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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>way to eggagerate. Sounds like you need to see more movies before you call this one &quot;the most&quot;. Start with The Celluloid Closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>way to eggagerate. Sounds like you need to see more movies before you call this one &#8220;the most&#8221;. Start with The Celluloid Closet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To plasmatic5,

That&#039;s great if antigay insults don&#039;t bother you, but they do bother a lot of other people. Each year, NGLTF conducts a study that documents the harmful effects of harassment on LGBT high school students. In 2007, researchers at the University of Illinois found that people who were frequently exposed to antigay harassment were more likely to experience depression, anxiety, and a long list of other symptoms - and it wasn&#039;t just gay people who were interviewed. The American Psychological Association has issued a statement saying, in part, that antigay harassment may be responsible for the high rate of suicide among gay and lesbian youth.

The fact that the movie also demeaned black people doesn&#039;t excuse its doing the same thing to gay people. It was wrong to demean either group. And Sandy is right - insulting anyone by calling them gay implies that it&#039;s bad to be gay.

As to the suggestion that we should participate in harassment of our own group, that one is so far afield that I&#039;m not immediately sure how to respond. Isn&#039;t it obvious that more harassment means people will be more upset by it, not less upset? I know that&#039;s true of me. If someone puts down gay people, tell them to knock it off. Explain that it&#039;s like calling people the n-word, except that a different group is being targeted. Tell them there is evidence that harassment is responsible for high suicide rates among LGBT youth. A lot of harassers don&#039;t understand the seriousness of what they are doing. Once they find out, most will listen to reason.

Finally, I suggest we complain, respectfully, to the studio that produced this movie - and don&#039;t see the movie. Depending on their response, maybe we should also boycott the studio. We could also write to the central management of the theater chains that show the movie. 

I didn&#039;t realize that Paul Rudd co-wrote this movie, and I&#039;d like to know if he also co-wrote the racist and antigay insults. I&#039;d also like to know where Seann William Scott is with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To plasmatic5,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great if antigay insults don&#8217;t bother you, but they do bother a lot of other people. Each year, NGLTF conducts a study that documents the harmful effects of harassment on LGBT high school students. In 2007, researchers at the University of Illinois found that people who were frequently exposed to antigay harassment were more likely to experience depression, anxiety, and a long list of other symptoms &#8211; and it wasn&#8217;t just gay people who were interviewed. The American Psychological Association has issued a statement saying, in part, that antigay harassment may be responsible for the high rate of suicide among gay and lesbian youth.</p>
<p>The fact that the movie also demeaned black people doesn&#8217;t excuse its doing the same thing to gay people. It was wrong to demean either group. And Sandy is right &#8211; insulting anyone by calling them gay implies that it&#8217;s bad to be gay.</p>
<p>As to the suggestion that we should participate in harassment of our own group, that one is so far afield that I&#8217;m not immediately sure how to respond. Isn&#8217;t it obvious that more harassment means people will be more upset by it, not less upset? I know that&#8217;s true of me. If someone puts down gay people, tell them to knock it off. Explain that it&#8217;s like calling people the n-word, except that a different group is being targeted. Tell them there is evidence that harassment is responsible for high suicide rates among LGBT youth. A lot of harassers don&#8217;t understand the seriousness of what they are doing. Once they find out, most will listen to reason.</p>
<p>Finally, I suggest we complain, respectfully, to the studio that produced this movie &#8211; and don&#8217;t see the movie. Depending on their response, maybe we should also boycott the studio. We could also write to the central management of the theater chains that show the movie. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize that Paul Rudd co-wrote this movie, and I&#8217;d like to know if he also co-wrote the racist and antigay insults. I&#8217;d also like to know where Seann William Scott is with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO Plastmatic5:  There is a big difference between calling someone a Cunt and calling someone Gay.  One is a body part and one is a person.  Saying it applies to everyone and thus isn&#039;t about a minority is pretty ignorant since the whole POINT of the put down is that you are saying that they are like a gay person.  So being a gay person is SO bad that thats a put down.  Wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO Plastmatic5:  There is a big difference between calling someone a Cunt and calling someone Gay.  One is a body part and one is a person.  Saying it applies to everyone and thus isn&#8217;t about a minority is pretty ignorant since the whole POINT of the put down is that you are saying that they are like a gay person.  So being a gay person is SO bad that thats a put down.  Wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this movie and felt uncomfortable during it but felt maybe I was being too sensitive so I didn&#039;t say anything and I stayed for the entire film.  After the movie the first thing my straight friend said to me was... WOW that was pretty homophobic.  The next day at work when I asked if anyone had seen it, without prompting they were like yea it was kinda &quot;eh&quot; and really homophobic. 

I understand what Bruce is saying... but how are you suppose to &quot;educate&quot; a movie... really the only way is by not buying a ticket.  It was really hard for me to sit there and listen to all these idiots in the audience erupt with laughter just because the characters said they word GAY.  Half the time the things being said weren&#039;t even funny unless you are homophobic and thats what bothered me.  They were cheap jokes.  Also they served absolutely no purpose in the film. You could have cut them out and it wouldn&#039;t have effected the movie at all.  

