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	<title>Comments on: Kort: &#8220;My partner always talks about how hot other men are!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: John Newmark, LMHC</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Newmark, LMHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that openly admiring other men while in a relationship is really a potential bomb that needs to be carefully handled.  I know that when my partner of 17 years is obviously and blatantly lusting or &quot;admiring&quot; another man, it makes me feel like I am not &quot;good enough&quot; sometimes, even though I know that he would not ACT on that impulse.  We ALL are men, and very visually stimulated...but it is not necessary to gawk or lust in your heart for another man in a way that hurts your partner&#039;s feelings.  Be discreet and do not use jealousy as a weapon to gain leverage in your relationship.  MONOGAMY IS SEXY!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that openly admiring other men while in a relationship is really a potential bomb that needs to be carefully handled.  I know that when my partner of 17 years is obviously and blatantly lusting or &#8220;admiring&#8221; another man, it makes me feel like I am not &#8220;good enough&#8221; sometimes, even though I know that he would not ACT on that impulse.  We ALL are men, and very visually stimulated&#8230;but it is not necessary to gawk or lust in your heart for another man in a way that hurts your partner&#8217;s feelings.  Be discreet and do not use jealousy as a weapon to gain leverage in your relationship.  MONOGAMY IS SEXY!  <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly I would take it as a compliment. Perhaps he doesn&#039;t tell you these things because he feels that he doesn&#039;t have to. My partner and I always comment on other men but at the end of the day I am more than satisfied with him and he with me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I would take it as a compliment. Perhaps he doesn&#8217;t tell you these things because he feels that he doesn&#8217;t have to. My partner and I always comment on other men but at the end of the day I am more than satisfied with him and he with me!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Menstruator,
I just bet you go swaggering in these marches, nose up in the air with your revolting superior and smug attitude of &quot;I am much woman, and I am so much better than men and I want women to dominate the world&quot;! You make me want to throw up. &quot;Luckily I know about men so I can slam them every day&quot; says Menstruator. Truth is, Menstruator, you are a sexist and a divisive man-hater and if you didn&#039;t have men to hate and kick around, you wouldn&#039;t know what to do with your life. If I were another lesbian (and again I respect women in general whereas you despise men in general, your own words are full of that) and met you face to face and I found out your icky attitude toward men, I would walk away from you as fast as I could. &quot;let&#039;s have man on man violence&quot; says Menstruator one week and another week it&#039;s &quot;Ladies, please no violence&quot;. 

I have finished now with what I have to say and I trust the other men here and those women who are fair-minded and tolerant of their gay &quot;brothers&quot;
now have a fuller picture of your ugly attitude toward men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Menstruator,<br />
I just bet you go swaggering in these marches, nose up in the air with your revolting superior and smug attitude of &#8220;I am much woman, and I am so much better than men and I want women to dominate the world&#8221;! You make me want to throw up. &#8220;Luckily I know about men so I can slam them every day&#8221; says Menstruator. Truth is, Menstruator, you are a sexist and a divisive man-hater and if you didn&#8217;t have men to hate and kick around, you wouldn&#8217;t know what to do with your life. If I were another lesbian (and again I respect women in general whereas you despise men in general, your own words are full of that) and met you face to face and I found out your icky attitude toward men, I would walk away from you as fast as I could. &#8220;let&#8217;s have man on man violence&#8221; says Menstruator one week and another week it&#8217;s &#8220;Ladies, please no violence&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have finished now with what I have to say and I trust the other men here and those women who are fair-minded and tolerant of their gay &#8220;brothers&#8221;<br />
now have a fuller picture of your ugly attitude toward men.</p>
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		<title>By: The Menstruator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Menstruator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I had no idea men were so insecure. They are almost human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I had no idea men were so insecure. They are almost human.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point here is communication.

Couples are all different, just as individuals are all different. Some feel that sharing what they see is acceptable, while others feel differently. The point is to be able to communicate with your partner on what you both feel is the best thing to do.

