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Ruby-Sachs: Ellen comments on Prop 8

By Emma Ruby-Sachs, 365gay blogger 11.07.2008 5:04pm EST

Here is Ellen’s response to the election wins and losses. Not much there in terms of content. She promises to continue to speak out for equality, I hope she continues to spend for equality too.


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  • Shawna Said: November 9th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
    • Amendment 2 in Florida
      We can elect an African American President by a landslide, but hate and bigotry are still present, just redirected at another group of people, Gays And Lesbians. You would think that in this day and age, people would be more fair and open minded. You would think that people where smarter and could detect sleazy underhanded hidden discrimination.

      If Gays and Lesbians are already unable to marry in the state of Florida, then why would an amendment to the states constitution be necessary? The “Protection of Marriage Act“, what a joke, the only decline in divorce is because people are not getting married these days.

      I am outraged that Amendment 2 was even on the ballet. The majority of the people who voted where uninformed about the subject and when reading it, it was very misleading. It did not go into details or discus Domestic Partnership and how it would be effected. This impacts gay and straight couple alike who co-habitat instead of getting married. Both Disney and the airlines here in Florida, along with a couple other larger companies offer Domestic Partner Benefits.

      The problem is, all the straight folk, didn’t know it could also effect them, other wise the vote would of been swayed in the opposite direction. I’d bet they’d be in a up roar if Domestic Partner Benefits cease to exist and there are no insurance benefits or free airline tickets to their girlfriend/boyfriends (partners) at least they have the option of being forced into marriage for these benefits again.

      Why are people still letting others control how they think, feel and opinions they should have about Gays and Lesbians? Any so called religious group that preaches fear or hatred to any other group or tries to mandate how one should live, is not doing the work of God in my opinion. Jesus did not come to earth as a fearing political or religious leader, he was born to a couple no one knew, they where not of money, stature or power. He lived as a humble carpenter, who lead by example, taught and spread kindness and love. He was not a feared man, spurting fire and brimstone.

      This is an unconstitutional and should not be allowed to pass no matter how many mislead votes it received!

      Florida4Marriage claims that legal union of Gays & Lesbians would hurt Florida Marriages and Families, they want to preserve marriage. Well the problem is not Gays and Lesbians, we already can’t get married. The problem is straight couples don’t feel the need to get married. Gays & Lesbians, have nothing to do with the fact that Florida already, out of any other state has the highest divorce rate, according to the data prepared by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics show ,of the states reporting, Florida had the most divorces with 66,712 from January to September 2006.

      Another thing that angers me, is that during PRIDE, 135,000 estimated gay and lesbian and growing every year, generate millions of dollars, for Central Florida’s economy. You’re greedy enough to take our money, but not gracious enough to let us legally take vows with our monogamous partners. This is how Florida repays us, with hate and bigotry!

      You can’t stop us from taking vows or from being committed to one another. A family is a family with or with out a piece of paper, with two women, two men, or a single parent and their children. These groups that says there protecting the “Act of Marriage” or protecting children in the name of Christianity or under any other name. It’s a lie!
      This is why we have a separation of church and state. There taking away peoples rights.

      Like in Arkansas, they made it so only married couples can adopted. You’re only hurting the children. The only kids they let Gays and Lesbians adopt where terminally ill children that no one wanted. Gay and Lesbian couples who adopted these children should be applauded. Do you know how much time, devotion and care, not to mention financial responsibility it takes to care for these kids?

      I think next time, you let someone else think for you on what is right or wrong, think for yourself. Research information before you vote on little know facts and vote responsibly.

  • Shawna Said: November 9th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
    • We can elect an African American President by a landslide, but hate and bigotry are still present, just redirected at another group of people, Gays And Lesbians. You would think that in this day and age, people would be more fair and open minded. You would think that people where smarter and could detect sleazy underhanded hidden discrimination.

      If Gays and Lesbians are already unable to marry in the state of Florida, then why would an amendment to the states constitution be necessary? The “Protection of Marriage Act“, what a joke, the only decline in divorce is because people are not getting married these days.

      I am outraged that Amendment 2 was even on the ballet. The majority of the people who voted where uninformed about the subject and when reading it, it was very misleading. It did not go into details or discus Domestic Partnership and how it would be effected. This impacts gay and straight couple alike who co-habitat instead of getting married. Both Disney and the airlines here in Florida, along with a couple other larger companies offer Domestic Partner Benefits.