I used to REALLY love Paul Rudd but after i found out that he co-wrote this I&#039;m very bothered and I really wonder if I&#039;ll ever see another movie he is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this movie and felt uncomfortable during it but felt maybe I was being too sensitive so I didn&#8217;t say anything and I stayed for the entire film.  After the movie the first thing my straight friend said to me was&#8230; WOW that was pretty homophobic.  The next day at work when I asked if anyone had seen it, without prompting they were like yea it was kinda &#8220;eh&#8221; and really homophobic. </p>
<p>I understand what Bruce is saying&#8230; but how are you suppose to &#8220;educate&#8221; a movie&#8230; really the only way is by not buying a ticket.  It was really hard for me to sit there and listen to all these idiots in the audience erupt with laughter just because the characters said they word GAY.  Half the time the things being said weren&#8217;t even funny unless you are homophobic and thats what bothered me.  They were cheap jokes.  Also they served absolutely no purpose in the film. You could have cut them out and it wouldn&#8217;t have effected the movie at all.  </p>
<p>I used to REALLY love Paul Rudd but after i found out that he co-wrote this I&#8217;m very bothered and I really wonder if I&#8217;ll ever see another movie he is in.</p>
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		<title>By: plasmatic5</title>
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		<dc:creator>plasmatic5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok...um...I just saw the movie.  And all i can say is...it was hilarious. The writing was pretty good.  The acting good.  I liked the plot and the humor and the fact that they didn&#039;t give a damn about being politically correct.  

Yeah, they made some gay jokes.  Sure, they used the word &quot;fagot&quot; a few times and made jokes a few times.  But, it&#039;s all in good fun.  They don&#039;t mean anything by using the word &quot;fagot&quot;.  Yes, the characters might have used it offensively, but guess what?  It&#039;s now an offensive word that applies to everyone, not just gay men.  It&#039;s like the word &quot;cunt&quot;.  Originally, that word was just about women, just an offensive word targeted towards women.  Now, it&#039;s an offensive word for EVERYONE!  Not just women.  So by using that word, you&#039;re not offending every woman.  You&#039;re just offending the person you&#039;re calling a cunt.  &quot;Fagot&quot; has now reached that status as well.  And if you don&#039;t want that word to be offensive, then start using it.  Start calling your friends &quot;fagots&quot; (and i don&#039;t just mean gay friends...any friends)  If you use the word to mean something good, then eventually it will catch on as something good.  Also, go see the movie first.  Don&#039;t take some guy&#039;s opinion of it.  Especially a guy you don&#039;t even know!  So go see a movie, spend the 9 dollars and make your own judgment first!  Otherwise, stop complaining.

and before anyone says i should try dealing with homophobia and gay bashing first, you can be quiet.  I&#039;ve dealt with a lot of gay bashing before.  I&#039;ve dealt with antisemitism (i&#039;m also jewish).  I used to hate it.  Now, i&#039;m usually the one making the jew jokes and gay jokes.  If i can laugh at the offensiveness, then people will know that insulting me doesn&#039;t work because i just don&#039;t care and so they stop.

oh, and one more thing...you can&#039;t be angry when they&#039;re using &quot;gays&quot; as a joke by using the word &quot;fagot&quot; and making gay jokes because they also made the black kid an incredibly gangster, sex-crazed 11 year old.  That&#039;s using blacks as a joke too.  So if you&#039;re going to get on the movie&#039;s case for the gay thing, also get on their case for the black thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230;um&#8230;I just saw the movie.  And all i can say is&#8230;it was hilarious. The writing was pretty good.  The acting good.  I liked the plot and the humor and the fact that they didn&#8217;t give a damn about being politically correct.  </p>
<p>Yeah, they made some gay jokes.  Sure, they used the word &#8220;fagot&#8221; a few times and made jokes a few times.  But, it&#8217;s all in good fun.  They don&#8217;t mean anything by using the word &#8220;fagot&#8221;.  Yes, the characters might have used it offensively, but guess what?  It&#8217;s now an offensive word that applies to everyone, not just gay men.  It&#8217;s like the word &#8220;cunt&#8221;.  Originally, that word was just about women, just an offensive word targeted towards women.  Now, it&#8217;s an offensive word for EVERYONE!  Not just women.  So by using that word, you&#8217;re not offending every woman.  You&#8217;re just offending the person you&#8217;re calling a cunt.  &#8220;Fagot&#8221; has now reached that status as well.  And if you don&#8217;t want that word to be offensive, then start using it.  Start calling your friends &#8220;fagots&#8221; (and i don&#8217;t just mean gay friends&#8230;any friends)  If you use the word to mean something good, then eventually it will catch on as something good.  Also, go see the movie first.  Don&#8217;t take some guy&#8217;s opinion of it.  Especially a guy you don&#8217;t even know!  So go see a movie, spend the 9 dollars and make your own judgment first!  Otherwise, stop complaining.</p>
<p>and before anyone says i should try dealing with homophobia and gay bashing first, you can be quiet.  I&#8217;ve dealt with a lot of gay bashing before.  I&#8217;ve dealt with antisemitism (i&#8217;m also jewish).  I used to hate it.  Now, i&#8217;m usually the one making the jew jokes and gay jokes.  If i can laugh at the offensiveness, then people will know that insulting me doesn&#8217;t work because i just don&#8217;t care and so they stop.</p>
<p>oh, and one more thing&#8230;you can&#8217;t be angry when they&#8217;re using &#8220;gays&#8221; as a joke by using the word &#8220;fagot&#8221; and making gay jokes because they also made the black kid an incredibly gangster, sex-crazed 11 year old.  That&#8217;s using blacks as a joke too.  So if you&#8217;re going to get on the movie&#8217;s case for the gay thing, also get on their case for the black thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael R. Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely hated this movie for this reason. What do these people think? I&#039;m gay! Do I just let it go when they color the whole movie this way? And it&#039;s not even like I&#039;m proposing that the writers be pedantically politically correct, but doesn&#039;t anyone--ANYONE--a producer, a director, a make up person--SOMEBODY ask at some point of the filmmaking process, if a gay person is sitting in the audience, will they enjoy this? Am I doing what I set out to do? Do I mean what I say? It was just beyond infuriating and I really wanted to enjoy the performances more because in general, I really like Paul Rudd and Seann William Scott, but I just couldn&#039;t. I spent the whole time thinking about how gay I was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely hated this movie for this reason. What do these people think? I&#8217;m gay! Do I just let it go when they color the whole movie this way? And it&#8217;s not even like I&#8217;m proposing that the writers be pedantically politically correct, but doesn&#8217;t anyone&#8211;ANYONE&#8211;a producer, a director, a make up person&#8211;SOMEBODY ask at some point of the filmmaking process, if a gay person is sitting in the audience, will they enjoy this? Am I doing what I set out to do? Do I mean what I say? It was just beyond infuriating and I really wanted to enjoy the performances more because in general, I really like Paul Rudd and Seann William Scott, but I just couldn&#8217;t. I spent the whole time thinking about how gay I was.</p>
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		<title>By: blacksteel</title>
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		<dc:creator>blacksteel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things that don&#039;t add up:

