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	<title>Comments on: Ruby-Sachs: Lesbian U.S. Soldier Seeks Asylum in Canada</title>
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		<title>By: Sara Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-lesbian-us-soldier-seeks-asylum-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-72979</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She might try New Zealand. They are good friends with the US even though they do not bow down to its more anal retentative policies. 
Plus it has to be one of the most healthiest places on earth, real fresh food, low polution and a medical system in wich everybody gets, world class second to none  medical treatment without going broke.
Under the circumstances she would be better off there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She might try New Zealand. They are good friends with the US even though they do not bow down to its more anal retentative policies.<br />
Plus it has to be one of the most healthiest places on earth, real fresh food, low polution and a medical system in wich everybody gets, world class second to none  medical treatment without going broke.<br />
Under the circumstances she would be better off there.</p>
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		<title>By: jcroce1994</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcroce1994</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes.. before you ask.... I served and was decorated in 2 war zones, pretty much openly Gay from the beginning, and I was questioned numerous times by NIS about my homosexuality. At the advice of the ACLU, I flatly denied being Gay in order to STAY IN the service. And there was nothing they could do to get me out, as long as they never caught me having sex, or got me to admit being Gay. 

Them&#039;s the rules. Play by em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes.. before you ask&#8230;. I served and was decorated in 2 war zones, pretty much openly Gay from the beginning, and I was questioned numerous times by NIS about my homosexuality. At the advice of the ACLU, I flatly denied being Gay in order to STAY IN the service. And there was nothing they could do to get me out, as long as they never caught me having sex, or got me to admit being Gay. </p>
<p>Them&#8217;s the rules. Play by em.</p>
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		<title>By: jcroce1994</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcroce1994</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a REAL problem with this. Private Smith decided to play the &#039;Gay card&#039; to get out of going to Afghanistan, then deserted and ran to Canada when the army decided to ship her over there anyway. EXCUUUUSE ME! She enlisted, took the pay,... took the benefits, and was fat, dumb and happy as long as she got stationed someplace safe and fun. Then they tried to send her to war... OMG, sending a soldier to WAR!!! How dare they??

How stupid did she think the Army was? And how much damage does it do to EVERY Gay soldier, when this lazy ass uses being Gay as an excuse to get out of doing her job?? I hope Canada sends her back to the U.S. Army, and she spends some time in Leavenworth instead of Afghanistan. She&#039;ll find plenty of comfort there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a REAL problem with this. Private Smith decided to play the &#8216;Gay card&#8217; to get out of going to Afghanistan, then deserted and ran to Canada when the army decided to ship her over there anyway. EXCUUUUSE ME! She enlisted, took the pay,&#8230; took the benefits, and was fat, dumb and happy as long as she got stationed someplace safe and fun. Then they tried to send her to war&#8230; OMG, sending a soldier to WAR!!! How dare they??</p>
<p>How stupid did she think the Army was? And how much damage does it do to EVERY Gay soldier, when this lazy ass uses being Gay as an excuse to get out of doing her job?? I hope Canada sends her back to the U.S. Army, and she spends some time in Leavenworth instead of Afghanistan. She&#8217;ll find plenty of comfort there.</p>
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		<title>By: Southernhemisphere</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/ruby-sachs-lesbian-us-soldier-seeks-asylum-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-72957</link>
		<dc:creator>Southernhemisphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A soldier deployed in the state of mind and spirit this young woman is in is not a good idea. Her decision making does not seem to be at its best for being on the battle field and fighting.War is a team effort and the decision to send someone out to battle and put the lives of others at risk is not a good idea by any means. She should have been referred for counseling instead rather than being delayed from an honorable discharge via deployment. What&#039;s really going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A soldier deployed in the state of mind and spirit this young woman is in is not a good idea. Her decision making does not seem to be at its best for being on the battle field and fighting.War is a team effort and the decision to send someone out to battle and put the lives of others at risk is not a good idea by any means. She should have been referred for counseling instead rather than being delayed from an honorable discharge via deployment. What&#8217;s really going on?</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, being gay isn&#039;t the nucleus of my life. It is a very important part, but I chose to serve my country. Yes, I was upset that I had to hide, but that was part of the choice I made. During WW2, African-American soldiers served a country that largely didn&#039;t think there was a place for them, nor did they consider them worthy of recognition, but they served anyway. The only difference here, is that you can&#039;t see gay by looking at the skin.

