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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy  Giuliani.  No one else has the national security credentials (except Hillary who is ambition personified and for whom I could never vote)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy  Giuliani.  No one else has the national security credentials (except Hillary who is ambition personified and for whom I could never vote)</p>
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		<title>By: TroyTooner</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-2/#comment-3769</link>
		<dc:creator>TroyTooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m for Edwards, but at this point, I&#039;m feeling like he&#039;s just plain not going to win the nomination. I&#039;m not feeling the love for Obama or Clinton. Like Andy stated above, I&#039;m not sure Obama is prepared enough. Or tough enough. I also feel Mrs. Clinton is a bit too corporatist, establishment for my tastes. To me, she comes off as Republican light. So do I vote for Edwards in the primary, even though I think he&#039;s not going to get the nomination, or Clinton because, as she keeps saying herself, that she&#039;s more ready to hit the ground running? Haven&#039;t decided yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for Edwards, but at this point, I&#8217;m feeling like he&#8217;s just plain not going to win the nomination. I&#8217;m not feeling the love for Obama or Clinton. Like Andy stated above, I&#8217;m not sure Obama is prepared enough. Or tough enough. I also feel Mrs. Clinton is a bit too corporatist, establishment for my tastes. To me, she comes off as Republican light. So do I vote for Edwards in the primary, even though I think he&#8217;s not going to get the nomination, or Clinton because, as she keeps saying herself, that she&#8217;s more ready to hit the ground running? Haven&#8217;t decided yet.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-2/#comment-3768</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Crain said this:

&quot;But only Obama (and John Edwards) supports full repeal of DOMA, including the provision that says each state can choose to ignore gay marriages from other states.&quot;

Why do you or anyone else buy this meaningless excuse for policy?

It is not impressive that candidates support the repeal of DOMA that will allow states to recognize gay marriages, when over HALF the country has amended and legislated (and many have done both) to prevent it from happening.

IS it supposed to be laudable that our relationships will be sorta accepted in 10 states - if all ten states don&#039;t have a DOMA of their own (CA does) and maybe has a same sex relationship law that isn&#039;t as generous as the next state?

Oh, this is an enormous mess, don&#039;t forget it.  The brave and visionary candidates are allowed to get away with making hollow promises of meaningless solutions by LGBT pundits that are too afraid to rock the boat.

Want to be impressed by a Democrat?  Ask one to campaign in Florida to stop the amendment from passing in 11/08.

That would signal a commitment to change and integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Crain said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;But only Obama (and John Edwards) supports full repeal of DOMA, including the provision that says each state can choose to ignore gay marriages from other states.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you or anyone else buy this meaningless excuse for policy?</p>
<p>It is not impressive that candidates support the repeal of DOMA that will allow states to recognize gay marriages, when over HALF the country has amended and legislated (and many have done both) to prevent it from happening.</p>
<p>IS it supposed to be laudable that our relationships will be sorta accepted in 10 states &#8211; if all ten states don&#8217;t have a DOMA of their own (CA does) and maybe has a same sex relationship law that isn&#8217;t as generous as the next state?</p>
<p>Oh, this is an enormous mess, don&#8217;t forget it.  The brave and visionary candidates are allowed to get away with making hollow promises of meaningless solutions by LGBT pundits that are too afraid to rock the boat.</p>
<p>Want to be impressed by a Democrat?  Ask one to campaign in Florida to stop the amendment from passing in 11/08.</p>
<p>That would signal a commitment to change and integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Andoni</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-2/#comment-3767</link>
		<dc:creator>Andoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Obama because he is the best viable candidate on our issues.

In the past I supported Kucinich (perfect on our issues) and Richardson (best track record on our issues), but concluded that neither could get elected, which believe it or not, is really quite important.

Everyone goes into this with a little bias on candidates.  Mine is that I am one of the ones who got thrown under the bus by the Clintons.  I worked my heart for Bill in 1992, leading an army of LGBT volunteers to help him win my Southern state.  When I had a minute with him one on one he thanked me and inquired a little about me.  I told him I was working so hard for him because he promised to sign an executive order to allow gays to serve openly in the military.  He told me that I go could to the bank with that, which I conveyed to every gay person I knew, which motivated them even more to work and vote for him.

The rest is history.  If DADT didn&#039;t kill me with the Clintons, DOMA did.

