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		<title>By: History of Gay Bars</title>
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		<dc:creator>History of Gay Bars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lauren

Sure, James Carville is brilliant . . . so brilliant that even on the one-in-a-million chance that Queen Hillary secures the nomination he&#039;s ensured that no Obama supporter will vote for her in the general election.  That Carville sure is genius, sheer genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lauren</p>
<p>Sure, James Carville is brilliant . . . so brilliant that even on the one-in-a-million chance that Queen Hillary secures the nomination he&#8217;s ensured that no Obama supporter will vote for her in the general election.  That Carville sure is genius, sheer genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” James Carville said.

You got love James Carville, he&#039;s brillant! Via his metaphor, he gave you the clue to why Bill Richardson endorsed Barack Obama.

Richardson left the race with a large campaign debt. I wonder how long it&#039;s going to take for that to debt miraculously gets paid off?

After all Barack Obama&#039;s campaign has given the most money to the super delegates, almost a million bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” James Carville said.</p>
<p>You got love James Carville, he&#8217;s brillant! Via his metaphor, he gave you the clue to why Bill Richardson endorsed Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Richardson left the race with a large campaign debt. I wonder how long it&#8217;s going to take for that to debt miraculously gets paid off?</p>
<p>After all Barack Obama&#8217;s campaign has given the most money to the super delegates, almost a million bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JerryinOhio, Hillary has a long record of pandering to LGBT people as well as offending or disrespecting us: she enthusiastically supported Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t tell and the Defense of Marriage Act until she started running for president and she made offensive comments about the religious and historical significance of marriage in defending her support for DOMA. Hillary has never once met with a transgender organization (despite requests for such a meeting), and she&#039;s only once met with the LGBT community in the state that she represents in the Senate -- and only then after stalling for over a year and-a-half; not exactly &quot;a long track record of partnership with our community.&quot;

Hillary has also never addressed homophobia or transgenderphobia with a non-LGBT audience, unlike Obama, who spoke passionately about the need to combat homophobia in the African American community in the speech that he made -- in a black church -- on Martin Luther King Day.

So I agree with you that we should judge these candidates on how they&#039;ve treated the LGBT community. Hillary has treated the LGBT community shabbily at best (and I&#039;m being charitable in that characterization), and so LGBT voters should most definitely take that into account in deciding who to support for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JerryinOhio, Hillary has a long record of pandering to LGBT people as well as offending or disrespecting us: she enthusiastically supported Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t tell and the Defense of Marriage Act until she started running for president and she made offensive comments about the religious and historical significance of marriage in defending her support for DOMA. Hillary has never once met with a transgender organization (despite requests for such a meeting), and she&#8217;s only once met with the LGBT community in the state that she represents in the Senate &#8212; and only then after stalling for over a year and-a-half; not exactly &#8220;a long track record of partnership with our community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hillary has also never addressed homophobia or transgenderphobia with a non-LGBT audience, unlike Obama, who spoke passionately about the need to combat homophobia in the African American community in the speech that he made &#8212; in a black church &#8212; on Martin Luther King Day.</p>
<p>So I agree with you that we should judge these candidates on how they&#8217;ve treated the LGBT community. Hillary has treated the LGBT community shabbily at best (and I&#8217;m being charitable in that characterization), and so LGBT voters should most definitely take that into account in deciding who to support for president.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryinOhio</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so tiresome to hear yet another ranting about the &quot;Clinton attack machine&quot; as though there isn&#039;t enough sniping among all the campaigns to go around. Of greater importance is how the candidates view and treat our LGBT community, and you can read for yourself below the latest example of how Obama&#039;s campaign has disrespected and abused a representative of the LGBT community -- a reporter from the Gay People&#039;s Chronicle, an Ohio GLBT newspaper in Cleveland, Ohio. This made my blood boil and I bet it will yours too.  All LGBT voters even considering a vote for Obama should read this and think long and hard about whether he is your right choice. I&#039;d say Sen. Clinton is the better choice, given her long track record of partnership with our community and her willingness to work with us without pandering, offending or disrespecting us.