After all, if one person feels resentment for what the other is doing, then it WILL show in time. Unfortunately, it will not always show itself in a way that connects with the true problem. And sometimes we may even forget why we have been getting upset in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point here is communication.</p>
<p>Couples are all different, just as individuals are all different. Some feel that sharing what they see is acceptable, while others feel differently. The point is to be able to communicate with your partner on what you both feel is the best thing to do.</p>
<p>After all, if one person feels resentment for what the other is doing, then it WILL show in time. Unfortunately, it will not always show itself in a way that connects with the true problem. And sometimes we may even forget why we have been getting upset in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe mentioned straight therapist John Gottman, but didn&#039;t mention the great work by gay therapist David McWhirter &amp; his partner Andrew Mattison entitled &quot;The Male Couple.&quot;  In their long term study of gay male couples, McWhirter &amp; Mattison found that the five year mark in a gay couple&#039;s relationship seems to be very significant; it&#039;s where the spiritual side of their love (agape) is (or isn&#039;t) strong enough to maintain their bonds when the physical side of their love (eros) loosens up.  I particularly like the example of Albert and Jacob.  Albert said: &quot;I had  always expected sexual fidelity from Jacob.  My parents were faithful to each other, and I expected us to be the same.  Then Jacob&#039;s eyes started wandering . . .&quot;  Jacob said: &quot;I did go out with a guy after Albert told me I had to do what I had to do.  I sneaked in that evening about 9 p.m. and found Albert waiting up with a dozen red roses for me.  He could have done anything else, hit me, cried, screamed, been angry, but when he gave me the roses and a big hug I got his message in big neon lights.&quot;  (Jake &amp; Al had been partners for 44 years.) Hugs to all. Mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe mentioned straight therapist John Gottman, but didn&#8217;t mention the great work by gay therapist David McWhirter &amp; his partner Andrew Mattison entitled &#8220;The Male Couple.&#8221;  In their long term study of gay male couples, McWhirter &amp; Mattison found that the five year mark in a gay couple&#8217;s relationship seems to be very significant; it&#8217;s where the spiritual side of their love (agape) is (or isn&#8217;t) strong enough to maintain their bonds when the physical side of their love (eros) loosens up.  I particularly like the example of Albert and Jacob.  Albert said: &#8220;I had  always expected sexual fidelity from Jacob.  My parents were faithful to each other, and I expected us to be the same.  Then Jacob&#8217;s eyes started wandering . . .&#8221;  Jacob said: &#8220;I did go out with a guy after Albert told me I had to do what I had to do.  I sneaked in that evening about 9 p.m. and found Albert waiting up with a dozen red roses for me.  He could have done anything else, hit me, cried, screamed, been angry, but when he gave me the roses and a big hug I got his message in big neon lights.&#8221;  (Jake &amp; Al had been partners for 44 years.) Hugs to all. Mac</p>
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		<title>By: LezBeFriends</title>
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		<dc:creator>LezBeFriends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, if I may add, is this any different than if a gay guy commented on a girl looking hot, or liking a girl&#039;s clothes? I feel like in all fairness it should be a two-way street, but I am not entirely convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, if I may add, is this any different than if a gay guy commented on a girl looking hot, or liking a girl&#8217;s clothes? I feel like in all fairness it should be a two-way street, but I am not entirely convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: LezBeFriends</title>
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		<dc:creator>LezBeFriends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend constantly makes comments to me about how attractive a guy is...or how muscley (sp?) a guy is. Should I be concerned? She has never said she is Bi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend constantly makes comments to me about how attractive a guy is&#8230;or how muscley (sp?) a guy is. Should I be concerned? She has never said she is Bi.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Rocha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Rocha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pink Collared:

   I&#039;m going to add to what Joe said, something that struck me that he didn&#039;t mention specific to the medical field. (Which he really should have thought of being a therapist IMO *grins*). The medical profession is suppose to abide by the hypocratic oath, right? To do no harm? If your coworkers express disapproval should you decide to come out, aren&#039;t they violating the hypocratic oath? Because the kind of psychological harm that can cause is ten times worse than any physical ailment. People are capable of doing thing that are, medically speaking, next to impossible, aren&#039;t they? Beating odds because they hold onto their hope, their self-confidence and their willpower, healing even when there is no impetus behind the healing. But not even the best doctor can save a person who becomes convinced that they don&#039;t deserve to live and thus doesn&#039;t WANT to be saved. If they are real doctors, who got into the field to try and save people they and not simply to make doctor level money, they will have to reconciling that holding that position isn&#039;t so easy to justify.

To Ramon, and those who disagree with pointing out hot guys to a partner:

Personally, I&#039;m with those who accept it. If it makes your partner uncomfortable, then yes it&#039;s best to shield your comments to protect them, but if the talk of it being disrespectful to make the comments at all, I disagree and hold the opposite. In my opinion it shows a level of trust and respect that you can share who you find physically attractive. It&#039;s something uniquely homosexual, a straight couple generally won&#039;t be attracted to the same gender like a lesbian or gay couple will be. You say should finding other people attractive trump your partners feelings, but I say why should it diminish your feelings for each other? It&#039;s something only people who are comfortable with each other would be able to do. That&#039;s some of my thoughts at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink Collared:</p>
<p>   I&#8217;m going to add to what Joe said, something that struck me that he didn&#8217;t mention specific to the medical field. (Which he really should have thought of being a therapist IMO *grins*). The medical profession is suppose to abide by the hypocratic oath, right? To do no harm? If your coworkers express disapproval should you decide to come out, aren&#8217;t they violating the hypocratic oath? Because the kind of psychological harm that can cause is ten times worse than any physical ailment. People are capable of doing thing that are, medically speaking, next to impossible, aren&#8217;t they? Beating odds because they hold onto their hope, their self-confidence and their willpower, healing even when there is no impetus behind the healing. But not even the best doctor can save a person who becomes convinced that they don&#8217;t deserve to live and thus doesn&#8217;t WANT to be saved. If they are real doctors, who got into the field to try and save people they and not simply to make doctor level money, they will have to reconciling that holding that position isn&#8217;t so easy to justify.</p>
<p>To Ramon, and those who disagree with pointing out hot guys to a partner:</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m with those who accept it. If it makes your partner uncomfortable, then yes it&#8217;s best to shield your comments to protect them, but if the talk of it being disrespectful to make the comments at all, I disagree and hold the opposite. In my opinion it shows a level of trust and respect that you can share who you find physically attractive. It&#8217;s something uniquely homosexual, a straight couple generally won&#8217;t be attracted to the same gender like a lesbian or gay couple will be. You say should finding other people attractive trump your partners feelings, but I say why should it diminish your feelings for each other? It&#8217;s something only people who are comfortable with each other would be able to do. That&#8217;s some of my thoughts at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowbare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rowbare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner (of 27+ years) and I have always and are always commenting about other guys. Never any jealousy, always knew where we stood with each other. Sometimes we even bring up other cute guys we&#039;ve seen while we are having sex. Every couple is different with their boundaries. For us the comments were never a problem. We&#039;ve always been people watchers. Actually, I think we&#039;ve even slept with some of the guys we both commented on. It&#039;s all about trust and communicating. It&#039;s in our heart, not our eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner (of 27+ years) and I have always and are always commenting about other guys. Never any jealousy, always knew where we stood with each other. Sometimes we even bring up other cute guys we&#8217;ve seen while we are having sex. Every couple is different with their boundaries. For us the comments were never a problem. We&#8217;ve always been people watchers. Actually, I think we&#8217;ve even slept with some of the guys we both commented on. It&#8217;s all about trust and communicating. It&#8217;s in our heart, not our eyes.</p>
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