An added feature which I didn&#039;t fully know at the time was how much crossover power Obama has.  He has the potential for a 1964 or 1932 kind of victory, which will certainly be most helpful in our quest to pass all the gay rights legislation that has been waiting for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Obama because he is the best viable candidate on our issues.</p>
<p>In the past I supported Kucinich (perfect on our issues) and Richardson (best track record on our issues), but concluded that neither could get elected, which believe it or not, is really quite important.</p>
<p>Everyone goes into this with a little bias on candidates.  Mine is that I am one of the ones who got thrown under the bus by the Clintons.  I worked my heart for Bill in 1992, leading an army of LGBT volunteers to help him win my Southern state.  When I had a minute with him one on one he thanked me and inquired a little about me.  I told him I was working so hard for him because he promised to sign an executive order to allow gays to serve openly in the military.  He told me that I go could to the bank with that, which I conveyed to every gay person I knew, which motivated them even more to work and vote for him.</p>
<p>The rest is history.  If DADT didn&#8217;t kill me with the Clintons, DOMA did.</p>
<p>An added feature which I didn&#8217;t fully know at the time was how much crossover power Obama has.  He has the potential for a 1964 or 1932 kind of victory, which will certainly be most helpful in our quest to pass all the gay rights legislation that has been waiting for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Stern</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-2/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am supporting John Edwards.  I have been a volunteer advisor to the Edwards Campaign since the beginning of 2007.  I still believe that because John Edwards has not taken a dime from special interests or political action committees that he stands the best chance of bringing about real reform in Washington.  This principled position will mean that when he is working with Congress to reform health care, Edwards will not  have to return any favors to HMOs or the pharmaceutical companies who had nothing to do with electing him to the White House.  (Obama has also honorably not taken any money from special interest groups, but has at least one lobbyist serving as a campaign chairman in NH).

I love all three of our candidates.  I am excited about the high voter turnout in IA (and apparently today in NH as well).  I watched both the GOP and Dem debates last weekend and was so proud of all 4 of the Democratic candidates.  I think we have a real chance to win and I hope that our community can unite behind our nominee (regardless of who it is) to turn this country around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am supporting John Edwards.  I have been a volunteer advisor to the Edwards Campaign since the beginning of 2007.  I still believe that because John Edwards has not taken a dime from special interests or political action committees that he stands the best chance of bringing about real reform in Washington.  This principled position will mean that when he is working with Congress to reform health care, Edwards will not  have to return any favors to HMOs or the pharmaceutical companies who had nothing to do with electing him to the White House.  (Obama has also honorably not taken any money from special interest groups, but has at least one lobbyist serving as a campaign chairman in NH).</p>
<p>I love all three of our candidates.  I am excited about the high voter turnout in IA (and apparently today in NH as well).  I watched both the GOP and Dem debates last weekend and was so proud of all 4 of the Democratic candidates.  I think we have a real chance to win and I hope that our community can unite behind our nominee (regardless of who it is) to turn this country around.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Crain</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-3765</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Crain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are differences between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on gay rights when it comes to legal recognition of our relationships. Both oppose a constitutional amendment banning gays from marrying and both support repealing the provision of the “Defense of Marriage Act” that blocks federal recognition of marriage licenses issued to gay couples.

But only Obama (and John Edwards) supports full repeal of DOMA, including the provision that says each state can choose to ignore gay marriages from other states. Clinton won’t go that far and also has stopped short of criticizing her husband for signing DOMA and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” into law.

Even though the differences on gay rights aren&#039;t huge, Clinton and Obama represent starkly different choices. She is the party’s establishment candidate and a well-known quantity. Her hard-nosed pragmatism is admired by some as a can-do approach, and criticized by others as overly cautious and calculating.

In probably the most important moment of last fall’s HRC-Logo presidential forum, Hillary seemed completely unmoved by Melissa Etheridge recalling in personal terms how gay Americans felt “thrown under the bus” in the 1990s when Bill Clinton failed to live up as president to the promises he made to gays as a candidate.

If anything, Hillary is even more cautious than her husband and if elected would face Republicans with knives at the ready on gay issues. Despite many opportunities, she has not given gay voters any reason to believe she would show more leadership on gay rights than her husband did. Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us.

