Ruby-Sachs: What the Warren Appointment Will Cost
Barack Obama’s campaign was the most technologically savvy ever run. Part of that technological capacity was passed on to the transition team in the form of a blog and comment page on Change.gov, the website headquarters for Obama during these next few weeks.
The question the transition team asked this week of commenters on the site was, “What social causes and service organizations are you a part of that make a difference in your community?” The answer they got has everything to do with Rick Warren.
Here are some of the responses that give me hope:
“I have read Dreams From My Father several times, finding it personally inspirational and stimulating to my personal growth. Barack in his biography is remarkable in is objective ability to learn from personal mistakes. The time in elementary school when he slighted a classmate, the time when he experimented with drugs, the hard lessons learned from a failed community event in Chicago’s South Side…..
So I have every confidence that Barack will also learn from the mistake of inviting Rick Warren to give the invocation. As an old community organizer he should recognize that he has prematurely set up a culminating event of reconciliation without laying the required groundwork and without doing the necessary healing first, and without clearly stating the limits of religion, especially conservative evangelical religion, in government, and realizing the intense pain this would cause many of his supporters who have been subject to homophobic hate and after the abuses of the last eight years under Bush. This will go into his next book as an embarrassment that became a stepping stone for his personal growth as he learns to be a fine president. The time for Rick Warren might have been his second inauguration after there was an actual reconciliation to celebrate”
From Crystal_Eyes
“I am a straight married woman with three kids who voted for Barack and I think his choice of a pastor to speak at the inauguration is innappropriate as well. He should have chosen someone who was more ecuminical and open to all walks of life. In this most important event we need everyone to feel welcome and that will leave some Americans feeling left out, Please understand this Barack…”
From chala
“I am so very saddened by the choice of Rick Warren to deliver the inaugural invocation. I cannot fathom your insensitivity on this matter. I have been such a strong supporter of you and for you to disrespect gays and lesbians in the way you have is a slap in the face to all those supporting human rights. My wife was disabled and very active in the disability right movement yet she believed that to oppression of one group is the oppression of all. I fear that this is a continuation of all our oppression
Would you have chosen someone that advocates segregation to deliver the invocation, or someone the denies the holocaust, or someone who strongly advocates the cloistering of all people with disabilities? Yet you have someone like Rick Warren with his open and strong anti gay views to deliver the opening remarks at your inauguration.
I am shocked and saddened Mr. Obama. I hopped for so much more from you.
Carl Doering”
From Carl Doering
“I am trained as a Christian feminist theologian though I now teach on global religion and politics. As a progressive Christian. I believe that the ‘revolution’ in the evangelical community has broken away from the Falwell-Robertson-Dobson obsession w/ sexual morality towards a more diverse agenda (environment, poverty, AIDs – only in Africa, of course, interfaith dialogue).
If Obama wanted an evangelical to make his point, why not Jim Wallis? If he really had to have Warren for some Machiavellian reason, then why not the benediction. Why the lead singer?
Why put Rev. Lowrey at the back of the inaugural bus?
But why two Christians at all? The Democratic Convention’s invocations were more diverse than Obama’s Inauguration.
Obama has lost my respect on this one.”
From K Poethig
But these are not the only voices heard.
“As Californians we expressed our voices at the polls Novomer 4th. Prop 8 won by a margin of 600,000 votes: 7,001,084 to 6,401,483. To provide some context for this vote:
Prop. 8 received 2,150,000 MORE votes than did Arnold Schwarzenegger when he was reelected in 2006
Prop. 8 received nearly 2 million MORE votes than Dianne Feinstein did when she was reelected to the US Senate in 2006
Prop. 8 received 250,000 MORE votes than did John Kerry when he carried California in 2004
Prop. 8 received 45,000 MORE votes than did Barbara Boxer in her landslide reelection to the U.S. Senate in 2004
Prop. 8 passed with approximately the same percentage of the vote that Barack Obama received nationally.
So I wholeheartedly agree with President- elects decision to include Pastor Warren, a man who represents a large portion of our country.
Thank You President-elect Obama for not excluding those of us who have socially conservative values!”
From netbrown
“I wanted to say, I didn’t vote for Obama but he has pleasantly surprised me from day one. I do believe that the abortion questions does begin with how do we reduced them. I’ve never thought it could be effectly advocated through laws, it is a problem of the heart. I know because I’ve changed from pro choice to pro life. I think picking Rick Warren for invocation was brilliant I saw the civil debate and he is a good and honest man who sincerely wants there to be conversations about those things we disagree. I think what I see is Obama being true to his soul. It’s a good thing…don’t sell your soul for anything. I feel President Obama is my president.”
From Teresa K
There are over four thousand comments on the site and a good 90% relate to Warren. What this shows is not that the country as a whole supports or opposes LGBT rights. IT does show, however, that Obama’s inauguration will be a divisive event, and event many of us will not be able to celebrate. That is the real loss this decision will cause.