1) Youth-targeted media are full of anti-gay humor, and they&#039;re popular.

2) Elementary and high school students commonly use the term, &quot;That&#039;s so gay!&quot; to express disdain and disgust.

3) We&#039;re told that today&#039;s youth are more gay-friendly and that they are our hope for a more friendly political climate in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things that don&#8217;t add up:</p>
<p>1) Youth-targeted media are full of anti-gay humor, and they&#8217;re popular.</p>
<p>2) Elementary and high school students commonly use the term, &#8220;That&#8217;s so gay!&#8221; to express disdain and disgust.</p>
<p>3) We&#8217;re told that today&#8217;s youth are more gay-friendly and that they are our hope for a more friendly political climate in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emma, Movies like this is why our civil rights movement is so misunderstood and abused. My question to you is what Theater did you see this movie at?
Was it Cinemark? Now, here&#039;s an experiment.
Watch how long the movie Role Models runs at a Cinemark theater.  Then watch how long the movie MILK runs at the same Cinemark theater.
See which movie makes more box office profits.
Then see which movie gets academy nominations. This could be very telling.
Then get back to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma, Movies like this is why our civil rights movement is so misunderstood and abused. My question to you is what Theater did you see this movie at?<br />
Was it Cinemark? Now, here&#8217;s an experiment.<br />
Watch how long the movie Role Models runs at a Cinemark theater.  Then watch how long the movie MILK runs at the same Cinemark theater.<br />
See which movie makes more box office profits.<br />
Then see which movie gets academy nominations. This could be very telling.<br />
Then get back to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug loves you</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug loves you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bet I have auggestion. Why doesn&#039;t everyone, and  do mean everyone quit paying to see the trash, garbage and filth that almost every movie these past 10 years or longer has been. What is so entertaining , funny or in the least good about any film you can think of. They are, in my opinion made for immature, horny 8th grade boys. 2 hours of nonstop murder, guns, drugs, sex, car theft, gangs ,violence against girls, rape and assault,gays are an object of dirision and a source of sick uninteligent humor. Yes you can send a strong message to Hollyweird by not going to see this garbage. Period...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet I have auggestion. Why doesn&#8217;t everyone, and  do mean everyone quit paying to see the trash, garbage and filth that almost every movie these past 10 years or longer has been. What is so entertaining , funny or in the least good about any film you can think of. They are, in my opinion made for immature, horny 8th grade boys. 2 hours of nonstop murder, guns, drugs, sex, car theft, gangs ,violence against girls, rape and assault,gays are an object of dirision and a source of sick uninteligent humor. Yes you can send a strong message to Hollyweird by not going to see this garbage. Period&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave W.   I agree but having not seen the movie it seems shallow to contact any particular theatre.  The producers/studio and the actor/writer&#039;s agent is appropriate but I&#039;m not sure to find out who is the agent.   Suggestions?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave W.   I agree but having not seen the movie it seems shallow to contact any particular theatre.  The producers/studio and the actor/writer&#8217;s agent is appropriate but I&#8217;m not sure to find out who is the agent.   Suggestions?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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