I was debating a buddy the other night that accused me of being a disgruntled Hillary supporter. I had to actually explain that I’d be calling anyone that gets into office on wrongs that I see. I couldn’t care less what party or affiliation a person is. Wrong is wrong is wrong.

I can see where you’re coming from. By claiming to be our friend he will lull some in the gay community into a false sense of security, causing them to believe they don’t have to fight as hard for their rights as they have a “friend” in the White House. However, the danger is not from Obama, but rather from within the gay community.

If we continue to push as hard as we did under Bush, we will see greater progress. We won’t see progress anywhere near the extent that we need. We won’t see true equality under Obama. We will, however, achieve more if we fight for it than we achieved under Bush.

The question is, how many will simply sit back and relax now that Obama is in office believing the fight to be over? And how long will it take them to realise that he is not the ally he claims to be?

“The same planet Bush and Cheney live on. The one where you talk so much BS you actually believe you know what you’re talking about.

OK. I’m gonna stop now”

Please do.

The same planet Bush and Cheney live on. The one where you talk so much BS you actually believe you know what you’re talking about.

OK. I’m gonna stop now

No, really I am

Tee Hee

But make no mistake, Obama will throw us under the bus as fast as he threw his grandmother if it will get him a vote.

I think that those that purport to be our friends and do nothing are far more dangerous than those that so vehemently wish us ill. (I still remember where I was when I heard Bush say that marriage was between one man and one woman.)

I just hope that this wakes people up that they can not hang their hopes on any one candidate or any one party.

What planet are you guys on? Bush was a monstrosity. He was a puppet for the Christian right who did more to hurt the battle for gay rights than ANYONE else could possibly have done. He and the people pulling his strings wanted to hurt the gay community, and they frequently succeeded.

Yes, it is easier to look at Bush and see a bigot, but that doesn’t mean for one second that ANYONE is going to long for the days when he was in office.

If you actually took the time to read what I wrote rather than focusing on one sentence you would see that I completely agree with you. Obama will only act in the interests of the gay community when doing so is in his OWN interests. He will only stand up for gay rights when doing so will help his chances for re-election. In other words, NEVER.

At the same time, however, he will not be the active obstacle that Bush was. He will not stand in the way of gay rights. He will do nothing at all, in fact. He will not hear us when we call out to him. He will not see us when we’re standing before him. He has made his token comments about being a friend to the gay community and we will hear them again in the future, but that is ALL we will get from him, now and in the future.

Obama will be less of an obstacle for the gay community simply because he doesn’t care enough to get in our way. Bush did. The people pulling his strings did. Obama only cares about Obama, and getting Obama re-elected. As such, he will play nice with both sides, smile at both of us and let us fight it out ourselves.

He is not a friend to the gay community, but nor is he our enemy. Bush, however, was.

So how about you stop acting like arrogant pricks assuming you know everything and actually start listening to what people have to say. If you had, if you’d read what I’d said in my last post, you would have been able to ascertain my opinion of Obama and would not look like such idiots now.

You me and some other few need to remain with our feet firmly on the ground while preparing for the inevitable fall down his gay followers are about to experience.

There will be plenty of confusion. There will be plenty of despair when they realize their anti Bush friends on the left don’t care anymore that they are treated as inferiors. Their love affair with SAINT OBAMA is going to leave them raped , unclothed , out in the streets and with people looking down on them.

The ManGod has absolutely and utterly disregarded the gay community. And when he does lift his anointed brow to comment on a gay community concern, he reprimands us.

Mark Mentions Obama and Prop 8 as well as Pastor Warren. How about no open gays to any cabinet post or any meaningful committee. How about only a window dressing gay for his inaugural committee. How about no comment on any Prop 8 rally or the passing of Prop 8 or the adoption ban. How about him backing away from DOMA and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Lord, he’s smashing us in the face and he ain’t even in office!

Ya’ll think that Bush may have been harmful to the gay community. Saint Obama is gonna make Bush look like a regular rainbow member.

“Obama may not be as gay-friendly as many of us hoped, but once that moronic bigot Bush is out of the way there will be one less obstacle in the path of the gay community.”
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Jonathan Said: January 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pm

“But I’m confident even his screw ups won’t be nearly as bad as the one we’re thankfully leaving behind”
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If the treatment we’ve been getting from him so far is any indication of what’s in store for us then there’s going to be many more wishing that they had SATAN BUSH BACK to vilify.

When SAINT OBAMA keeps ignoring you and even oppose you in a unifying , middle of the road way , you won’t have the hard left to keep you company. They won’t dare to speak against him! Take a look at Prop HATE. Take a look at the BIGOT pastor invitation going on now.

With devil Bush in office the hard left voiced their rejection on anything the devil made. It had nothing to do with being anti gay , they just hate him. Once saint Obama take office gays are going to become more disregarded and their issues are going to be heard less than before. Get ready to see your cries MASTERFULLY IGNORED.

When Obama is in office we can discuss what he does or does not do. He’s not there yet so deflecting the failures of Shrub and co. to him is useless.

Annointed one? How about Elected One?
More than we can say for Shrub the first time around.

For the record, I’m not one kneeling at the thrown of Obama. If/when he f***s up, I’ll be calling him on it. But I’m confident even his screw ups won’t be nearly as bad as the one we’re thankfully leaving behind

Carolyn – on the surface you’re absolutely right. It’s just a three minute prayer, so what harm can it do. Well, I’ll tell you. It lends legitimacy to a man who has fiercely homophobic, antisemitic and anti-muslim views. It tells the world that it’s ok to be prejudiced.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about racism, so look at it this way – having Rick Warren deliver the invocation is, to the gay community, like having a prominent member of the Ku Klux Klan delivering the invocation would be to the black community.

I’ve heard a lot of bullshit about Obama having to be “everyone’s President”, claiming that he has to reach out to both sides, but the truth is he doesn’t. Bigotry should not be tolerated. Bigotry should not be indulged. He would not have a racist standing at his side on Inauguration Day, so why have any other kind of bigot there?

It sends a message that homophobia isn’t that bad. It tells the world that you can be a bigot and Obama will still stand with you. For a man who, I’m sure, has encountered his share of racism over the years, it is as much a slap in the face to the gay community as it is to the black community.

Now, I agree with you – there is bigotry within the gay community. There are gays who are racist. There are gays who are intolerant of some, or all, religions. There are gays who don’t like straight people. Human beings are flawed and prejudice touches us all. That doesn’t mean, however, that it is in any way acceptable.

Obama is telling the world that homophobia is, at least to some degree, acceptable by having Rick Warren deliver the invocation. He is saying that prejudice is acceptable when directed at gay people. As a black woman, you should be ashamed that he is to become the first “black” President.

And Ms Ruby-Sachs – I am personally extremely disappointed at the “advances” in gay rights this year. With every step forward we have taken there has been at least one step back. A court says same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, so the people of California change the constitution. Yes, let’s celebrate the wisdom of the court, but at the same time we need to remember that in California, arguably one of the most gay-friendly States, the people there do not think we are entitled to the same basic human rights as everyone else.

The gay community has seen victories in 2008, but overall it has been a terrible year. I only hope that the small tastes of victory we’ve had will energise the community to work together to bring about some real and lasting changes.

Obama may not be as gay-friendly as many of us hoped, but once that moronic bigot Bush is out of the way there will be one less obstacle in the path of the gay community. His departure will at least guarantee a better year for us all, even if we don’t have the victories we’re hoping for.