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		<title>By: blubuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>blubuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like to criticize, but several things about this advice irked me. I&#039;ll start by saying that I agree with the end advice: take turns going to each others&#039; family holidays (or some other way of going to both, TOGETHER). I do not, however, agree with the way that some of it was given.

&quot;I wonder if you have internalized homophobia and if this is an expression of that. Even though your parents accept that you are lesbian are you out about it?&quot;

Really? That could be very insulting and I don&#039;t think it needed to be asked outright. Eliminate these sentences from that paragraph, and the other questions alone would be very good at helping someone see signs of acceptance from their family that they didn&#039;t see before.

&quot;In your case, your family sounds like they might be open to this conversation...&quot;

What does &quot;Don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; mean to you? Certainly not, &quot;hey, let&#039;s have a really uncomfortable conversation over Christmas dinner!&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean that the conversation shouldn&#039;t happen (IT SHOULD!), but it seems like the author created a completely different image in their head of what this family is like compared to what &quot;Homo for the Holidays&quot; wrote.

&quot;...and keeps it from growing into a healthy adult relationship.&quot;

Seems like a lot of value judging on what their relationship is (without enough information to do so) rather than simply offering advice on the topic that was asked. The rest of their relationship could be completely &quot;adult&quot; and it doesn&#039;t *have* to hinge on this one thing. And I won&#039;t even bring up ageism...oops. I don&#039;t see anywhere in that letter an age (either current or indicating that they started dating as &quot;non-adults&quot;).

It just seems like the way this advice was delivered is overly assertive and reflective of the author&#039;s specific values. There&#039;s isn&#039;t enough information in the letter nor establishment of a relationship between the author and the writer to support that.

And there are several comments advocating a &quot;screw em&quot; mentality, or cutting yourself off from un-supportive family which is COMPLETELY counter-productive. If they do the cutting, then there&#039;s not much to be done. But don&#039;t be the one to initiate that or you&#039;ll never be a family with your family. It may not be easy, but nobody said life was easy. Having the difficult conversations and challenging perceptions is the only way that we are going to move society forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like to criticize, but several things about this advice irked me. I&#8217;ll start by saying that I agree with the end advice: take turns going to each others&#8217; family holidays (or some other way of going to both, TOGETHER). I do not, however, agree with the way that some of it was given.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder if you have internalized homophobia and if this is an expression of that. Even though your parents accept that you are lesbian are you out about it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? That could be very insulting and I don&#8217;t think it needed to be asked outright. Eliminate these sentences from that paragraph, and the other questions alone would be very good at helping someone see signs of acceptance from their family that they didn&#8217;t see before.</p>
<p>&#8220;In your case, your family sounds like they might be open to this conversation&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>What does &#8220;Don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; mean to you? Certainly not, &#8220;hey, let&#8217;s have a really uncomfortable conversation over Christmas dinner!&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean that the conversation shouldn&#8217;t happen (IT SHOULD!), but it seems like the author created a completely different image in their head of what this family is like compared to what &#8220;Homo for the Holidays&#8221; wrote.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and keeps it from growing into a healthy adult relationship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems like a lot of value judging on what their relationship is (without enough information to do so) rather than simply offering advice on the topic that was asked. The rest of their relationship could be completely &#8220;adult&#8221; and it doesn&#8217;t *have* to hinge on this one thing. And I won&#8217;t even bring up ageism&#8230;oops. I don&#8217;t see anywhere in that letter an age (either current or indicating that they started dating as &#8220;non-adults&#8221;).</p>
<p>It just seems like the way this advice was delivered is overly assertive and reflective of the author&#8217;s specific values. There&#8217;s isn&#8217;t enough information in the letter nor establishment of a relationship between the author and the writer to support that.</p>
<p>And there are several comments advocating a &#8220;screw em&#8221; mentality, or cutting yourself off from un-supportive family which is COMPLETELY counter-productive. If they do the cutting, then there&#8217;s not much to be done. But don&#8217;t be the one to initiate that or you&#8217;ll never be a family with your family. It may not be easy, but nobody said life was easy. Having the difficult conversations and challenging perceptions is the only way that we are going to move society forward.</p>
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		<title>By: warren1917</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner of 25 years is at home with Mommy &amp; Sis. I am not welcome. I asked over Thanksgiving for him to come home early on Friday due to it being my birthday, he did not. I missed my own birthday dinner because he showed up for this and I refused at the last minute. Now it is Christmas and I asked him to spend Christmas Eve with me and freinds, have dinner @ 5:30 pm, then depart for Christmas holidays @ Mommy&#039;s, he instead made plans to leave @ 7:00 am on Christmas Eve with a freind and return on Saturday the 26th in time to go to work. I say he has signed our divorce decree. What say you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner of 25 years is at home with Mommy &amp; Sis. I am not welcome. I asked over Thanksgiving for him to come home early on Friday due to it being my birthday, he did not. I missed my own birthday dinner because he showed up for this and I refused at the last minute. Now it is Christmas and I asked him to spend Christmas Eve with me and freinds, have dinner @ 5:30 pm, then depart for Christmas holidays @ Mommy&#8217;s, he instead made plans to leave @ 7:00 am on Christmas Eve with a freind and return on Saturday the 26th in time to go to work. I say he has signed our divorce decree. What say you?</p>
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		<title>By: SteveHansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveHansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would you want to be separated on Christmas day, of all days?  My other half and I both have to travel on business sometimes, but other than that we are together every night, and have been for almost 20 years.

