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		<title>By: Gary Rosche</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-new-doma-brief-has-kind-words-but-creates-big-harm/comment-page-2/#comment-71641</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Rosche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>budbud, you are mistaken.  Obama&#039;s DOJ was under no obligation to defend DOMA, in fact there are quite a few examples of this in recent history. from Time Magazine: &quot;The Administration could easily decline to defend the anti-gay law on discrimination grounds, just as the Administration of George H.W. Bush declined to defend federal laws setting a preference for awarding broadcast licenses to minority-owned businesses in 1990. The radical firebrand at the Department of Justice who successfully argued against defending those laws? A young DOJ attorney named John Roberts, who is now the Chief Justice of the United States. Clearly, Obama could have refused to defend DOMA if he had really wanted to.&quot;  source: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1917344,00.html   Don&#039;t believe Obama&#039;s cowardly lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>budbud, you are mistaken.  Obama&#8217;s DOJ was under no obligation to defend DOMA, in fact there are quite a few examples of this in recent history. from Time Magazine: &#8220;The Administration could easily decline to defend the anti-gay law on discrimination grounds, just as the Administration of George H.W. Bush declined to defend federal laws setting a preference for awarding broadcast licenses to minority-owned businesses in 1990. The radical firebrand at the Department of Justice who successfully argued against defending those laws? A young DOJ attorney named John Roberts, who is now the Chief Justice of the United States. Clearly, Obama could have refused to defend DOMA if he had really wanted to.&#8221;  source: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1917344,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1917344,00.html</a>   Don&#8217;t believe Obama&#8217;s cowardly lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Budbud</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-new-doma-brief-has-kind-words-but-creates-big-harm/comment-page-1/#comment-71639</link>
		<dc:creator>Budbud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is the head of the U.S. government. DOMA is a statute passed by and currently held as valid in the eyes of the U.S. government.  

Any administration is legally bound to defend the laws of the U.S. government, even if most or all of the individuals in that administration disagree with the law.

If I&#039;m not mistaken, had any state declared abortion or not being Christian illegal under Bushes term, Bush and his DOJ would have had to fight that state in court.  

Even though Bush and the GOP would love to see a state ban abortion and non-Christianity, that state would be going against federal statutes on those issues and even a GOP DOJ would be obliged to present an argument against that state.

A pathetically weak argument in defense of DOMA is the best any gay friendly administration can do.  From what I&#039;ve read, this is just that, so cheer up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the head of the U.S. government. DOMA is a statute passed by and currently held as valid in the eyes of the U.S. government.  </p>
<p>Any administration is legally bound to defend the laws of the U.S. government, even if most or all of the individuals in that administration disagree with the law.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken, had any state declared abortion or not being Christian illegal under Bushes term, Bush and his DOJ would have had to fight that state in court.  </p>
<p>Even though Bush and the GOP would love to see a state ban abortion and non-Christianity, that state would be going against federal statutes on those issues and even a GOP DOJ would be obliged to present an argument against that state.</p>
<p>A pathetically weak argument in defense of DOMA is the best any gay friendly administration can do.  From what I&#8217;ve read, this is just that, so cheer up!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Rosche</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-new-doma-brief-has-kind-words-but-creates-big-harm/comment-page-1/#comment-71537</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Rosche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the statement Obama made after his DOJ defended the bigoted DOMA as consitutional in court: &quot;my Administration will continue to examine and implement measures that will help extend rights and benefits to LGBT couples under existing law.&quot;  Well, the EXISTING LAW is DOMA which specifically outlaws extending ANY rights or benefits of marriage to LGBT couples.  That makes Obama a two faced cowardly liar who wants to have his cake and eat it too.  If you think we should continue to sit around and wait for him to do something for us you&#039;re as stupid as he thinks we are.  We must demand our rights, right now.  Obama is just another obstruction.  He is not our ally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the statement Obama made after his DOJ defended the bigoted DOMA as consitutional in court: &#8220;my Administration will continue to examine and implement measures that will help extend rights and benefits to LGBT couples under existing law.&#8221;  Well, the EXISTING LAW is DOMA which specifically outlaws extending ANY rights or benefits of marriage to LGBT couples.  That makes Obama a two faced cowardly liar who wants to have his cake and eat it too.  If you think we should continue to sit around and wait for him to do something for us you&#8217;re as stupid as he thinks we are.  We must demand our rights, right now.  Obama is just another obstruction.  He is not our ally.</p>
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		<title>By: Yhitzak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yhitzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the most poorly written things I&#039;ve ever read on this site, and that is saying a lot. You have run-on sentences, poor grammar and punctuation, and what on Earth is &quot;bried&quot; (last sentence of column)? Sorry, but I can&#039;t even figure out what you&#039;re getting at in this column other than the standard indignation at the Obama administration. (Because, really, what else is there to care about in this world than the way the Obama admin addresses GLBT people? Screw the economy, health-care, wars in foreign nations, torture allegations, climate change, and everything else that isn&#039;t STRICTLY GAY!!) Please get an editor, Ms. Ruby-Sachs. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most poorly written things I&#8217;ve ever read on this site, and that is saying a lot. You have run-on sentences, poor grammar and punctuation, and what on Earth is &#8220;bried&#8221; (last sentence of column)? Sorry, but I can&#8217;t even figure out what you&#8217;re getting at in this column other than the standard indignation at the Obama administration. (Because, really, what else is there to care about in this world than the way the Obama admin addresses GLBT people? Screw the economy, health-care, wars in foreign nations, torture allegations, climate change, and everything else that isn&#8217;t STRICTLY GAY!!) Please get an editor, Ms. Ruby-Sachs. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We forget something important. The president alone cannot remove DOMA using an executive order. Its an act of congress to repeal DOMA.  

