Comments on: Vanasco: Blame religion, not race

By: Daniel O'Sullivan III

Daniel O'Sullivan III — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:14:10 +0000

So blah blah blah,,, so where were the things that CAN be done? Where were the hyperlinks that we could use to cause some kind of effect
odannyoh@hotmail.com

By: Chris Sullivan

Chris Sullivan — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:04:54 +0000

Larry – if you want to believe your ridiculous mythology books (and have proven to be a self-loathing homosexual from your posts) that is your sad choice. YOU are exactly teh kind of gay man that is counter-productive to the proper advancement of GLBT rites. You’d be doing us all a favor back in the closet.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:57:44 +0000

Larry’s greatest ambition is to be a Kapo in the concentration camp where his co-religionists would intern if not exterminate those of his kind.

Larry, you’re a diseased animal.

By: Mercedes

Mercedes — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:46:14 +0000

Brian, what you allege is simply not true. Corretta Scott King recognized Gay people who marched and worked for equal rights for black people when they had little chance for a voice for their own rights. Enough said.

By: TANK

TANK — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:47:58 +0000

Larry, it’s obvious that you hate yourself. I can see why. There is lying, cheating, debauchery of babylonian scale in the hetero “community,” yet somehow it’s all too different when applied to the gay community. Please, take your religion and twisted self hatred elsewhere. You’re boring and have no place speaking on behalf of anyone but yourself.

By: Larry

Larry — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:51:23 +0000

Sli…quite to the contrary regarding the Bible….it DOES say things about homosexuality…in MANY places, in the HEBREW, GREEK, LATIN, ARAMAIC and ANY other langauge…so I suggest you make further investigation into those things….i.e…both the OLD and NEW Testaments…AND if you want to know where those passages of scripture are…I would be more than happy to point them out….but, in saying that we are to LOVE one another, that is VERY true….so read the Apostle Paul’s DEFINITION of Love…and when applied to the the Gay Community at large, it is a HUGE indictment….Aristotle also CONDEMNED gays for lying together in LUST…so it is NOT confined to Christianity…and MANY other religions are the same…it is NOT the WHAT that is the problem….it is the WHY!!!

By: Larry

Larry — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:43:46 +0000

I neglected to mention that it is not RELIGION either….

By: Larry

Larry — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:37:26 +0000

ok….personally, as a gay man, I don’t believe that gays should be allowed the “privilege” of marriage. The vast majority of gay men are socially and morally irresponsible, equating “sex” with a “handshake” wanting Americans to say that debauchery is an acceptable lifestyle, when, in fact, nothing could be further from the truth. I have seen, firsthand, the lies, cheating, and debauchery that GAYS want to be considered “acceptable” and recognized as legitimate. It would be an outrage if America turned a blind eye to the inherently unacceptable nature of gay men and women and said “OK”. I don’t think gays will EVER get the message, because they want to believe that this “lifestyle” is OK – to alleviate and vindicate their ego’s and their guilt-ridden conscious’s. Gays should NOT be allowed that right UNTIL they learn to be more MORALLY and SOCIALLY responsible, which won’t be for a long, long time I’m afraid…and that TRUTH IS…that this has nothing to do with GENDER or RACE…it has to do with what the “heteros” see of the gay community…and the vast amount of drama, debauchery, lies, cheating, and inherently socially unacceptable behavior of the gay community at larger….WAKE UP….if you want “social” acceptance…then be “socially” responsible!

By: Morgan

Morgan — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:24:35 +0000

Then Eddie, explain to we why our church is very racially diverse and why we whites would come and be an active part of a funeral service for a black woman from Liberia whom we all loved, such a sweet and kind person that lady was who did so much for her native country and so much for our church. She did so much for her native country that the ambassador of Liberia (a black man) came to speak at her funeral and so did someone from her international women’s group in Liberia.

If our church is so racist, then why is our interum rector (white) married to a black man and why did she preach in Africa and work to help the people of the area where she preach…then why do mostly liberal white families with kids attend there? Why do white gays who abhor racist things attend service there? Why would our straight preachers who are in open opposition to discrimination of any type including antigay preach there? Why would a liberal gay organist be organist there for 25 years? Why a partnered gay preacher who has zero tolerance for any discrimination preach there often? Why would a very dear partnered gay friend of mine who works in a scientific facility and who does not put up with nonsense be at the very top of the vestry?

Sorry, in the case of our church that does many good deeds for the least of our society for the homeless and the needy, for the hungry, I think your words do not add up. Your experience is so vastly removed from mine. Maybe the fact that we are in the Maryland suburbs of DC helps a lot. No openly racist institution would survive for long in our area, and my church has been in existence for a bit over 50 years and a black woman and her black husband have been attending at our church for at least 38 of those years. To call the church I attend racist when we have Cambodians, Thais, Africans, Jamaicans, Latinos, Greek, Serbian, English, Gay Americans, Welsh and Gaelic speakers, liberal middle class White families with kids, etc, to call our extremely diverse church racist is to call an apple an orange! Doesn’t add up and is a very mistaken notion.

By: Ramsey

Ramsey — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:32:37 +0000

I wrote a rather long, researched piece on this topic back in November:

http://socialdysfunction.ramseyisler.com/2008/11/09/blacks-hate-gay-people-maybe-maybe-not-facts-and-figures/

Essentially, if you look at a number of factors (including poll data on gay marriage bills from all states), you’ll find data that suggests Blacks aren’t much different than Whites or Latinos on this topic overall. Is that disappointing? Should black people be more sensitive to the issue of gay rights? Probably. But the belief that blacks overall are really much different on the issue just doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. The county vote and poll data alone suggests that usually votes are similar across all demos in the region (California and Florida being remarkable exceptions in polls, but iffy in county vote data).

Little known fact: South Africa, a nation that is 80% black, and 80% Christian, and with a history of civil rights struggles, is one of the six nations in the world with legalized national gay marriage.