This year, he just started a new job, and has no time to take off, so we cannot travel.  My brothers, nephews, and nieces are all gathering at my parents house -- but we won&#039;t be there.  I am NOT leaving him alone at Christmas time.  The rest of my family understands that.  I am almost surprised they didn&#039;t all decide to come here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would you want to be separated on Christmas day, of all days?  My other half and I both have to travel on business sometimes, but other than that we are together every night, and have been for almost 20 years.</p>
<p>This year, he just started a new job, and has no time to take off, so we cannot travel.  My brothers, nephews, and nieces are all gathering at my parents house &#8212; but we won&#8217;t be there.  I am NOT leaving him alone at Christmas time.  The rest of my family understands that.  I am almost surprised they didn&#8217;t all decide to come here.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments are awesome! It is always what I hoped for gays and lesbians to feel this way. We must take a stand for our new families and are family of origin! Thanks for the responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments are awesome! It is always what I hoped for gays and lesbians to feel this way. We must take a stand for our new families and are family of origin! Thanks for the responses.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelandfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelandfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyone here. Being a &quot;family&quot; with your partner means exactly that. YOU are the unit that comes first. Straight couples eventually have to make this kind of accommodation as well, although often after children come. Regardless, you are adults now with adult lives. If you and your partner truly are a unit or family, than your needs as a couple come first, your other family second. Time to grow up. If your adult family members cannot accept you, your sexuality or your partner, than you need to explain why you won&#039;t be coming home for the holidays. 

I too spent the first few years as &quot;the friend who had nowhere else to go&quot; then &quot;the relationship that wasn&#039;t spoken about.&quot; Eventually I told my partner I didn&#039;t want to go anymore. I&#039;d rather spend it by myself than be someone&#039;s third wheel or dirty secret. So he dealt with it, and much easier than he had expected, and now we trade off years. 

