Comments on: Ruby-Sachs: Governor Sanford and the Failure of Moral Politics

By: Daniel S

Daniel S — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:16:01 +0000

The fundamental problem is that many people in America still vote based on “moral” issues.

Mark Sanford is like many people of his ilk. He has trumpeted his religious values for the dual purpose of exciting people who like to hear such talk, and also as a cover for his personal guilt over his own actions. It’s not a coincidence that so many voices of “moral” politics are themselves often violating their own purported beliefs.

This is by no means limited to conservatives. I remember seething when Bill Clinton, who signed DOMA into law, stated openly that he was opposed to same-sex marriage for “religious reasons”. Of course his religion (Southern Baptist) also forbids adultery, but he seemed to have less of a problem ignoring that prohibition for his own personal gratification!

The lesson usually isn’t learned though. A great many people care more about symbolism than reality, and so moral politics will remain a fixture of American life.

By: Steve of Vermont (YES ON MARRIAGE EQUALITY)

Steve of Vermont (YES ON MARRIAGE EQUALITY) — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:51:47 +0000

Remember Larry Craig in a public Airport toilet??????????

Oh yes hyprocritical facist cunts with so-called “Moral Codes” agendas that they DO NOT follow themselves, but what others to follow the moral code, Republicans are so embarrassing to America!!!!!!

By: Sick and tired of bigots and want bigots DEAD

Sick and tired of bigots and want bigots DEAD — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:38:46 +0000

Govenor Sanford is a cunt!!!!

By: Robert, NYC

Robert, NYC — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:33:51 +0000

Drewski, I totally concur with your points. Sanford will get a fair shake because he’s straight. Even though he violated his own beliefs and the sanctity of marriage mantra, the right wing christo fascists will forgive him and move on. He vehemently opposed same sex marriage and even civil unions in his state. Yet, when it was Jim McGreevy, these religious extremists in tandem with the media roasted him alive and asked for his resignation immediately, which he did anyway of his own volition. The double standard these right wingers use is vile. Sanford’s behavior is a classic case of hypocrisy and bigotry in action and…oh so republican! No wonder they’re party is in exile, it can’t even take ownership of its hypocrisy and bigotry, let alone admit it.

By: Steve of Vermont (HAPPY ABOUT MARRIAGE IN MY STATE)

Steve of Vermont (HAPPY ABOUT MARRIAGE IN MY STATE) — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:24:19 +0000

I just passed this law recently:

MARRIAGE BAN FOR HYPOCRITES ACT 2009

(i) “any public employee of the state (democrate or republican) shall have there marriage null and void if any of the following is done:

(a) lie to the public;
(b) be a hyprocrical bigoted moron or act like a bigot with hateful, vilifying or embarrasing intentions;
(c) cheat on someone or have an affair with another person, secret or not secret, or;
(d) say that marriage is between people of the opposite sex consisting of one man and one woman as husband and wife to “protect the insitution of marriage” without a reason, logic, knowledge, back-up, justifying their silly or incedious claims.”

Passed: 27/6/2009 07:19am
Signed: 27/6/2009 08:00am
Effective: Once signed.

By: Sarrellec

Sarrellec — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:38:28 +0000

If the breeders were truly interested in “defending marriage” they’d pass fewer laws regarding gay people and more laws regarding marriage itself.
How about a law against divorce if children are involved?
How about a law against adultery (since that’s what their precious marriage says is vorboten) which results in jail time?
How about a law which requires a REAL license to get married which would require classes, instruction and compatibility counseling approval?
How about laws making procreation a licensed activity–just like adoption laws, the prospective parents have to prove their financial and stability capabilities of caring for a child?
Breeders are just loving this passing of laws for “the other guy”. If they were serious about protecting marriage, they’d be passing some laws to control themselves.

By: Reality

Reality — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:31:04 +0000

HE NEEDS TO RESIGN OR BE RECALLED!

He is Now using the bible saying “he is like David in the bible”

These people will stop an nothing!

He and democrats in the SC senate will be getting my letters very soon that say they should be pushing for his resignation.

Or maybe SC marriage laws states that marriage is between one man, one woman and a mistress in Argentina?

By: Morgan

Morgan — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:34:27 +0000

No one believes this loudly moral stuff anymore. Usually there is a liar or a cheat hiding behind the one who spouts moral stuff the loudest. A truly moral person just does the right thing but doesn’t suggest it for anyone else.

Today, I went to the funeral of a good woman who let her actions and her life speak for her. Many people came up and spoke eloquently for her and remembered her kindly.
I remembered her big, beautiful smile as did so many. She was a lovely person who did genuine good for many. She had many friends.

The harsh moralizer, on the other hand, has fewer and fewer friends these days. Usually there is a person in moral decline behind these vocal displays and one day, his or her dark secrets are found out in the worst way.

The meek being lovingly elevated by many in the end by saying nothing and the loud and the arrogant coming to their downfall one day during their lives for every one to know.

By: Nikki

Nikki — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:18:44 +0000

You’re totally right on Issac. And let’s not forget in the sodomy rights case of Bowers vs. Hardwick 1986 that the U.S. Constition protects Heterosexual privacy in the bedroom but not homosexual privacy. This hypocrisy is even endorsed by the courts. Thank God at least this slap in the face was later overturned.

By: cm

cm — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:39:15 +0000

Well said.