Like Clinton, Obama offers a historic candidacy with the potential to transform American politics. Unlike Clinton – rightly or wrongly – Obama does not polarize the public. Hillary would begin a general election with 46 percent unfavorable ratings – a very small margin to win, not to mention to govern.

Except on marriage, Obama has hit all the right notes on the gay rights issues of the day, and he has refused to pander. He has chastised conservative black pastors and white evangelicals alike for opposing gay rights and aggressive HIV prevention. Obama is the only candidate who talks regularly about gay rights, including civil unions, in front of national audiences, and he is the candidate best suited to reach out to independents and Republicans in the general election and in fulfilling the promises he has made as a candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are differences between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on gay rights when it comes to legal recognition of our relationships. Both oppose a constitutional amendment banning gays from marrying and both support repealing the provision of the “Defense of Marriage Act” that blocks federal recognition of marriage licenses issued to gay couples.</p>
<p>But only Obama (and John Edwards) supports full repeal of DOMA, including the provision that says each state can choose to ignore gay marriages from other states. Clinton won’t go that far and also has stopped short of criticizing her husband for signing DOMA and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” into law.</p>
<p>Even though the differences on gay rights aren&#8217;t huge, Clinton and Obama represent starkly different choices. She is the party’s establishment candidate and a well-known quantity. Her hard-nosed pragmatism is admired by some as a can-do approach, and criticized by others as overly cautious and calculating.</p>
<p>In probably the most important moment of last fall’s HRC-Logo presidential forum, Hillary seemed completely unmoved by Melissa Etheridge recalling in personal terms how gay Americans felt “thrown under the bus” in the 1990s when Bill Clinton failed to live up as president to the promises he made to gays as a candidate.</p>
<p>If anything, Hillary is even more cautious than her husband and if elected would face Republicans with knives at the ready on gay issues. Despite many opportunities, she has not given gay voters any reason to believe she would show more leadership on gay rights than her husband did. Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us.</p>
<p>Like Clinton, Obama offers a historic candidacy with the potential to transform American politics. Unlike Clinton – rightly or wrongly – Obama does not polarize the public. Hillary would begin a general election with 46 percent unfavorable ratings – a very small margin to win, not to mention to govern.</p>
<p>Except on marriage, Obama has hit all the right notes on the gay rights issues of the day, and he has refused to pander. He has chastised conservative black pastors and white evangelicals alike for opposing gay rights and aggressive HIV prevention. Obama is the only candidate who talks regularly about gay rights, including civil unions, in front of national audiences, and he is the candidate best suited to reach out to independents and Republicans in the general election and in fulfilling the promises he has made as a candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa neff</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-3764</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa neff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve supported Hillary Clinton from the start, with John Edwards as the No. 2 fallback (until this last week with his contrived and strategic attacks on Clinton). The Barack Obama lovefest confounds me, and I have to say, a lot of the other folks I know from Illinois who see him as a tried and true Chicago Democrat. I was on an editorial board in Chicago that couldn&#039;t even endorse Obama&#039;s candidacy in the primary for U.S. Senate because of his lack of record and experience, as well as his lack of commitment on our issues. He wouldn&#039;t get pinned down on anything. Now he&#039;s the Dems&#039; favorite for president? I, for one, want someone who works for change, not speaks of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve supported Hillary Clinton from the start, with John Edwards as the No. 2 fallback (until this last week with his contrived and strategic attacks on Clinton). The Barack Obama lovefest confounds me, and I have to say, a lot of the other folks I know from Illinois who see him as a tried and true Chicago Democrat. I was on an editorial board in Chicago that couldn&#8217;t even endorse Obama&#8217;s candidacy in the primary for U.S. Senate because of his lack of record and experience, as well as his lack of commitment on our issues. He wouldn&#8217;t get pinned down on anything. Now he&#8217;s the Dems&#8217; favorite for president? I, for one, want someone who works for change, not speaks of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-3763</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly support Hillary Clinton for her experience, intelligence, commitment and long, distinguished record of public service. I had the opportunity to observe -- and occasionally interview -- Barack Obama during his two lackluster terms as a state senator in Illinois. He&#039;s a brilliant, charismatic man with more retail political skills than anyone who&#039;s emerged on the scene in a long time. But I couldn&#039;t cite you any signficant accomplishments he&#039;s made or even begin to tell you what he