It is SO pissing me off is they shut down the comments on the Obama website. So I wrote to my Democratic state senators, the Dem. party and 4 newspapers! I encourage you all to do the same!
As someone who supprted his candidacy with my vote and money – I have but one thing to say to Obama: F@CK YOU!
We deserve our rights. Opinions of obamas, rick warens, etc are completely irrelevant. Slowly but surely in our society the accusation of homophobia will be as horrible as that of racism leaving no room for excuses. The more we unequivocally condemn all signs of homophobia (that includes all those who don’t like gay marriage), the sooner this time will arrive. Jewish community should give us a perfect example of how to fight for our rights.
“Christian feminist theologian”
Hilarious, hilarious, hilarious.
That is going in the top ten funniest oxymorons I have ever heard.
Oh yeah, Barack is a worthless bitch. I’ve known that for several months now.
I lost interest in Obama as soon as he began to court “the Center”. In America, the Center is rather to the Right of Center as it is understood in other parts of the civilized world, and the Democrats are not really people of the Left. Let’s not forget that they are committed capitalists, before they are anything else. If Obama does some positive things for the people, I shall be pleased. If not, I won’t complain, because I am not expecting anything. I am not given to “hope” in the political arena, especially when politics is wedded to money.
I’d like to echo the feelings of rejection shared by others at the selection of Warren to, in a sense, open the inauguration. I was aware of Obamas’ opinion of gay “americans”, and truth-be-told, that’s been good enough for me. But this is a slap in the face. My only option(unless something occurs before the inaugration) is to wish him well and opt out; I know how to do that. Philip C
I feel that Obama has slapped the gay and lesbian community, many of which support Obama like I did. I feel betrayed by Barak Obama.
I find this fascinating. This reaction by some gays is borderline schizophrenic. We all knew Obama is a church goer that doesn’t support gay marriage. He said so in Rick Warren’s church. He said so many times on the campaign trail. We knew this and we voted for him anyway.
He’s following through on what he said he believed, so what’s the beef?
I meant we should honk our horns in our own neighborhoods across the country. The sound would be deafening here in San Francisco!
Obama’s choice of Warren to have the religious talking-stick at the inaugural doesn’t auger well for Obama’s positions on many of the other rights that the Bush Crime Family wrested from the people of this nation.
I don’t think horn honking will work because I seriously doubt any non-official cars will be anywhere near Rick Warren at the inauguration. More viable might be:
(1) noise-making during his invocation through other means
(2) unmistakable visual symbols — e.g., unfurled and/or hoisted flags and banners (will have to pass security muster, though).
It may seem rude to treat a “man of the cloth” that way. However, his palette of profoundly offensive statements and views more than earns that treatment. Fred Phelps is a man of the cloth, too, and not that far ideologically from Rick Warren. Both are despicable men.
I am still in shock about all this. I hope to protest in any/every peaceful and legal way I can.
Obama picked a bad time to pull a stunt like this, fresh off of Prop. 8. Millions of people are mad as hell right now.
We can’t sit back and let this Warren debacle pass without being heard. Most of my straight friends haven’t a clue as to the outrage this has caused in the gay community. Expressing our outrage through petitions and blogs just doesn’t seem to cut it.
On January 20th, I propose that we get into our cars and start honking the horns the minute “reverend” Warren ascends to the podium. Not “honk-honk-honk”, but one continuous annoying HONK that symbolically shouts down the “reverend” and possibly distracts our neighbors from his speech. The blaring horns should stop the second he leaves the stage.
I trusted Barack Obama until 48 hours ago. Now, I don’t and he’s got to prove his commitment to equal rights for glbt people by producing concrete results.
That’s what the Warren fiasco means to me.
I think its pathetic that Change.gov keeps having to suspend blog posts in fear of having the site fill up with anti Warren and Obama remarks. What are they afraid of?
Let’s try this again. Civil rights are not a popularity contest.
Up until WW2, anti-Semitism was very widespread in the US. During the war, the US press had very little coverage of the true nature of German anti-Semitism. Then, after D-Day, as Allied forces moved deeper into Germany, they began finding the camps. Remember there were even color newsreels of the camps being liberated–there was no TV, there was no internet, so consider not only the visual impact, but the rawness of color pictures of people being starved to death, or bulldozers pushing bodies into mass graves to prevent further spread of typhus and cholera (to name but two diseases). After this, US support for Israel has rarely ebbed, even when the support was extended to people with questionable motives. Both the US and the UK took this lesson to heart; current policy is essentially a mea culpa gesture for a failure to act.
And this has what to do with the here and now? Most Americans were OK with saying that they didn’t like Jews, that it was OK to treat Jews differently. Then the consequence of this attitude was thrown directly at the American people. Not only did Americans make a rapid change in attitude, but it hasn’t wavered in the 60-odd years since WW2. So as a gay American, I’d like to know why I’m expected to be happy with incrementalism and second-class citizenship, when we’ve had too many historic lessons of why this is rarely a wise idea, and often a very bloody and gory one?