 I think Obama has done what he can to this point by publically calling it discrimatory act. He is getting public opinion on swaying voters to pressure Congress. 

Unfortunatly this president has not enough political favors earned to push all of his promises through at once. With the economy and healthcare both on the table, its hard for anyone to pay attention to the other issues.  

If anything, Obama would have a better chance during his 2nd term providing the economy improves by 2011 to get enough support to repeal DOMA in Congress. He may be gaining support in private beyond the media attention to earn that support of other polticians and with any political process it takes time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We forget something important. The president alone cannot remove DOMA using an executive order. Its an act of congress to repeal DOMA.  </p>
<p> I think Obama has done what he can to this point by publically calling it discrimatory act. He is getting public opinion on swaying voters to pressure Congress. </p>
<p>Unfortunatly this president has not enough political favors earned to push all of his promises through at once. With the economy and healthcare both on the table, its hard for anyone to pay attention to the other issues.  </p>
<p>If anything, Obama would have a better chance during his 2nd term providing the economy improves by 2011 to get enough support to repeal DOMA in Congress. He may be gaining support in private beyond the media attention to earn that support of other polticians and with any political process it takes time.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not an issue of whether or not the President&#039;s administration sees the issue of DOMA as a problem, I feel it&#039;s a question of validity for the administration regarding gay rights.

Yes, President Obama was the best choice for our country... I try to convince myself of that a little more everyday (who knows how Hillary would have done), but our representatives are elected to represent us... they either do that or they don&#039;t get re-elected. President Obama has a full plate in front of him, but I don&#039;t feel guilty by pushing my serving of civil rights on his plate for him to take a piece out of, do you?

The LGBT was promised a seat at the talbe of issues by then candidate Obama while he was courting the LGBT community, and now it&#039;s time for us to call in our favors and create the &quot;change&quot; we all believed in.

