Comments on: Gay – and Greek http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:28:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Stuff Queer People Need To Know http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-2/#comment-57779 Stuff Queer People Need To Know Wed, 20 May 2009 18:10:45 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57779 Queers and fraternity/sorority life http://snurl.com/ifle1 Queers and fraternity/sorority life http://snurl.com/ifle1

]]> By: Kari http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-2/#comment-57334 Kari Mon, 18 May 2009 14:39:52 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57334 Anthony: Greek life is not for everyone. Side effects are generally mild, but may include better social skills, a greater appreciation for organizations, networking opportunities and desire to make the world a better place. See your campus coordinator for fraternity and sorority life if you see or experience hazing or develop kidney or liver problems. People who are not able to keep secrets or respect the groups they are involved with should not take Greek life. Your fraternity and sorority life coordinator can tell you if Greek life is right for you. [Random man] "No one could tell me where my soul might be; I searched for God, but He eluded me; I sought my brother out and found all three." [Random woman] "To be rather than seem to be." Greek life. Proudly manufactured by the colleges and universities of the United States of America. Anthony: Greek life is not for everyone. Side effects are generally mild, but may include better social skills, a greater appreciation for organizations, networking opportunities and desire to make the world a better place. See your campus coordinator for fraternity and sorority life if you see or experience hazing or develop kidney or liver problems. People who are not able to keep secrets or respect the groups they are involved with should not take Greek life.

Your fraternity and sorority life coordinator can tell you if Greek life is right for you.

[Random man] “No one could tell me where my soul might be; I searched for God, but He eluded me; I sought my brother out and found all three.”

[Random woman] “To be rather than seem to be.”

Greek life. Proudly manufactured by the colleges and universities of the United States of America.

]]> By: Anthony in Nashville http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57313 Anthony in Nashville Mon, 18 May 2009 12:57:12 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57313 I've known several gay men in fraternities and apart from the business connections, have not understood the appeal. It's good that more people are willing and able to be open. But I'm skeptical about holding up greek life as something LGBTQ students should aspire to. I’ve known several gay men in fraternities and apart from the business connections, have not understood the appeal.

It’s good that more people are willing and able to be open. But I’m skeptical about holding up greek life as something LGBTQ students should aspire to.

]]> By: Andy http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57312 Andy Mon, 18 May 2009 12:52:32 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57312 Great story. My Pi Lam brothers all but stopped speaking to me when they heard rumors about me (early 90s). Sad, since we were like true brothers. Great story. My Pi Lam brothers all but stopped speaking to me when they heard rumors about me (early 90s). Sad, since we were like true brothers.

]]> By: Jay http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57262 Jay Sun, 17 May 2009 17:17:14 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57262 I am a very proud alumnus of TKE in the Midwest. The 70s were hell if you were gay and also unsure about life in general. I figured that was just how it would always be and considered myself bi for a while to smooth the transition. There were many gay guys in all the frats but it didn't seem to pay to be balls out when in leadership positions too. Those of us in university leadership positions then seemed to realize that changing the institution (Greek or otherwise) had to come from within. It still amazes me how many men & women of power and influence are in the closet (so we think!) but doing good deeds. Peace and support to those working "out" there now. I am a very proud alumnus of TKE in the Midwest.
The 70s were hell if you were gay and also unsure about life in general.
I figured that was just how it would always be and considered myself bi for a while to smooth the transition.
There were many gay guys in all the frats but it didn’t seem to pay to be balls out when in leadership positions too.
Those of us in university leadership positions then seemed to realize that changing the institution (Greek or otherwise) had to come from within. It still amazes me how many men & women of power and influence are in the closet (so we think!) but doing good deeds.
Peace and support to those working “out” there now.

]]> By: Matt http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57188 Matt Sat, 16 May 2009 13:25:14 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57188 I'm proud to say that I'm openly bi-sexual and in a mainstream national Fraternity and that our current PRESIDENT is openly gay. While there are still several highly homophobic fraternities on campus, our presence is a challenge to the others to become true brotherhoods and accept their gay (closeted) members for who they are. I’m proud to say that I’m openly bi-sexual and in a mainstream national Fraternity and that our current PRESIDENT is openly gay. While there are still several highly homophobic fraternities on campus, our presence is a challenge to the others to become true brotherhoods and accept their gay (closeted) members for who they are.

