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	<title>Comments on: Ruby-Sachs: Rosie and Kelli Split!</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Hay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Hay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when people like Rosie and Kelly and like Ellen and her Prop 8 bride get married for political reasons.

Weren&#039;t they aware of the marriage and divorce law realities? Maybe, they were simply focused on being political pawns. 

Like how could Sean Penn accept that &quot;best male actor&quot; ward, after seeing Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when people like Rosie and Kelly and like Ellen and her Prop 8 bride get married for political reasons.</p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t they aware of the marriage and divorce law realities? Maybe, they were simply focused on being political pawns. </p>
<p>Like how could Sean Penn accept that &#8220;best male actor&#8221; ward, after seeing Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler.</p>
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		<title>By: panda</title>
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		<dc:creator>panda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if gay marriage isn&#039;t recognized where you live, then there&#039;s no need for a divorce since you&#039;re _not legally married -- even if the marriage was legal _where it was performed.  

the real issue has to do with dividing up property and custody.  which in the case of a rich person like Rosie, becomes important for her now ex-spouse.  though i suspect Rosie will be generous, it might not be the same as it would if she had to stick to the letter of the (divorce) law.  it&#039;s up to Rosie&#039;s generosity and conscience.  but i&#039;d like to believe she&#039;ll do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if gay marriage isn&#8217;t recognized where you live, then there&#8217;s no need for a divorce since you&#8217;re _not legally married &#8212; even if the marriage was legal _where it was performed.  </p>
<p>the real issue has to do with dividing up property and custody.  which in the case of a rich person like Rosie, becomes important for her now ex-spouse.  though i suspect Rosie will be generous, it might not be the same as it would if she had to stick to the letter of the (divorce) law.  it&#8217;s up to Rosie&#8217;s generosity and conscience.  but i&#8217;d like to believe she&#8217;ll do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Bellum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara Bellum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know Emma, but I feel quite confident asserting that she knows where Toronto is. I also don&#039;t believe that she was, or intended to be, engaging in gossip. Very few people realize what denying marriages denies people, and even fewer realize what denying divorces denies people. To me, this does seem like a good time to discuss these issues. For one, having never sought a divorce, I did not realize that even those who traveled to marry could not behave similarly to get divorced.

There was a horror story on CNN recently about a man who got arrested after he went to Japan to try to kidnap his own children because his ex-wife moved back there where local laws did not recognize any parental rights for him. Not many straight people realize this situation can be a legitimate fear for LGBT parents without any border crossings even being required. And I&#039;m ignoring the people who simply wouldn&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know Emma, but I feel quite confident asserting that she knows where Toronto is. I also don&#8217;t believe that she was, or intended to be, engaging in gossip. Very few people realize what denying marriages denies people, and even fewer realize what denying divorces denies people. To me, this does seem like a good time to discuss these issues. For one, having never sought a divorce, I did not realize that even those who traveled to marry could not behave similarly to get divorced.</p>
<p>There was a horror story on CNN recently about a man who got arrested after he went to Japan to try to kidnap his own children because his ex-wife moved back there where local laws did not recognize any parental rights for him. Not many straight people realize this situation can be a legitimate fear for LGBT parents without any border crossings even being required. And I&#8217;m ignoring the people who simply wouldn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Equality Murrieta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Equality Murrieta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people really arguiing with each other over a sentence? Get over yourselves!

The matter you should be discussing is the fact that this country doesn&#039;t allow us to be protected by the law!!!!! 

Put your adult hats on and realize that petty bickering about Toronto&#039;s being a state or a province doesn&#039;t freaking matter.

I&#039;d love for you to research the email address and contact information of your local congressman/woman, and I&#039;d also love for you to research the phone number to their office so that you can call them everyday and demand that they stand up for our community... ya know, something useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people really arguiing with each other over a sentence? Get over yourselves!</p>
<p>The matter you should be discussing is the fact that this country doesn&#8217;t allow us to be protected by the law!!!!! </p>
<p>Put your adult hats on and realize that petty bickering about Toronto&#8217;s being a state or a province doesn&#8217;t freaking matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love for you to research the email address and contact information of your local congressman/woman, and I&#8217;d also love for you to research the phone number to their office so that you can call them everyday and demand that they stand up for our community&#8230; ya know, something useful.</p>
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		<title>By: unclestan</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclestan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Ms Ruby-Sachs, why are so many Americans ignorant about other countries. As Drewski said, Toronto is not a state. It is a city, in a province (not a state) in a country called Canada.  Why are so many Americans so cavalier about how they deal with other countries?  Would it hurt you to do a little research before you publish an article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Ms Ruby-Sachs, why are so many Americans ignorant about other countries. As Drewski said, Toronto is not a state. It is a city, in a province (not a state) in a country called Canada.  Why are so many Americans so cavalier about how they deal with other countries?  Would it hurt you to do a little research before you publish an article?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Kahler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Kahler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be that the pressure on this couple was too much for anyone to bear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be that the pressure on this couple was too much for anyone to bear?</p>
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		<title>By: hot501s</title>
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		<dc:creator>hot501s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Toronto, like many U.S. states,
&gt; has this residency requirement.

Actually, &quot;Toronto&quot; has nothing to do with it. It&#039;s the province of Ontario that deals with divorce law, not the municipality.

H5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Toronto, like many U.S. states,<br />
&gt; has this residency requirement.</p>
<p>Actually, &#8220;Toronto&#8221; has nothing to do with it. It&#8217;s the province of Ontario that deals with divorce law, not the municipality.</p>
<p>H5</p>
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		<title>By: Amarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont mean to be picky...but, I don&#039;t think she ever suggested Toronto was a state.  Yes, it may have been a poorly constructed sentence that made you think she was calling Toronto a state, but what I think she was saying was that Toronto, like many U.S. states, has this residency requirement.  At first read, I thought the sentence seemed wonky, but a second glance helped me to figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont mean to be picky&#8230;but, I don&#8217;t think she ever suggested Toronto was a state.  Yes, it may have been a poorly constructed sentence that made you think she was calling Toronto a state, but what I think she was saying was that Toronto, like many U.S. states, has this residency requirement.  At first read, I thought the sentence seemed wonky, but a second glance helped me to figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor correction.  Toronto isn&#039;t a state.  Ontario is a province.  Far as I know,  Canadian provinces and territories have 1-year residency requirement for divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor correction.  Toronto isn&#8217;t a state.  Ontario is a province.  Far as I know,  Canadian provinces and territories have 1-year residency requirement for divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Howard Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Howard Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: This is hardly &quot;gossip,&quot; as it has been publicly reported and verified.  It&#039;s one thing to talk about other people&#039;s problems in order to glean some sort of better-than-they pleasure from the act of gossiping; what Emma is doing is using the (sad) news of a famous couple&#039;s difficulties to highlight the difficulties we all face.  That&#039;s not schadenfreude by a long shot, and it&#039;s certainly an eloquent and necessary illustration of the importance of gay divorce rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: This is hardly &#8220;gossip,&#8221; as it has been publicly reported and verified.  It&#8217;s one thing to talk about other people&#8217;s problems in order to glean some sort of better-than-they pleasure from the act of gossiping; what Emma is doing is using the (sad) news of a famous couple&#8217;s difficulties to highlight the difficulties we all face.  That&#8217;s not schadenfreude by a long shot, and it&#8217;s certainly an eloquent and necessary illustration of the importance of gay divorce rights.</p>
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