My major problem with this woman is that she ran to Canada. This was done with the draft dodgers in Vietnam as well. She has committed a crime, and should be punished for that crime. She chose to serve in spite of her sexuality, and she knew going in the chance she was taking. I have to feel bad that she was harassed, and think some things need to change there, but that is still no excuse to violate her contract, and try to hide in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, being gay isn&#8217;t the nucleus of my life. It is a very important part, but I chose to serve my country. Yes, I was upset that I had to hide, but that was part of the choice I made. During WW2, African-American soldiers served a country that largely didn&#8217;t think there was a place for them, nor did they consider them worthy of recognition, but they served anyway. The only difference here, is that you can&#8217;t see gay by looking at the skin.</p>
<p>My major problem with this woman is that she ran to Canada. This was done with the draft dodgers in Vietnam as well. She has committed a crime, and should be punished for that crime. She chose to serve in spite of her sexuality, and she knew going in the chance she was taking. I have to feel bad that she was harassed, and think some things need to change there, but that is still no excuse to violate her contract, and try to hide in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,
Your double standard amazes me,telling me to serve your country honestly but betraying 
youself and your gay community I fail to see how you can render judgement on some one else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,<br />
Your double standard amazes me,telling me to serve your country honestly but betraying<br />
youself and your gay community I fail to see how you can render judgement on some one else</p>
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		<title>By: JerryM70</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryM70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very poorly written article.  It implied that Private Smith was about to be sent to Afghanistan for her third deployment.

That makes me suspicious.  I suspect there is other information if after two successful tours in a combat zone, she is still a private.  

That still doesn&#039;t explain why or how she was outed and there is no information on the alleged harassment she endured.  

Craig was correct when he stated the obvious fact that she created more problems for herself by deserting.  

I do understand the pressure of the closet.  When I was in the Army, I would not only have been subject to a dishonorable discharge, but because I compounded my &quot;crime&quot; by serving as a linguist with a security clearance.  In the 60s I was subject to the draft.  Queers weren&#039;t welcome anywhere so we hid.  That hiding left me open for criminal punishment that could have included 15 years in Leavenworth.

I completed my enlistment and took my honorable discharge and went on my way.

And while I was not in a combat zone, I was in a small post a 15 minute bomber flight from the nearest Soviet air base during the Cuban Missile Crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very poorly written article.  It implied that Private Smith was about to be sent to Afghanistan for her third deployment.</p>
<p>That makes me suspicious.  I suspect there is other information if after two successful tours in a combat zone, she is still a private.  </p>
<p>That still doesn&#8217;t explain why or how she was outed and there is no information on the alleged harassment she endured.  </p>
<p>Craig was correct when he stated the obvious fact that she created more problems for herself by deserting.  </p>
<p>I do understand the pressure of the closet.  When I was in the Army, I would not only have been subject to a dishonorable discharge, but because I compounded my &#8220;crime&#8221; by serving as a linguist with a security clearance.  In the 60s I was subject to the draft.  Queers weren&#8217;t welcome anywhere so we hid.  That hiding left me open for criminal punishment that could have included 15 years in Leavenworth.</p>
<p>I completed my enlistment and took my honorable discharge and went on my way.</p>
<p>And while I was not in a combat zone, I was in a small post a 15 minute bomber flight from the nearest Soviet air base during the Cuban Missile Crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Amarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But there’s one very important thing on which I think everyone can agree is an absolute travesty: NO MAJOR AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS ARE COVERING THIS STORY!&quot;

Agreed. 

