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, editor in chief, 365gay.com 08.23.2008 8:40am EDT
News & Politics
I’m at the airport, heading to the DNC. But I thought you might find this useful, from About.com:
Lesbian and Gay Rights – Everything But Marriage:
Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, but has been quoted as saying “I don’t know why we should be frightened of [same-sex marriage].” Although he sees same-sex marriage as a likely inevitability, he has not taken the step of actually supporting it. Instead, he supports a civil unions policy that would grant the same legal rights. He also supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), federal hate crime legislation that includes sexual orientation and gender identity as protected categories, and the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell.”
Obama/Biden would be better overall than McCain, but not by much. I won’t be supporting either as neither support me.. Gay people I can understand voting for Obama; however, don’t give your money to someone who really doesn’t consider you an equal.
I think Mr. Obama made a good choice with Mr. Biden. Mr. Biden has good experience in the Congress, been there since he was 29. He is able to connect with the everyday person. He is one of the poorer Senators, all the other ones are millionares, even though they get about a $100,000 pay check. Mr. Biden also has a striking personal story: He lost his wife & his daughter aswell in a car accident right before he came to Congress. He took out 2nd & 3rd morgageous (Spelling error, please forgive) to put his son thru college. He also suffered a brain anerism during his previoius presidential bid in the 80s.
Mr. Biden is a good choice because he is identifable. He connects with everyday people in a way the Mr. Obama cannot, which is very important. Choosing Mr. Biden will help win over some purple & blue states.
& i believe that Mr. Biden does not outright support gay marriage because it would be harmful to his chances of winning over some states who oppose gay marriage. By not outright supporting it,but support the ENDA, he is most likely biding time till the country is more supportive of gay marriage. Sort of like watering & tending to a plant, waiting for it to bloom. If he jumps too early, gay marriage might not pass.By waiting, he is increasing the chances of it passing.
Obama doesn’t care about gay rights, he may talk a good game but when it comes down to it he hires homophobes to work on his value voters. two faced and unreliable..that’s the true Obama,,,enjoy Mcain for 4 years
Well, p.j., I’m one of the many Obama supporters who didn’t want Hillary or, especially, her sleazy husband anywhere near the Democratic ticket. She ran an incompetent campaign and destroyed her chances at the nomination by refusing to repudiate her Iraq War vote. Quit your whining and get over it.
“Employment should be at will for both the employer or the employee. You do a job and do it well there should be no issues.”
While I agree with you on this point the problem arises when you realize that this is an ideal situation, and often not a reality. You yourself have faced this kind of discrimination, and while I applaud that you now have a solid career under your belt, you shouldn’t be forced from a job for reasons not relating to do with your work.
Personally, I don’t believe in protections of any class for employment. Employment should be at will for both the employer or the employee. You do a job and do it well there should be no issues.
… and by the way, I have been fired for being gay. I was devastated at the time but it allowed me to go into the profession that I’m now in and build a career. Things happen for a reason.
There’s more to equality than just marriage. I’m not in a relationship right now, so while I fight for marriage equality, it doesn’t mean bug squat if I can still get fired from my job, or kicked out of my house.
And if we’re only supporting candidates that support marriage equality, then why didn’t Gravel or Kucinich (who I actually did support) do better?
Trace: he’d probably do better than McCain
I’d like to see Obama give a speech before the HRC and explain how marriage is between a man and a woman.
I’m wondering how the HRC would react?
So now we have a choice between McPain (never) and Obama/Biden. Of course I will go with Obama, but not with the same gusto as if he had picked Clinton. She would have symbolozed real change, have united the party and fought hard for our issues. Biden dodn’t even bother to show up for the HRC debate.
Obama said he’s for change…but then he does something boneheaded like this. Change is not what he’s after. He’s out for himself, just like most other candidates. No real original thoughts, just ones that have been picked piece-meal from candidates over the last 20 years. Yeah, that’s what this country needs.
30% of Obama supporters thought he should chose Clinton, compared to less then 10% for all other candidates… and apparently he didnt give her much consideration. Is he willing to listen to his supporters…or is he just taking them for granted?
It is shame that we have to vote for half a loaf.
Awesome!
Everything But Equality.
Yup, that’s change!
You can only be against it or for it.. So what is he?