Comments on: Rev. Wright Goes Bye-Bye http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Jennifer Vanasco http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3063 Jennifer Vanasco Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:05:27 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3063 @Steve - I'm not sure why you think James is clueless about race. Because he disagrees with you? But even Obama said today that not all the opinons Wright holds are good ones (and it is not completely clear from his speech, but it seems like Obama also agrees with James that Ferraro's remarks were *not* racist). I suspect that's true of all of us. We have some well-informed opinions and some crazy ones. To suggest that James is clueless about the history of white racism because he disagrees with some of the more well-publicized quotes of Rev. Wright is grounded in nothing. @Steve – I’m not sure why you think James is clueless about race. Because he disagrees with you? But even Obama said today that not all the opinons Wright holds are good ones (and it is not completely clear from his speech, but it seems like Obama also agrees with James that Ferraro’s remarks were *not* racist).

I suspect that’s true of all of us. We have some well-informed opinions and some crazy ones. To suggest that James is clueless about the history of white racism because he disagrees with some of the more well-publicized quotes of Rev. Wright is grounded in nothing.

]]> By: pecola http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3062 pecola Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:06:55 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3062 Wright goes bye-bye? Good. I mean, what do we need with a black advocate in the pulpit who urges more women into the clergy and preaches that gays should have the right to marry (as they do in the UCC)? Who needs another black minister as our ally when we have so many to choose from... Wait. Hang on. Damn. Rev. Wright come back! Steve, James is just having his Sister Souljah moment. It's okay, James, we get it. Wright goes bye-bye?

Good.

I mean, what do we need with a black advocate in the pulpit who urges more women into the clergy and preaches that gays should have the right to marry (as they do in the UCC)? Who needs another black minister as our ally when we have so many to choose from…

Wait.

Hang on.

Damn.

Rev. Wright come back!

Steve, James is just having his Sister Souljah moment. It’s okay, James, we get it.

]]> By: The Boys in the Band http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3061 The Boys in the Band Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:17:07 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3061 I am with Steve: there is no condition under which I will vote for Hillary "Republican" Clinton in the fall. Her "kitchen sink" strategy against Barack Obama not only demonstrated that she is willing to sacrifice the Democratic Party to serve her own political ambitions but her continued race-baiting -- including comments by Bill "perjurer-in-chief" Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro -- confirmed to me that she is rotten to the core. Doug Ireland over at Gay City News has a great opinion piece on why he too will not be supporting HRC and has chosen Barack Obama. The cynical Clinton strategy of triangulation finally degenerated into base racism. Bill & Hill both should be booted from the Democratic Party, and good riddance to them. I am with Steve: there is no condition under which I will vote for Hillary “Republican” Clinton in the fall. Her “kitchen sink” strategy against Barack Obama not only demonstrated that she is willing to sacrifice the Democratic Party to serve her own political ambitions but her continued race-baiting — including comments by Bill “perjurer-in-chief” Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro — confirmed to me that she is rotten to the core. Doug Ireland over at Gay City News has a great opinion piece on why he too will not be supporting HRC and has chosen Barack Obama. The cynical Clinton strategy of triangulation finally degenerated into base racism. Bill & Hill both should be booted from the Democratic Party, and good riddance to them.

]]> By: Steve http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3060 Steve Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:23:27 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3060 What I don't understand, BMD, is why you think the fact that a blogger has an opinion somehow means that opinion is immune from criticism. It's called public debate. Withers deserves to be criticized when he dismisses remarks by Geraldine Ferraro that obviously were racist while jumping all over remarks by Rev. Wright that, though intense, were nothing unusual for a zealous advocate for a subordinated group. I mean, has no gay leader ever ranted about straight privilege? Gimme a break! As for the fall, BMD, you express a fine sentiment in urging reconciliation behind whichever candidate wins the nomination. That was exactly my mindset until about three weeks ago, when the Clinton campaign descended even further into race-baiting and swiftboating. I won't support her in the fall. Period. What I don’t understand, BMD, is why you think the fact that a blogger has an opinion somehow means that opinion is immune from criticism. It’s called public debate.

Withers deserves to be criticized when he dismisses remarks by Geraldine Ferraro that obviously were racist while jumping all over remarks by Rev. Wright that, though intense, were nothing unusual for a zealous advocate for a subordinated group. I mean, has no gay leader ever ranted about straight privilege? Gimme a break!

As for the fall, BMD, you express a fine sentiment in urging reconciliation behind whichever candidate wins the nomination. That was exactly my mindset until about three weeks ago, when the Clinton campaign descended even further into race-baiting and swiftboating. I won’t support her in the fall. Period.

]]> By: The Boys In The Band http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3059 The Boys In The Band Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:37:27 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3059 Rev. Wright damns America for its sins -- not the least of which include the genocide of Native Americans, slavery of blacks, disenfranchisement of women, persecution of gays -- and he's accused of being anti-American? Maybe it's not the sinner named America he's condemning but just its multitude of sins. You know, love the sinner, hate the sin. Of course, that kind of talk got Jesus Christ crucified, too. Keep giving them all hell, Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright damns America for its sins — not the least of which include the genocide of Native Americans, slavery of blacks, disenfranchisement of women, persecution of gays — and he’s accused of being anti-American? Maybe it’s not the sinner named America he’s condemning but just its multitude of sins. You know, love the sinner, hate the sin. Of course, that kind of talk got Jesus Christ crucified, too. Keep giving them all hell, Rev. Wright.

]]> By: BMD http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3058 BMD Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:12:00 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3058 What I don't understand is why people can't get over the fact that bloggers here have opinions. Was it not a few weeks ago that Withers was being crucified for being bias towards Obama? What the gay community needs to do is stop bashing either candidate and be prepared to stand behind whichever Democrat in November. If you didn't notice, not one of the Republican candidates showed up for LOGO's presidential forum. What I don’t understand is why people can’t get over the fact that bloggers here have opinions. Was it not a few weeks ago that Withers was being crucified for being bias towards Obama?

What the gay community needs to do is stop bashing either candidate and be prepared to stand behind whichever Democrat in November. If you didn’t notice, not one of the Republican candidates showed up for LOGO’s presidential forum.

]]> By: Steve http://www.365gay.com/blog/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/comment-page-1/#comment-3057 Steve Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:10:45 +0000 http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2008/03/17/rev-wright-goes-bye-bye/#comment-3057 As usual, James Withers prostitutes himself for Hillary Clinton. Amazing how Withers can declare a few days ago that Geraldine Ferraro said nothing racist and today condemn as racist the Wright comments, all of which were bitter complaints about the very real history of white racism in the U.S. How about this: Withers just agrees to shut up about anything related to race, since he's so utterly clueless? As usual, James Withers prostitutes himself for Hillary Clinton.

Amazing how Withers can declare a few days ago that Geraldine Ferraro said nothing racist and today condemn as racist the Wright comments, all of which were bitter complaints about the very real history of white racism in the U.S.

How about this: Withers just agrees to shut up about anything related to race, since he’s so utterly clueless?

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