wow i may be only 17 but i lear n more horrid things about what ther=y are doing to the LGBT communty every day
im astonished… just in utter disbelief

Historically women were accused of being violent and crazy when they were fighting for equal rights in this country. So I don’t think we need to cower to those pushing their religious point of view when they say that we are violent. That’s just empy rhetoric & as you say, Roger, they would call us that whether we’re violent or not. However, I don’t think that gives us license to do violence.

I don’t think that rights fall out of a sky — so why not do more? When women were fighting for rights, they were standing outside the capital for days on end with their protest, committed to do so until they got the right to vote, even in a time of war when it was considered shocking and offensive for them to be there. We had the big protests on November 15th and roughly 12,000 came out for it in Los Angeles – why didn’t we have 100,000? Why did we stick to this silly protest route around downtown where no one was there except us instead of taking it to the streets and stopping traffic where people were actually inconvienced?

That’s non-violent civil disobedience. Why are we playing so nice? I don’t know.

But moving from stopping traffic, getting in their faces with it and boycotting companies to being willing to do violence to people and destroying their property? That’s a leap.

And even if it is wasn’t morally wrong to do violence or destroy property, it’s against the constitution – the same constitution we believe is going to come to our salvation at the end with the separation of church & state. If they have to respect the part of it that they don’t like, we have to respect the part that says we can’t destroy their property. What’s good for the goose…

Our human rights our civil rights as human beings are under attack. Slaves could and death row inmates can marry, but not gay people. Rights are not inalienable, they don’t fall out of the sky from God, rights are political and the only time we can secure them is when we are capable of fighting, killing and dying for them.

Voltaire said I might not believe in what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. That is a noble concept. But by the same token, we should fight for our rights just as vigorously as we fight for the rights of others. Killing is no more morally or ethically wrong, when it is in the “defense” of your country, then when it is in the defense of your rights. If someone tries to rape you or rob you, you have the right to kill to protect yourself. When more than 1,700 rights are at stake, we have just as much, if not more of a moral right to kill to keep those rights.

Gays and lesbians have NEVER worked to impede the rights of Mormons to the freedom to practice their own religion. But freedom of religion has a limit, when you force your religion upon others and limit their rights, you have no freedom of religion. Mormons and others who’ve supported and voted for Prop 8 deserve NO rights. If you try to carjack someone, and they put a bullet in your head, then it’s the carjacker who’s at fault. By the same token, if Mormons or Catholics of Blacks think they have the right to take away the rights of gays and lesbians, then they too should be dealt with accordingly.

If the right to vote gives someone the right to vote away someone else’s human rights. Then the right to bear arms gives that person whose rights were violated the right to kill the person responsible. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Taking the old lady’s cross out of her hands and stomping on it was heat of the moment and not premeditated, and that old lady is as much to blame for inciting it. That was played repeatedly on FOX.

People are going to do extreme things when they don’t feel the gay rights movement at large is doing enough, fast enough. And we really aren’t. There will be chaos as long as we’re disorganized. I think it’s been getting more organized just in the past month though.

Is the person(s) who did it part of our community? We may never know. But to not personally acknowledge given the timing that it may likely be a member(s) of our community is a bit narrow minded, I think.

The acts of vandalism were also wrong and shouldn’t have happened.

Non-violent civil disobedience, protesting, pressuring representatives, boycotts, other creative non-violent tactics = super cool & ultimately effective.

Vandalism & pulling a cross out of crazy lady’s hand and destroying it = not cool & totally counter productive.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think we’re a bunch of violent goons like The Becket Fund would have people believe – but I also think we should acknowledge that there have been a handful of violent incidences and try to nip them in the bud.