stands for. He&#039;s latched on to a catchword -- change -- and he embodies that word in his person and his rhetoric. I&#039;d like to know what it means, however. Change from what to what? What specifically is he going to do as president and how is he going to do it? He talks about forging bipartisan coalitions but he&#039;s never done it. He rarely even showed up for significant votes when he served in the Illinois General Assembly. Furthermore, he accumulated some sleazy associations during his time in the sleazy politics of Illinois. Obama is very likable and that&#039;s why he&#039;s surging in the polls. The public also perceived George W. Bush as very likable. I&#039;m not interested in another likable, inexperienced president who&#039;s hiding behind empty catchphrases. Jay, I urge -- URGE -- you to read Gloria Steinem&#039;s op-ed piece in this morning&#039;s New York Times before you talk to Logo. I&#039;ll e-mail it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly support Hillary Clinton for her experience, intelligence, commitment and long, distinguished record of public service. I had the opportunity to observe &#8212; and occasionally interview &#8212; Barack Obama during his two lackluster terms as a state senator in Illinois. He&#8217;s a brilliant, charismatic man with more retail political skills than anyone who&#8217;s emerged on the scene in a long time. But I couldn&#8217;t cite you any signficant accomplishments he&#8217;s made or even begin to tell you what he stands for. He&#8217;s latched on to a catchword &#8212; change &#8212; and he embodies that word in his person and his rhetoric. I&#8217;d like to know what it means, however. Change from what to what? What specifically is he going to do as president and how is he going to do it? He talks about forging bipartisan coalitions but he&#8217;s never done it. He rarely even showed up for significant votes when he served in the Illinois General Assembly. Furthermore, he accumulated some sleazy associations during his time in the sleazy politics of Illinois. Obama is very likable and that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s surging in the polls. The public also perceived George W. Bush as very likable. I&#8217;m not interested in another likable, inexperienced president who&#8217;s hiding behind empty catchphrases. Jay, I urge &#8212; URGE &#8212; you to read Gloria Steinem&#8217;s op-ed piece in this morning&#8217;s New York Times before you talk to Logo. I&#8217;ll e-mail it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sojo</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-3762</link>
		<dc:creator>Sojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have supported Hillary from the beginning and will continue to support her to the end.  She is smart, strong, and qualified to lead our Nation. I have been paying close attention to the polls in NY and Arkansas and they are strongly in support of Hillary. These are areas of this Nation that have watched her more closely than the rest of the Nation. While I don&#039;t deny Obama makes some wonderful points, and has a way of making everyone feel &quot;warm and bubbly&quot;, I can&#039;t forget the fact that he is a Rookie.  He will certainly make a wonderful candidate some day, but not today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have supported Hillary from the beginning and will continue to support her to the end.  She is smart, strong, and qualified to lead our Nation. I have been paying close attention to the polls in NY and Arkansas and they are strongly in support of Hillary. These are areas of this Nation that have watched her more closely than the rest of the Nation. While I don&#8217;t deny Obama makes some wonderful points, and has a way of making everyone feel &#8220;warm and bubbly&#8221;, I can&#8217;t forget the fact that he is a Rookie.  He will certainly make a wonderful candidate some day, but not today.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d support any candidate that isn&#039;t afraid to explain to the voters in Florida why they should vote NO on amending the state constitution.

I&#039;d support any candidate that says a federal judge in Oregon is going too far by not honoring the limited domestic partnership law that was to be effective on January 1.

Any candidate that has enough courage to defend same sex families from the ongoing harm that is being inflicted upon them is worthy of my vote.

If they can&#039;t stand up for me, I can&#039;t - and won&#039;t - stand up for them.

They don&#039;t have to advocate marriage if that scares them somehow...but they do have to act in our defense much more than Kerry/Edwards did in 2004 while 11 states amended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d support any candidate that isn&#8217;t afraid to explain to the voters in Florida why they should vote NO on amending the state constitution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d support any candidate that says a federal judge in Oregon is going too far by not honoring the limited domestic partnership law that was to be effective on January 1.</p>
<p>Any candidate that has enough courage to defend same sex families from the ongoing harm that is being inflicted upon them is worthy of my vote.</p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t stand up for me, I can&#8217;t &#8211; and won&#8217;t &#8211; stand up for them.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have to advocate marriage if that scares them somehow&#8230;but they do have to act in our defense much more than Kerry/Edwards did in 2004 while 11 states amended.</p>
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