Your first responsibility is to your partner and their needs, then your adult family members, holidays or not. You&#039;re no longer a child. Children grown up, leave home and start their own lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone here. Being a &#8220;family&#8221; with your partner means exactly that. YOU are the unit that comes first. Straight couples eventually have to make this kind of accommodation as well, although often after children come. Regardless, you are adults now with adult lives. If you and your partner truly are a unit or family, than your needs as a couple come first, your other family second. Time to grow up. If your adult family members cannot accept you, your sexuality or your partner, than you need to explain why you won&#8217;t be coming home for the holidays. </p>
<p>I too spent the first few years as &#8220;the friend who had nowhere else to go&#8221; then &#8220;the relationship that wasn&#8217;t spoken about.&#8221; Eventually I told my partner I didn&#8217;t want to go anymore. I&#8217;d rather spend it by myself than be someone&#8217;s third wheel or dirty secret. So he dealt with it, and much easier than he had expected, and now we trade off years. </p>
<p>Your first responsibility is to your partner and their needs, then your adult family members, holidays or not. You&#8217;re no longer a child. Children grown up, leave home and start their own lives.</p>
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		<title>By: LegalNCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LegalNCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just holidays, but for any kind of family function, such as the like of birthdays, weddings and anniversaries as well.
My husband and I have been together for 30 years this coming February and this is familiar territory. 
 Fortunately I came out to my parents back when I was eighteen. I met my husband when I was thirty and he was twenty-two. The uncomfortable part was he hadn&#039;t informed his parents that he was gay for the first eight years of our relationship. Even though I was invited to all of my husbands family functions, I was introduced to his family members as his roommate, but at my families get togethers he was known and accepted as my partner. 
Finally my partner told his parents and family that he was gay and that we were partners. Their response was, &quot;We already figured that out a long time ago&quot;.
We are very fortunate in both our family&#039;s acceptance, where many other gay and lesbian couples are not.
 My advice would be to go as a couple if there&#039;s acceptance. Going your own separate ways for the holidays is your own fear of rejection by your families and you are putting a ugly strain on your own loving relationship. 
Separate is not equal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just holidays, but for any kind of family function, such as the like of birthdays, weddings and anniversaries as well.<br />
My husband and I have been together for 30 years this coming February and this is familiar territory.<br />
 Fortunately I came out to my parents back when I was eighteen. I met my husband when I was thirty and he was twenty-two. The uncomfortable part was he hadn&#8217;t informed his parents that he was gay for the first eight years of our relationship. Even though I was invited to all of my husbands family functions, I was introduced to his family members as his roommate, but at my families get togethers he was known and accepted as my partner.<br />
Finally my partner told his parents and family that he was gay and that we were partners. Their response was, &#8220;We already figured that out a long time ago&#8221;.<br />
We are very fortunate in both our family&#8217;s acceptance, where many other gay and lesbian couples are not.<br />
 My advice would be to go as a couple if there&#8217;s acceptance. Going your own separate ways for the holidays is your own fear of rejection by your families and you are putting a ugly strain on your own loving relationship.<br />
Separate is not equal!</p>
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		<title>By: bobweekend</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobweekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote is to go as a family.  If the people you raised you can&#039;t deal with it then that is their problem.  If after 10 years they have not accepted her as their daughter-in-law then I say screw em.  

Sometimes you have to force the issue.
My partner of 16 years was married before we got together. He has two daughters.  It took them about 4 years to realize that they still loved their dad and now we are both back in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote is to go as a family.  If the people you raised you can&#8217;t deal with it then that is their problem.  If after 10 years they have not accepted her as their daughter-in-law then I say screw em.  </p>
<p>Sometimes you have to force the issue.<br />
My partner of 16 years was married before we got together. He has two daughters.  It took them about 4 years to realize that they still loved their dad and now we are both back in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Brennan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been with my BF for thirteen years and we have always spent the Holidays with his family in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Most of the rest of the year, we are in Ireland near my family. Neither family has ever thought that we should do anything else. We&#039;re all good progessive people but we are as well received by our conservative relations (in Grand Rapids and Reno) as anyone else. I wish everyone had families like ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with my BF for thirteen years and we have always spent the Holidays with his family in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Most of the rest of the year, we are in Ireland near my family. Neither family has ever thought that we should do anything else. We&#8217;re all good progessive people but we are as well received by our conservative relations (in Grand Rapids and Reno) as anyone else. I wish everyone had families like ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher A Emery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher A Emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love is supposed to be unconditional (both family and romanticly), if a family member cant still love you after finding out your gay then they don&#039;t really love you at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love is supposed to be unconditional (both family and romanticly), if a family member cant still love you after finding out your gay then they don&#8217;t really love you at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey773</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey773</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simple.  If the family doesn&#039;t like gay couples, then don&#039;t associate with them.  I have distanced myself from bigoted family members before and recommend it for everyone.  Take out the trash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simple.  If the family doesn&#8217;t like gay couples, then don&#8217;t associate with them.  I have distanced myself from bigoted family members before and recommend it for everyone.  Take out the trash!</p>
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