Look at how Obama&#039;s national communications director Robert Gibbs treated the reporter at the Gay People&#039;s Chronicle - an Ohio gay newspaper:
http://www.bilerico.com/2008/03/the_story_behind_the_reporting.php

Excerpt:
&quot;In my 12 years as a reporter, I have never experienced anything quite like Obama&#039;s national communication director Robert Gibbs, either.
I wasn&#039;t biting on the crap he tried to feed me, and he got offended. When I stood there not writing any of it down, Gibbs said to me, &quot;Let me tell you how this works. I talk and you write down what I say. I&#039;ll write down what you say when you answer the question,&quot; I responded, adding that &quot;I&#039;m no campaign&#039;s stenographer.&quot;
Gibbs actually took the pen and pad out of my hands and wrote his own answer! He also asked for the Donnie McClurkin letter to be e-mailed to him, claiming he didn&#039;t remember what it said. It was. He didn&#039;t comment further.
Would Gibbs treat a New York Times reporter this way? How about a Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter?

&quot;Asking the campaign to explain the difference between McClurkin and Farrakhan is a fair question. The Obama campaign, however, treated the question with indignation, claimed that the reporter mischaracterized events, and erroneously claimed that &quot;Senator Obama spoke out against the hateful views of both Donnie McClurkin and Louis Farrakhan. Obama spokespeople pivot to the MLK Day speech as though it settles every debt to the LGBT community, past and future.&quot;


The Obamas are as guilty as any other campaign when it comes to attacking but the only difference is they like to portray themselves as somehow above the fray and better than other politicians (Remember, &quot;The Audacity of Hope&quot;). In one breath the Obamas will decry &quot;old style gutter politics&quot; and then in the next breath go on to excoriate anyone who dares disagree with them. It&#039;s hypocritical and offensive.

We worked hard to be sure Obama didn&#039;t win Ohio, and I encourage other LGBT brothers and sisters to work hard in other states to expose the hypocrisy of the Obamas. We&#039;ll be there to help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so tiresome to hear yet another ranting about the &#8220;Clinton attack machine&#8221; as though there isn&#8217;t enough sniping among all the campaigns to go around. Of greater importance is how the candidates view and treat our LGBT community, and you can read for yourself below the latest example of how Obama&#8217;s campaign has disrespected and abused a representative of the LGBT community &#8212; a reporter from the Gay People&#8217;s Chronicle, an Ohio GLBT newspaper in Cleveland, Ohio. This made my blood boil and I bet it will yours too.  All LGBT voters even considering a vote for Obama should read this and think long and hard about whether he is your right choice. I&#8217;d say Sen. Clinton is the better choice, given her long track record of partnership with our community and her willingness to work with us without pandering, offending or disrespecting us.</p>
<p>Look at how Obama&#8217;s national communications director Robert Gibbs treated the reporter at the Gay People&#8217;s Chronicle &#8211; an Ohio gay newspaper:<br />
<a href="http://www.bilerico.com/2008/03/the_story_behind_the_reporting.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.bilerico.com/2008/03/the_story_behind_the_reporting.php</a></p>
<p>Excerpt:<br />
&#8220;In my 12 years as a reporter, I have never experienced anything quite like Obama&#8217;s national communication director Robert Gibbs, either.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t biting on the crap he tried to feed me, and he got offended. When I stood there not writing any of it down, Gibbs said to me, &#8220;Let me tell you how this works. I talk and you write down what I say. I&#8217;ll write down what you say when you answer the question,&#8221; I responded, adding that &#8220;I&#8217;m no campaign&#8217;s stenographer.&#8221;<br />
Gibbs actually took the pen and pad out of my hands and wrote his own answer! He also asked for the Donnie McClurkin letter to be e-mailed to him, claiming he didn&#8217;t remember what it said. It was. He didn&#8217;t comment further.<br />
Would Gibbs treat a New York Times reporter this way? How about a Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter?</p>
<p>&#8220;Asking the campaign to explain the difference between McClurkin and Farrakhan is a fair question. The Obama campaign, however, treated the question with indignation, claimed that the reporter mischaracterized events, and erroneously claimed that &#8220;Senator Obama spoke out against the hateful views of both Donnie McClurkin and Louis Farrakhan. Obama spokespeople pivot to the MLK Day speech as though it settles every debt to the LGBT community, past and future.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Obamas are as guilty as any other campaign when it comes to attacking but the only difference is they like to portray themselves as somehow above the fray and better than other politicians (Remember, &#8220;The Audacity of Hope&#8221;). In one breath the Obamas will decry &#8220;old style gutter politics&#8221; and then in the next breath go on to excoriate anyone who dares disagree with them. It&#8217;s hypocritical and offensive.</p>
<p>We worked hard to be sure Obama didn&#8217;t win Ohio, and I encourage other LGBT brothers and sisters to work hard in other states to expose the hypocrisy of the Obamas. We&#8217;ll be there to help!</p>
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		<title>By: pecola</title>
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		<dc:creator>pecola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To sit here and pretend that I like Bill Richardson would be fairly disingenuous--it&#039;s rare that you meet someone *that* interested in getting back to Washington. That said...