You know what else is a travesty?  Other major news sources calling South African runner Semenya a &quot;hermaphrodite!&quot;  WTF?  Are we on the playground in fifth grade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But there’s one very important thing on which I think everyone can agree is an absolute travesty: NO MAJOR AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS ARE COVERING THIS STORY!&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. </p>
<p>You know what else is a travesty?  Other major news sources calling South African runner Semenya a &#8220;hermaphrodite!&#8221;  WTF?  Are we on the playground in fifth grade?</p>
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		<title>By: bobco85</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobco85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tough situation, and as frank as Craig&#039;s comments are, I do agree with him in a few ways.

The attitude towards deserters in the military seems to only be a step above treason, and she&#039;s going to be deported back to the United States and face a prison sentence of up to 18 months (typical sentences seem to range between a year and 18 months).

That said, I do think (and hope) she could argue that under DADT she should have been discharged and the crime of desertion would not apply. It&#039;s tough because the paperwork was never filled out. Additionally, her superior officer (who refused to fill the paperwork out until after the deployment) should be punished for failing to act under proper DADT rules.

I can&#039;t seem to find the full details of the timeline of her being outed to her being told she was getting deployed. How much time took place between these events? How long did she wait before telling her superior officer about the harassment? These are very important details to consider before judging her actions as &quot;wussing out&quot; or &quot;protecting her life&quot;.

But there&#039;s one very important thing on which I think everyone can agree is an absolute travesty: NO MAJOR AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS ARE COVERING THIS STORY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough situation, and as frank as Craig&#8217;s comments are, I do agree with him in a few ways.</p>
<p>The attitude towards deserters in the military seems to only be a step above treason, and she&#8217;s going to be deported back to the United States and face a prison sentence of up to 18 months (typical sentences seem to range between a year and 18 months).</p>
<p>That said, I do think (and hope) she could argue that under DADT she should have been discharged and the crime of desertion would not apply. It&#8217;s tough because the paperwork was never filled out. Additionally, her superior officer (who refused to fill the paperwork out until after the deployment) should be punished for failing to act under proper DADT rules.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find the full details of the timeline of her being outed to her being told she was getting deployed. How much time took place between these events? How long did she wait before telling her superior officer about the harassment? These are very important details to consider before judging her actions as &#8220;wussing out&#8221; or &#8220;protecting her life&#8221;.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s one very important thing on which I think everyone can agree is an absolute travesty: NO MAJOR AMERICAN NEWS NETWORKS ARE COVERING THIS STORY!</p>
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		<title>By: Amarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig: I may be reading this the wrong way, but it does not seem to me that Private Smith outed herself in order to escape deployment.  If I am wrong, please correct me Ms. Ruby-Sachs, but it looks more like she was outed during her service, was harassed by her fellow servicemembers, and only then asked to be discharged under DADT because she feared for her life (which is not an unfounded fear--Private Barry Winchell comes to mind).    

The problem is that DADT is only applied selectively in these times of war.  A gay servicemember is fine as long as there aren&#039;t enough &quot;normal&quot; people to fill the ranks.  But tell me, what would they have done to protect her from violence and harassment had she remained?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig: I may be reading this the wrong way, but it does not seem to me that Private Smith outed herself in order to escape deployment.  If I am wrong, please correct me Ms. Ruby-Sachs, but it looks more like she was outed during her service, was harassed by her fellow servicemembers, and only then asked to be discharged under DADT because she feared for her life (which is not an unfounded fear&#8211;Private Barry Winchell comes to mind).    </p>
<p>The problem is that DADT is only applied selectively in these times of war.  A gay servicemember is fine as long as there aren&#8217;t enough &#8220;normal&#8221; people to fill the ranks.  But tell me, what would they have done to protect her from violence and harassment had she remained?</p>
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