Comments on: Lowenstein: Our leaders are evolving, and we should welcome the change

By: Debra

Debra — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:22:16 +0000

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/30/cuba-launches-anti-homoph_n_180833.html

Communist Cuba with it’s Catholic domination in the country is taking huge strides in diversity awareness AND it’s all being led by a Castro…the President’s daughter!! If they can do that there, we can do anything here!

By: TigerTzu

TigerTzu — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:57:21 +0000

“We know that we can’t draw direct comparisons between the civil rights movement and our current movement for equality,…”

That’s funny. Coretta Scott King and Julian Bond did exactly that. But what do they know? They were/are only black civil rights leaders and outspoken advocates for ALL human rights, including gays. If they can see the similarities, why is it so difficult for others to do so? Perhaps their grasp of the concept of civil rights is lacking.

By: TigerTzu

TigerTzu — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:51:50 +0000

Sarrellec Said: “There are two functions necessary for change. The radicals AND the negotiators.”

Excellent post and I couldn’t agree more.

By: Sarrellec

Sarrellec — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:34:51 +0000

Well, you see, negros have this fantasy that they were the only group of people ever put into slavery, so, therefore, absolutely no one else can ever know the pain of that.
Except, slavery is removed from them by about, what is it, four generations now? Five?
Homosexuals are still being legally murdered in a lot of countries in the world…those same countries, by the way, who seem to sport a LOT of dark skin.
How many weeks ago was it a guy got 5 years for murdering a gay man?
How many more weeks will it be before somebody else gets a slap on the wrist for outright murder of a gay person?
HELLO! Black President of the United States!
it’s about time to stop beating the “but, we is all so put upon by whitey” drum and start taking responsibility for the ACTIONS which put off realtors, employers and little old ladies that cross the street when they see you coming.
I like what one poster wrote: We don’t kill each other. We rebuild houses.
Maybe THAT is why there can be no comparison?
Gay men are treated as second class citizens WITHOUT a history of violent anti-social behavior?
Yeah…maybe that’s it.

By: Let'sFaceIt

Let'sFaceIt — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:20:10 +0000

I agree with the guy that there’s no correlation. Gays don’t murder each other at rates as high as African-Americans do. And we restore houses.

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:27:43 +0000

“We know that we can’t draw direct comparisons between the civil rights movement and our current movement for equality.” Um… please speak for yourself, because OTHERS like ME see a DIRECT link between the civil rights movement and our current struggle for equal rights thankyou very much!

By: JJ

JJ — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:29:35 +0000

This IS about civil rights, still, and it’s been going since forever. Talk is still cheap, and we welcome the change but are still angry at damage done to kids and families of gay people, let alone gay people themselves.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:10:57 +0000

“…we can’t draw direct comparisons between the civil rights movement and our current movement for equality,…”

1. African-Americans were forbidden by law from marrying individuals of other races; LGBT individuals are forbidden by law from marrying each other.
2. African-Americans suffered discrimination in jobs and housing; LGBT people suffur discrimination in jobs and housing.
3. African-Americans are judged by the colour of their skin and cultural identifying mannerisms; LGBT individuals are judged by their sexuality and cultural identifying mannerisms
4. African-Americans were historically portrayed inaccurately and disrespectfully in the media; LGBT characters appeared on ‘Will and Grace’ enough said
5. African-Americans were written into law as inferior persons, including the shameful 3/5 of a human legal decision; LGBT people are written into law as inferior persons incapable of performing a universal legal contract, i.e. marriage.

Guess what? I just did compare the two — how about that?

By: michelle N

michelle N — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:05:45 +0000

I didn’t choose my DNA, which by default means I didn’t choose my race, sex, or orientation.

Civil Rights issues isn’t complicated, anything less than “all men are created equal” is discrimination.

By: Q.T.

Q.T. — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:32:19 +0000

The writer obviously overlooks the direct comparison of DISCRIMINATION. The writer also overlooks the direct comparisons of INDIVIDUAL INJUSTICE- i.e. the arbitrary nature of denying persons valuable life-opportunities, i.e. employment, housing, benefits and marriage.
SYSTEMATIC INJUSTICE from the repeated and widespread acts of individual injustice.