@ Jose and Maria: For those who call this an affront to the Hispanic community, who call him a snitch and a backstabber...I&#039;d ask: where the hell were you when this man was running for President?

The reality is that Richardson had very little in the way of institutional support from the Latino community during his run (sans, perhaps, Jimmy Smits). His decision to drop out of the presidential race before Nevada is proof positive of that fact.

Why should Bill Richardson show loyalty to a group that, for the most part, showed absolutely no loyalty to him?

That&#039;s crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sit here and pretend that I like Bill Richardson would be fairly disingenuous&#8211;it&#8217;s rare that you meet someone *that* interested in getting back to Washington. That said&#8230;</p>
<p>@ Jose and Maria: For those who call this an affront to the Hispanic community, who call him a snitch and a backstabber&#8230;I&#8217;d ask: where the hell were you when this man was running for President?</p>
<p>The reality is that Richardson had very little in the way of institutional support from the Latino community during his run (sans, perhaps, Jimmy Smits). His decision to drop out of the presidential race before Nevada is proof positive of that fact.</p>
<p>Why should Bill Richardson show loyalty to a group that, for the most part, showed absolutely no loyalty to him?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria, Hillary&#039;s whole pitch to the superdelegates is precisely that they should ignore the will of the people in the districts and states that many of them represent, so it strikes me as being the height of hypocrisy for the Clintonites to attack Bill Richardson for following Hillary&#039;s injunction and voting as a superdelegate for the person he thinks would make the best president (viz., Obama).