www.citizenzero.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not an issue of whether or not the President&#8217;s administration sees the issue of DOMA as a problem, I feel it&#8217;s a question of validity for the administration regarding gay rights.</p>
<p>Yes, President Obama was the best choice for our country&#8230; I try to convince myself of that a little more everyday (who knows how Hillary would have done), but our representatives are elected to represent us&#8230; they either do that or they don&#8217;t get re-elected. President Obama has a full plate in front of him, but I don&#8217;t feel guilty by pushing my serving of civil rights on his plate for him to take a piece out of, do you?</p>
<p>The LGBT was promised a seat at the talbe of issues by then candidate Obama while he was courting the LGBT community, and now it&#8217;s time for us to call in our favors and create the &#8220;change&#8221; we all believed in.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.citizenzero.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizenzero.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Facebook User--if you wanted to come off as a little more of the adolescent dramatist, you could at least post a pic of yourself with the anarchy sign clearly visible on your backpack.  If you want to be taken seriously (I&#039;m assuming that&#039;s at least a secondary but unspoken goal), then spare the petulance.  Be smart.  Be angry.  Be aware.  But don&#039;t be childish.  (I&#039;m tempted to say something like, &quot;Life gets easier once you get your SAT scores and acceptance letters,&quot; but I&#039;ll skip that sarcasm for now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Facebook User&#8211;if you wanted to come off as a little more of the adolescent dramatist, you could at least post a pic of yourself with the anarchy sign clearly visible on your backpack.  If you want to be taken seriously (I&#8217;m assuming that&#8217;s at least a secondary but unspoken goal), then spare the petulance.  Be smart.  Be angry.  Be aware.  But don&#8217;t be childish.  (I&#8217;m tempted to say something like, &#8220;Life gets easier once you get your SAT scores and acceptance letters,&#8221; but I&#8217;ll skip that sarcasm for now.)</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United States hates us. So I hate it back. Thanks, USA, for screwing me over. I can&#039;t wait to get the hell out of here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States hates us. So I hate it back. Thanks, USA, for screwing me over. I can&#8217;t wait to get the hell out of here.</p>
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		<title>By: yodafriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>yodafriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@michaelandfred

