

We have more scientific evidence to support adoption than we do for gay marriage. They are more likely to lose that battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Beyond Florida, some LGBT experts and advocates think that adoption could be the next major target –after marriage equality– for opponents of LGBT civil rights.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m delighted. Let them run into that brick wall.</p>
<p>We have more scientific evidence to support adoption than we do for gay marriage. They are more likely to lose that battle.</p>
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