As for &#039;the will of Hispanics,&#039; if your argument is that politicians and elected officials have an obligation to support the candidate who has won the overwhelming majority of votes from the community from which they come, by that logic, the fact that Obama has won close to 90% of the African American vote obligates all black elected officials and superdelegates to support Obama for president; isn&#039;t that the logical conclusion of your argument...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria, Hillary&#8217;s whole pitch to the superdelegates is precisely that they should ignore the will of the people in the districts and states that many of them represent, so it strikes me as being the height of hypocrisy for the Clintonites to attack Bill Richardson for following Hillary&#8217;s injunction and voting as a superdelegate for the person he thinks would make the best president (viz., Obama).</p>
<p>As for &#8216;the will of Hispanics,&#8217; if your argument is that politicians and elected officials have an obligation to support the candidate who has won the overwhelming majority of votes from the community from which they come, by that logic, the fact that Obama has won close to 90% of the African American vote obligates all black elected officials and superdelegates to support Obama for president; isn&#8217;t that the logical conclusion of your argument&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Park</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/richardson-calls-the-clintons-on-their-gutter-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-5750</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose, Bill Richardson showed tremendous courage in being willing to stand up to the Clinton attack machine and vote his conscience; how does that make him a &#039;snitch&#039; or a &#039;back-stabber&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose, Bill Richardson showed tremendous courage in being willing to stand up to the Clinton attack machine and vote his conscience; how does that make him a &#8217;snitch&#8217; or a &#8216;back-stabber&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon, These allegations have all been debunked; they are nothing but a string of guilt-by-association charges with no evidentiary support. Ayers may have been with the Weather Underground decades ago, but he has had no association with terrorism since then, so to try to connect Obama to terrorism through Ayers is simply absurd. And the notion that Khalidi is a terrorist simply because he supports the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people is nothing but prejudice against the Palestinians; trying to link Obama to terrorism by his association with a respected Arab Muslim scholar is part and parcel of the attempts to label him a Muslim even though he is not and simply demonstrates that Islamophobia is part of the bias against Obama. No legitimate news organization has ever linked Obama to terrorism of any kind, and these allegations are just the latest in the smear campaign against Obama and show how low the Clintons will sink in trying to discredit him. Gutter politics, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon, These allegations have all been debunked; they are nothing but a string of guilt-by-association charges with no evidentiary support. Ayers may have been with the Weather Underground decades ago, but he has had no association with terrorism since then, so to try to connect Obama to terrorism through Ayers is simply absurd. And the notion that Khalidi is a terrorist simply because he supports the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people is nothing but prejudice against the Palestinians; trying to link Obama to terrorism by his association with a respected Arab Muslim scholar is part and parcel of the attempts to label him a Muslim even though he is not and simply demonstrates that Islamophobia is part of the bias against Obama. No legitimate news organization has ever linked Obama to terrorism of any kind, and these allegations are just the latest in the smear campaign against Obama and show how low the Clintons will sink in trying to discredit him. Gutter politics, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gutter Politics:
Obama promised a new style of politics.  Yet, since January, he has been tossing one insult or accusation after another at Bill Clinton.  Obama has suggested Clinton achieved nothing of importance during his tenure and that the Republicans were the party of ideas.  Obama gave tacit approval to let his surrogates accuse Bill Clinton of racism.  And now Obama stands by silently while a top military adviser accuses the former President of acting like Josephy McCarthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gutter Politics:<br />
Obama promised a new style of politics.  Yet, since January, he has been tossing one insult or accusation after another at Bill Clinton.  Obama has suggested Clinton achieved nothing of importance during his tenure and that the Republicans were the party of ideas.  Obama gave tacit approval to let his surrogates accuse Bill Clinton of racism.  And now Obama stands by silently while a top military adviser accuses the former President of acting like Josephy McCarthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the Obama campaign did not really consider how Latino Democrats and American voters as a whole will view the endorsement of Bill Richardson.

The lowest form of life in almost any segment of American society is a snitch or a back stabber.

Bill Richardson&#039;s actions proved that he can be on your side one day and on the other side the next. &quot;Typical&quot; politican.

Endorsement of Senator Clinton would have proven Bill Richardson to have at least have a semblance of loyalty. Besides, what good is his endorsement now?

Endorsement of Barak Obama shows that Bill Richardson will turn on anyone if he thinks it will benefit Bill Richardson.

More change we can believe in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Obama campaign did not really consider how Latino Democrats and American voters as a whole will view the endorsement of Bill Richardson.</p>
<p>The lowest form of life in almost any segment of American society is a snitch or a back stabber.</p>
<p>Bill Richardson&#8217;s actions proved that he can be on your side one day and on the other side the next. &#8220;Typical&#8221; politican.</p>
<p>Endorsement of Senator Clinton would have proven Bill Richardson to have at least have a semblance of loyalty. Besides, what good is his endorsement now?</p>
<p>Endorsement of Barak Obama shows that Bill Richardson will turn on anyone if he thinks it will benefit Bill Richardson.</p>
<p>More change we can believe in&#8230;</p>
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