I know &quot;our&quot; president hasn&#039;t done alot of what he&#039;s promised, actually he has done nothing, he&#039;s promised so far. I&#039;m not saying just because &quot;I&quot; voted him into office, that he is GOD. Nor should anyone else who&#039;ve voted for him. I also know that he&#039;s not 100% right about everything he&#039;s said or done. I&#039;m not perfect, nor is anyone else, and definetly not the president. I&#039;ve been on this website for a couple of years now, and I couldn&#039;t stand GW. Yes, I voted for Barack Obama, and I haven&#039;t agreed with everything that has been going on since he was elected. Yes, I&#039;m pissed that he hasn&#039;t moved quickly through with his promises. I believe he should have stopped kicking the GLBT community out of the military as one of his first campaign promises. I know that our economy and healthcare was given to him from the previous devil in office. Mostly what I pick off of this website are people who&#039;ve said &quot;I should&#039;ve voted for McCain/Palin&quot; and &quot;why did we vote for Obama?&quot; He&#039;s been in office for almost 8 months, he should&#039;ve put his authority on passing the health care bill. If I didn&#039;t trust him when I voted for him, then I wouldn&#039;t have voted him into office. All of the bloggers on here don&#039;t know what it is like to be President of the United States, including you and me. All I have read since January is people on this site dumping on him. Don&#039;t you think that when he says that the GLBT community is discriminated against, and should have all the rights as the Constituition states, that that might put a smile on someone&#039;s face that is reading the article? It made me smile, but I get on here and everybody is still slinging shit his way. I know that he can say alot and isn&#039;t doing anything, but just blowing hot air. I also think, until it actually happens is when I&#039;ll believe it. It just would be nice, to see someone on here say something good about him, is he a good person? father? friend? or president? I know that this is politics, and they&#039;re alot of shady people in the government. There will always be shady people in the government, along with liars, cheats, thieves, and evil doers for millions of years to come. I have to put faith in the person I voted for, if not, then who do I put faith in? The GLBT community? You can talk a talk, but if you don&#039;t walk the walk, who can you trust? He&#039;s been in office for 7.5 months, if he doesn&#039;t make any change in our government by the end of the year, then I&#039;ll know I made a mistake in voting him into office. We shouldn&#039;t have to wait this long for at least one promise to be made. The Neo Nazi people that shout our health care down in our Democratic conventions, are assholes, and like you said as we are the people, we need to get more involved into fighting what the right wingers keep lying about. Stand up against those people, lets shout over them or not let them enter into our conventions. It&#039;s got to be easier done than said. PERIOD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@michaelandfred</p>
<p>I know &#8220;our&#8221; president hasn&#8217;t done alot of what he&#8217;s promised, actually he has done nothing, he&#8217;s promised so far. I&#8217;m not saying just because &#8220;I&#8221; voted him into office, that he is GOD. Nor should anyone else who&#8217;ve voted for him. I also know that he&#8217;s not 100% right about everything he&#8217;s said or done. I&#8217;m not perfect, nor is anyone else, and definetly not the president. I&#8217;ve been on this website for a couple of years now, and I couldn&#8217;t stand GW. Yes, I voted for Barack Obama, and I haven&#8217;t agreed with everything that has been going on since he was elected. Yes, I&#8217;m pissed that he hasn&#8217;t moved quickly through with his promises. I believe he should have stopped kicking the GLBT community out of the military as one of his first campaign promises. I know that our economy and healthcare was given to him from the previous devil in office. Mostly what I pick off of this website are people who&#8217;ve said &#8220;I should&#8217;ve voted for McCain/Palin&#8221; and &#8220;why did we vote for Obama?&#8221; He&#8217;s been in office for almost 8 months, he should&#8217;ve put his authority on passing the health care bill. If I didn&#8217;t trust him when I voted for him, then I wouldn&#8217;t have voted him into office. All of the bloggers on here don&#8217;t know what it is like to be President of the United States, including you and me. All I have read since January is people on this site dumping on him. Don&#8217;t you think that when he says that the GLBT community is discriminated against, and should have all the rights as the Constituition states, that that might put a smile on someone&#8217;s face that is reading the article? It made me smile, but I get on here and everybody is still slinging shit his way. I know that he can say alot and isn&#8217;t doing anything, but just blowing hot air. I also think, until it actually happens is when I&#8217;ll believe it. It just would be nice, to see someone on here say something good about him, is he a good person? father? friend? or president? I know that this is politics, and they&#8217;re alot of shady people in the government. There will always be shady people in the government, along with liars, cheats, thieves, and evil doers for millions of years to come. I have to put faith in the person I voted for, if not, then who do I put faith in? The GLBT community? You can talk a talk, but if you don&#8217;t walk the walk, who can you trust? He&#8217;s been in office for 7.5 months, if he doesn&#8217;t make any change in our government by the end of the year, then I&#8217;ll know I made a mistake in voting him into office. We shouldn&#8217;t have to wait this long for at least one promise to be made. The Neo Nazi people that shout our health care down in our Democratic conventions, are assholes, and like you said as we are the people, we need to get more involved into fighting what the right wingers keep lying about. Stand up against those people, lets shout over them or not let them enter into our conventions. It&#8217;s got to be easier done than said. PERIOD</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected  administrative convenience as a valid rational basis for justifying a law (and it&#039;s not even perfectly clear that this is what the DOJ is arguing).  So, which is more likely: (1) this isn&#039;t actually an administrative convenience argument; (2)
the DOJ is giving a bare-bones defense by using an argument that they expect to fail in order to give us our best shot at DOMA being found unconstitutional; or (3) the DOJ is using DOMA (of all things) as a vehicle to engineer a major shift in constitutional law (or otherwise, that everyone in the DOJ is completely unaware of this universally taught first-year law school lesson).

I&#039;m going to venture a guess that they are not trying to engineer a legal disaster that would still require that a court actually reverse countless decades of precedent.

Have a little faith and give the Administration a break.  They are doing their best.  Not everything that looks like a disaster actually is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected  administrative convenience as a valid rational basis for justifying a law (and it&#8217;s not even perfectly clear that this is what the DOJ is arguing).  So, which is more likely: (1) this isn&#8217;t actually an administrative convenience argument; (2)<br />
the DOJ is giving a bare-bones defense by using an argument that they expect to fail in order to give us our best shot at DOMA being found unconstitutional; or (3) the DOJ is using DOMA (of all things) as a vehicle to engineer a major shift in constitutional law (or otherwise, that everyone in the DOJ is completely unaware of this universally taught first-year law school lesson).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to venture a guess that they are not trying to engineer a legal disaster that would still require that a court actually reverse countless decades of precedent.</p>
<p>Have a little faith and give the Administration a break.  They are doing their best.  Not everything that looks like a disaster actually is one.</p>
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