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	<title>Comments on: Vanasco: Gay marriage endangered in New York</title>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda hard to bring change when he isn&#039;t in office yet...kinda happens in January...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda hard to bring change when he isn&#8217;t in office yet&#8230;kinda happens in January&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stan in Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some thoughts that my help you in your fight for equality in marriage.

Marriage is not a religious instituion. How many couples get married at city hall or by a justice of the peace (with a state issued licence) and their marriage is recognized by the state? In many European countries the only marriage ceremony that is recognized is the civil one. You can be married in a church if you want but it has no legal status.

It is also not just to have children. If that were the case then straight couples who can’t have children or decide not have children would have to have their marriages annulled.

Marriage is a way for a couple to publicly pronounce their love for and committment to each other.

Here is how your country appears to an outsider on this matter. You proudly proclaim that there is separation of church and state. I find the only difference between you and extremist Muslim countries is that they admit that religion is used in determining their laws.

One of your most “sacred” documents states that all men are created equal and you espouse your democracy as the greatest in the world. Yet for people who are not white males to get equal treatment and rights it has taken protests, legislation and court challenges to get these rights. Remember when women were not considered to be “persons” and therefore were not permitted to vote.

Yes, it took a long time to get gay marriage in Canada. The government finally recognized that this type of discrimination was wrong according to our “Charter of Rights and Freedoms”. And guess what, there were American religious groups who were sending money to Canadian groups to fight this battle towards equality. I can imagine the outrage that would occur if a foreign country were to send funds to yours to fight an issue. (Just because you are a world power does not make you boss of the world.) Charlton Heston even had the nerve to come up here and try and get us to change OUR constitution to include the right to bear arms.

But I digress.

To me the bottom line is this. Either you Americans believe in your constitution or you don’t. (Remember, separation of church and state?) If you do not want to grant the same rights to every citizen then they should receive a discount on their income taxes because they are considered second class citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some thoughts that my help you in your fight for equality in marriage.</p>
<p>Marriage is not a religious instituion. How many couples get married at city hall or by a justice of the peace (with a state issued licence) and their marriage is recognized by the state? In many European countries the only marriage ceremony that is recognized is the civil one. You can be married in a church if you want but it has no legal status.</p>
<p>It is also not just to have children. If that were the case then straight couples who can’t have children or decide not have children would have to have their marriages annulled.</p>
<p>Marriage is a way for a couple to publicly pronounce their love for and committment to each other.</p>
<p>Here is how your country appears to an outsider on this matter. You proudly proclaim that there is separation of church and state. I find the only difference between you and extremist Muslim countries is that they admit that religion is used in determining their laws.</p>
<p>One of your most “sacred” documents states that all men are created equal and you espouse your democracy as the greatest in the world. Yet for people who are not white males to get equal treatment and rights it has taken protests, legislation and court challenges to get these rights. Remember when women were not considered to be “persons” and therefore were not permitted to vote.</p>
<p>Yes, it took a long time to get gay marriage in Canada. The government finally recognized that this type of discrimination was wrong according to our “Charter of Rights and Freedoms”. And guess what, there were American religious groups who were sending money to Canadian groups to fight this battle towards equality. I can imagine the outrage that would occur if a foreign country were to send funds to yours to fight an issue. (Just because you are a world power does not make you boss of the world.) Charlton Heston even had the nerve to come up here and try and get us to change OUR constitution to include the right to bear arms.</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
<p>To me the bottom line is this. Either you Americans believe in your constitution or you don’t. (Remember, separation of church and state?) If you do not want to grant the same rights to every citizen then they should receive a discount on their income taxes because they are considered second class citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will NEVER be ashamed of who I am because of the acts of friends/families or strangers. And i feel sorry for you Zeta that you can so easily self-hate yourself.

Race/Education and Religion will always circle us back to this point. Pleae spare us all the outrage for the Black community of CA.  The fact that &quot;racial minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#039;ve exprienced, can be so bigoted my be very dihearting...if you have no concept of human emotion, nature and history but those of us that do, understand that the oppressed opress the oppressed.  Of course no gays, sexual minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#039;ve experienced has any bigoted acts of oppression. 

But again, no solutions but plenty more blame and ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will NEVER be ashamed of who I am because of the acts of friends/families or strangers. And i feel sorry for you Zeta that you can so easily self-hate yourself.</p>
<p>Race/Education and Religion will always circle us back to this point. Pleae spare us all the outrage for the Black community of CA.  The fact that &#8220;racial minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#8217;ve exprienced, can be so bigoted my be very dihearting&#8230;if you have no concept of human emotion, nature and history but those of us that do, understand that the oppressed opress the oppressed.  Of course no gays, sexual minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#8217;ve experienced has any bigoted acts of oppression. </p>
<p>But again, no solutions but plenty more blame and ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Priori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard Priori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, race and religion once again prove to be impediments to equal civil rights. For dogmatic xians, that&#039;s just par for the course--I expect nothing better from them. That racial minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#039;ve experienced, can be so bigoted is very disheartening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, race and religion once again prove to be impediments to equal civil rights. For dogmatic xians, that&#8217;s just par for the course&#8211;I expect nothing better from them. That racial minorities, who have every opportunity to know better given the history of oppression they&#8217;ve experienced, can be so bigoted is very disheartening.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No minority has ever obtained any right by an act of any legislature.  Every time a right has been recognized, it was done by a judge.  Even the &quot;civil rights act&quot; of 1964 only codified judicial decisions that had already been made.  Gay rights will happen the same way.  Some legislative acts will be helpful along the way, of course.  But laws don&#039;t grant rights.  Constitutions grant rights, and constitutions are interpreted by judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No minority has ever obtained any right by an act of any legislature.  Every time a right has been recognized, it was done by a judge.  Even the &#8220;civil rights act&#8221; of 1964 only codified judicial decisions that had already been made.  Gay rights will happen the same way.  Some legislative acts will be helpful along the way, of course.  But laws don&#8217;t grant rights.  Constitutions grant rights, and constitutions are interpreted by judges.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me ashamed to be a latino.  Fuck the rest of &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me ashamed to be a latino.  Fuck the rest of &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMPORTANT - Please sign the petition at http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com to strip the Mormon Church of its tax-exempt status.
Please help spreading the word.
Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMPORTANT &#8211; Please sign the petition at <a href="http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com</a> to strip the Mormon Church of its tax-exempt status.<br />
Please help spreading the word.<br />
Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Cahill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather smug that Latino community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather smug that Latino community.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! That&#039;s pure bullsh*t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! That&#8217;s pure bullsh*t</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s time get our Pride Parades back to their roots - Pride Marches. Not a time to party, but a time for action. Not a time to celebrate, but a time to once again become activists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time get our Pride Parades back to their roots &#8211; Pride Marches. Not a time to party, but a time for action. Not a time to celebrate, but a time to once again become activists.</p>
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