]]> By: GreekbyBlood http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57177 GreekbyBlood Sat, 16 May 2009 09:42:10 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57177 My story: in the late 80's early 90's I went to some "pledge parties" and was told by one "straight" guy that i was too "gay" although most of the "guys" liked me. Long story short, I saw this guy and actually few other guys that shunned me in college, etc, later in gay bars, trashing about in hot pants, etc. sad. I guess they're probably still just a bunch of pissy, clicky queens that need to be in a click to feel worthy. Nonetheless, I had made my happy little way by having my own TRUE dear friends, I can go on knowing I never had to pretend to be something I wasn't. I didn't and never would treat another gay, lesbian or anyone for that matter anyway I wouldn't want to be treated. My story: in the late 80’s early 90’s I went to some “pledge parties” and was told by one “straight” guy that i was too “gay” although most of the “guys” liked me. Long story short, I saw this guy and actually few other guys that shunned me in college, etc, later in gay bars, trashing about in hot pants, etc. sad.

I guess they’re probably still just a bunch of pissy, clicky queens that need to be in a click to feel worthy.

Nonetheless, I had made my happy little way by having my own TRUE dear friends, I can go on knowing I never had to pretend to be something I wasn’t. I didn’t and never would treat another gay, lesbian or anyone for that matter anyway I wouldn’t want to be treated.

]]> By: DeAnimator http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57158 DeAnimator Sat, 16 May 2009 02:24:02 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57158 The only Greeks that care are the dbags and ultra religious bigoted ones. It's important that Greek gays feel comfortable to come out and be open because guess what- there is no queer identity. The only identity comes from marginalization and once that is gone there won't be this ridiculous idea that we all have to behave a certain way. Queer people are just the same as straight people. Deal with it. The only Greeks that care are the dbags and ultra religious bigoted ones. It’s important that Greek gays feel comfortable to come out and be open because guess what- there is no queer identity. The only identity comes from marginalization and once that is gone there won’t be this ridiculous idea that we all have to behave a certain way. Queer people are just the same as straight people. Deal with it.

]]> By: SteveMD2 http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57155 SteveMD2 Sat, 16 May 2009 00:42:55 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57155 Read the Book: Brotherhood: Gay Life in College Fraternities, by Shane Windmayer ISBN-10: 1555838561 ISBN-13: 978-1555838560 You can buy it off Amazon, etc for about $5 in paperback. It is a collection of chapters by different gay people on their experiences. Most btw with happy endings. I think it was written about 5 yrs ago. Yes, one of the writers is an acquaintance. Just another nail in the coffin of homophobia, and the coffin of the right wing churches who cause this stain upon our national soul. Read the Book:

Brotherhood: Gay Life in College Fraternities, by Shane Windmayer

ISBN-10: 1555838561
ISBN-13: 978-1555838560

You can buy it off Amazon, etc for about $5 in paperback. It is a collection of chapters by different gay people on their experiences. Most btw with happy endings. I think it was written about 5 yrs ago. Yes, one of the writers is an acquaintance.

Just another nail in the coffin of homophobia, and the coffin of the right wing churches who cause this stain upon our national soul.

]]> By: Gay A Phi http://www.365gay.com/living/gay-and-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-57140 Gay A Phi Fri, 15 May 2009 23:00:47 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=7363#comment-57140 I came out when i was till in college. i was dating a girl in one of our rival houses. My house was fine with it. hers really wasn't. I just recently went back to my old campus and had a candle ceremony from my house because i am now engaged. The girls at that house were so supportive and still are to this day. They even love my soon to be wife and shes not even greek. Btw, the school and where i went to is in missouri. there were girls all over from alaska to new york to california. everyone was supportive. I came out when i was till in college. i was dating a girl in one of our rival houses. My house was fine with it. hers really wasn’t. I just recently went back to my old campus and had a candle ceremony from my house because i am now engaged. The girls at that house were so supportive and still are to this day. They even love my soon to be wife and shes not even greek. Btw, the school and where i went to is in missouri. there were girls all over from alaska to new york to california. everyone was supportive.

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