Comments on: Ruby-Sachs: Proposed DOMA Repeal is an Opportunity http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-proposed-doma-repeal-is-an-opportunity/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: KaninZ http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-proposed-doma-repeal-is-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-70208 KaninZ Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:39:46 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=8836#comment-70208 " those with civil unions or domestic partnerships won’t gain recognition nationally once DOMA is gone." This is supposed to be an argument against repealing DOMA? It's a red herring. They don't have the national recognition mentioned NOW! We won't lose or gain a thing except having one less legal hurdle in the way of equality for gay American families. Time to ante up America "liberty and justice for all" means gay Americans too! ” those with civil unions or domestic partnerships won’t gain recognition nationally once DOMA is gone.”

This is supposed to be an argument against repealing DOMA? It’s a red herring. They don’t have the national recognition mentioned NOW!
We won’t lose or gain a thing except having one less legal hurdle in the way of equality for gay American families.

Time to ante up America “liberty and justice for all” means gay Americans too!

]]> By: Thomas http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-proposed-doma-repeal-is-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-70201 Thomas Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:36:20 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=8836#comment-70201 This article caught me by surprise, because I had assumed repealing DOMA would be a totally positive thing for our community, but apparently it isn't so clear cut. What I'm unsure about is whether states' domestic partnerships were ever recognized nationally? I thought this was only at the state level and up to other states whether or not to recognize domestic partnerships. Who knows until the lawyers are finished. I suppose these partnerships may eventually dissolve with their members either opting for marriage, or opting out altogether. Additional expense for the couples, but perhaps in balance it will work out. I agree with Ginelle that marriage is going to be the standard, but I feel sorry for those who preferred the alternative to "until death do we part." Marriage is mired in the rubbish of Dead Sea Religion but apparently this is very exciting to many in our community, and I support their right to be miserable. This article caught me by surprise, because I had assumed repealing DOMA would be a totally positive thing for our community, but apparently it isn’t so clear cut. What I’m unsure about is whether states’ domestic partnerships were ever recognized nationally? I thought this was only at the state level and up to other states whether or not to recognize domestic partnerships. Who knows until the lawyers are finished.

I suppose these partnerships may eventually dissolve with their members either opting for marriage, or opting out altogether. Additional expense for the couples, but perhaps in balance it will work out.

I agree with Ginelle that marriage is going to be the standard, but I feel sorry for those who preferred the alternative to “until death do we part.” Marriage is mired in the rubbish of Dead Sea Religion but apparently this is very exciting to many in our community, and I support their right to be miserable.

]]> By: Ginelle http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-proposed-doma-repeal-is-an-opportunity/comment-page-1/#comment-70170 Ginelle Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:49:24 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=8836#comment-70170 Marriage is what is needed! Not civil unions, not domestic partnerships, not civil partnerships or any other name that they may decide to invent to further alienate Gay men and women from the equality they so deserve. Until marriage itself is achieved either by the repeal of DOMA or any other legal means, then Gay people will not have gained equality. Marriage is what is needed! Not civil unions, not domestic partnerships, not civil partnerships or any other name that they may decide to invent to further alienate Gay men and women from the equality they so deserve. Until marriage itself is achieved either by the repeal of DOMA or any other legal means, then Gay people will not have gained equality.

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