      The problem is, all the straight folk, didn’t know it could also effect them, other wise the vote would of been swayed in the opposite direction. I’d bet they’d be in a up roar if Domestic Partner Benefits cease to exist and there are no insurance benefits or free airline tickets to their girlfriend/boyfriends (partners) at least they have the option of being forced into marriage for these benefits again.

      Why are people still letting others control how they think, feel and opinions they should have about Gays and Lesbians? Any so called religious group that preaches fear or hatred to any other group or tries to mandate how one should live, is not doing the work of God in my opinion. Jesus did not come to earth as a fearing political or religious leader, he was born to a couple no one knew, they where not of money, stature or power. He lived as a humble carpenter, who lead by example, taught and spread kindness and love. He was not a feared man, spurting fire and brimstone.

      This is an unconstitutional and should not be allowed to pass no matter how many mislead votes it received!

      Florida4Marriage claims that legal union of Gays & Lesbians would hurt Florida Marriages and Families, they want to preserve marriage. Well the problem is not Gays and Lesbians, we already can’t get married. The problem is straight couples don’t feel the need to get married. Gays & Lesbians, have nothing to do with the fact that Florida already, out of any other state has the highest divorce rate, according to the data prepared by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics show ,of the states reporting, Florida had the most divorces with 66,712 from January to September 2006.

      Another thing that angers me, is that during PRIDE, 135,000 estimated gay and lesbian and growing every year, generate millions of dollars, for Central Florida’s economy. You’re greedy enough to take our money, but not gracious enough to let us legally take vows with our monogamous partners. This is how Florida repays us, with hate and bigotry!

      You can’t stop us from taking vows or from being committed to one another. A family is a family with or with out a piece of paper, with two women, two men, or a single parent and their children. These groups that says there protecting the “Act of Marriage” or protecting children in the name of Christianity or under any other name. It’s a lie!
      This is why we have a separation of church and state. There taking away peoples rights.

      Like in Arkansas, they made it so only married couples can adopted. You’re only hurting the children. The only kids they let Gays and Lesbians adopt where terminally ill children that no one wanted. Gay and Lesbian couples who adopted these children should be applauded. Do you know how much time, devotion and care, not to mention financial responsibility it takes to care for these kids?

      I think next time, you let someone else think for you on what is right or wrong, think for yourself. Research information before you vote on little know facts and vote responsibly.

  • poca Said: November 8th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
    • Thats right! we have to stand together and fight for our rights.

  • itisme"GL" Said: November 8th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
    • … last night and today on FOX; 70% of black and 55% of Latino vote for Prop8.
      Most of Us voted for Obama(the black man” now that is what we get in return. On top of this, we fought not for only GAY rights, by for black and Latino rights to…
      Well, it wont be next time. Mormons can have more then 1 wife, and it is OK with those, who are using faith and church against all rights, but somehow especjaly Mormons are getting financial support from State Goverment, and this is absolutely wrong. They must start paying taxes, and if “ony 1 man and 1 woman” can be married, than Mormons aply to same standards.From now LAW must be same to all, or we GAY people have same rights as Mormons , rights to choose who we love and wish to be married to. From now on we must fight Mormos specjal rights , they are not above anyone.
      Black and Latinos stub us and betray US. Well, we will thing more then twice in next election!!! OUR votes counts, and Obama got millions of our votes from US!!!
      I wish, I vote for McCain, at list He would not bother US and let Us live in peace. Sarah Palin said, I know all veriaty of people and those people are my Friends ,now I know, that She is exeptional lady. So, from now on….”Sarah for President in 2012″If that is what black and Latino People thought, gays and lesbians are stupid,and mayby??? 3-rd class or no class, they are very wrong. We will prevail

  • Joseph Singer Said: November 7th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
    • I’m not sure why you feel you need to be negative about everything.

  • Adventurer Said: November 7th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
    • I don’t see Ellen’s comments. I live in another less progressive state that long ago banned LGBT rights. You will live. Actually, it was not marriage equality anyway. Equal is equal. Equality would have been able to cross state borders and not carry all your marriage information, or being able to file fed income tax, or not having to file extra documents for protection of your rights. So the ongoing fight is good in a way.

  • visitor Said: November 7th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
    • ? (not seeing her comments?)

 
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